Church of globull warming and drought fully spiraling down the toilet
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2022 Jan 3, 4:49pm 119,627 views 974 comments
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Remember when this winter started with good rains in.the west all these articles by climate "scientists" and globahomo agitprop "news" corporations about how this will be a dry winter for the drought stricken west despite initial rains. Fuck you moron sell-outs, this will go down as one of the wettest winters in recent history in the west. Reservoirs should be full to the brim but I'm sure politicians made sure there is enough drainage and poor planning so they can keep promoting state of emergencies and fuck over their constituents.
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goofus
2025 Jan 7, 11:11am
The_Deplorable says
Couple things, water vapor absorbance across the far IR spectrum swamps the CO2 windows (first image). But CO2 absorbance IS relevant to the range of earth-emitting far IR, just far less than water vapor. Earth’s far IR emission range is a rounded, Gaussian-type plot (second image), emitting up to and beyond 15 um, the beginning of CO2’s main absorption range. IR at 15 um is at lower intensity than the 10 um peak, but still present.
Couple things, water vapor absorbance across the far IR spectrum swamps the CO2 windows (first image). But CO2 absorbance IS relevant to the range of earth-emitting far IR, just far less than water vapor. Earth’s far IR emission range is a rounded, Gaussian-type plot (second image), emitting up to and beyond 15 um, the beginning of CO2’s main absorption range. IR at 15 um is at lower intensity than the 10 um peak, but still present.
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The_Deplorable
2025 Jan 7, 2:16pm
goofus says
No. Earth is not emitting radiation in the far IR range which is -80°F and lower! Given
that the Earth Temperature is about 59°F then Earth is radiating unimpeded into space
at 10 microns.
PROOF: During the Paleozoic, Earth experienced an Ice Age for 40 million years at a
CO2 level of 4,200 ppm. And that high amount of CO2 did not prevent the Ice Age from
happening. Therefore CO2 is not warming anything.
"CO2 absorbance IS relevant to the range of earth-emitting far IR..."
No. Earth is not emitting radiation in the far IR range which is -80°F and lower! Given
that the Earth Temperature is about 59°F then Earth is radiating unimpeded into space
at 10 microns.
PROOF: During the Paleozoic, Earth experienced an Ice Age for 40 million years at a
CO2 level of 4,200 ppm. And that high amount of CO2 did not prevent the Ice Age from
happening. Therefore CO2 is not warming anything.
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goofus
2025 Jan 7, 2:55pm
The_Deplorable says
Look at the plot above. While earth-emitted IR peaks at 10 um for 303K (30C), it has tails on both sides. Earth radiates at a variety of far IR wavelengths depending on latitude, albedo, etc. 59F may be the planetary average but a whole range of wavelengths (and radiating temps) are covered to reach that average. IR at 15 um is not -80F. Can calculate at home; driving now.
I’m sure not wedded to the idea of CO2 as driver for climate change. Geologic record is enough to realize the fallacy. That and realizing Malenkovich cycles explain the last million years of ice age cycles far better than greenhouse gases. But “our side” should take more care with the claims.
goofus says
"CO2 absorbance IS relevant to the range of earth-emitting far IR..."
No. Earth is not emitting radiation in the far IR range which is -80°F and lower! Given
that the Earth Temperature is about 59°F then Earth is radiating unimpeded into space
at 10 microns.
Look at the plot above. While earth-emitted IR peaks at 10 um for 303K (30C), it has tails on both sides. Earth radiates at a variety of far IR wavelengths depending on latitude, albedo, etc. 59F may be the planetary average but a whole range of wavelengths (and radiating temps) are covered to reach that average. IR at 15 um is not -80F. Can calculate at home; driving now.
I’m sure not wedded to the idea of CO2 as driver for climate change. Geologic record is enough to realize the fallacy. That and realizing Malenkovich cycles explain the last million years of ice age cycles far better than greenhouse gases. But “our side” should take more care with the claims.
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goofus
2025 Jan 7, 9:55pm
The_Deplorable says
You’re right, whoops. Plugging 15 um in for wavelength gives 193K or -80C. Temp drops quickly with this equation..
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goofus says
"CO2 absorbance IS relevant to the range of earth-emitting far IR..."
No. Earth is not emitting radiation in the far IR range which is -80°F and lower!
You’re right, whoops. Plugging 15 um in for wavelength gives 193K or -80C. Temp drops quickly with this equation..
Physics.stackexchange.com
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