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How can you be so sure the vax has 0 benefit?

NuttBoxer says

simpler, more logical explanation for why there has been such a huge push to inject people with shots that have no medical benefit whatsoever?

there may be no medical benefit, or even there may be negative medical "benefits", but there are benefits to Pfizer and Blackrock coffers

I'm pretty sure the vaxx has negative net benefits. That is, it probably does reduce symptoms for the alpha version, because it primes the immune system to recognize that particular spike protein. On the other hand, it is clearly causing a wave of blood clots, myocarditis, and other fatal problems, as is coming out in the insurance statistics along with VAERS and much anecdotal evidence.

I believe the motive was primarily money. Fauci has been experimenting with gain-of-function research for a long time, deliberately creating viruses so that he can then sell vaccines against them for the profit of Pfizer etc, his benefactors. He just did it once again on a far larger scale.

Anyone who has read a decent mystery novel will see the means, motive, and opportunity were all there. It's obvious in retrospect.

I don't believe that tiny circuits could circulate in your blood without causing blood clots, but then, hey, there have been an awful lot of blood clots lately.

WineHorror1 says

How can you be so sure the vax has 0 benefit?

I've done the research, have you?

Bd6r says

there may be no medical benefit, or even there may be negative medical "benefits", but there are benefits to Pfizer and Blackrock coffers

I don't understand why this is constantly focused on like these companies weren't already making a shit-ton of money selling us poison. Especially when you compare it to the mountain of money that was stolen via lockdowns. Also tired of hearing about Blackrock as the end-all-be-all of economic conspiracy. You can see every fucking stock holder for Blackrock, and the majority holder is Vanguard. Who owns Vanguard, you can't see that.

Now if you want to make a case that they needed to hide the impending economic disaster(overnight repo rates skyrocketing November 2019), and the siphoning off of US assets since the 90's, that's a viable alternative. But forced injection was always going to meet massive resistance. If you want to maintain control, it's a risky move, and simple financial gain, something they've been doing for hundreds of years, doesn't justify the risk. There is something in the shots they NEED us to take.

Patrick says

That is, it probably does reduce symptoms for the alpha version, because it primes the immune system to recognize that particular spike protein.

That's not the vector of attack the virus uses. My sister was sick for the same amount of time I was(J & J). A co-worker today just told us he had Covid for the second time in two years(again took the shots). I've just had it once in the same time span. There are absolutely zero benefits. But don't listen to me, do your own research.

Patrick says

I don't believe that tiny circuits could circulate in your blood without causing blood clots, but then, hey, there have been an awful lot of blood clots lately.

Look up videos on graphene oxide reacting to radio-waves. They remain dormant until they receive a signal, then form these spidery strands. Mobility without rigidity. This stuff wasn't invented in 2019, the patents have been out for at least 10 years. There are a number of talks and government papers you can watch/read if you're interested.

Let me just clarify something that seems to get missed alot with these people. They don't give a shit about money. It's a means to an end. Power is always their objective. They want to kill most of us, enslave the rest by creating an inferior race of creatures, and continue to prey on our children for their depraved sexual appetites and satanic rituals.

We've come too far to continue dancing around, and sugar-coating what's happening. It's time to wake the fuck up. Your children's futures depend on it.

You wanna keep straddling the fence and trying to appear "reasonable"? May as well go out and get your injection, because you will someday, don't give a shit what you say now. Get busy living, or get busy dying, your choice.

NuttBoxer says

There is something in the shots they NEED us to take.

I don't agree with that. I know enough chemistry and biochemistry and i can't just see this. I do agree that money earned is probably just a byproduct of what they are doing. Perhaps conditioning population to obey stupid and/or harmful orders is what they are after. In that case, it does not matter what is injected, incl saline water which apparently a lot of injectees get.

Just don't get vaccinated. Mostly finished with the Rogan podcast with Malone. He describes exactly what my wife is dealing with. Fortunately we had no future plans for children at this stage in life. My concern is now cancer or who knows what. It has severely influence her hormones and she's admitted as much.

I think the fallout from vaccine is going to come in a big way in the spring and they know it. They keep moving mandates back in a lot of places to get the vaccine. Why? Isn't this a crisis?

Either way I'll give up my lifestyle to not get it. I know where I live there will be no enforcement of any vaccine mandate. I'll live in my little town/bubble and be perfectly happy. Dumping travel would suck, but I'm not putting this shit in my body.

NuttBoxer says

There is something in the shots they NEED us to take.

The secret ingredient is subservience. They need us to take the shots because they need us to worship and follow their dictates without question or reason of our own.

Bd6r says

I don't agree with that. I know enough chemistry and biochemistry and i can't just see this.

Would like to know which article(s) you debunked, and why, as I don't have your background. This is just one of many sources I've seen this information from.

WookieMan says

My concern is now cancer or who knows what. It has severely influence her hormones and she's admitted as much.

If she's open to treatment, there is a naturopath who gives very specific recommendations. Search Planet Lockdown, she's the only interview in the list that talks about treating post covid-injected people.

PeopleUnited says

The secret ingredient is subservience. They need us to take the shots because they need us to worship and follow their dictates without question or reason of our own.

I like this angle, but there are less invasive ways to get it, and they have been using them for decades. Think about how many ways you are enslaved in their system right now, apart from scamdemic. Can you travel freely without being required to show papers? Do you have complete ownership, meaning you don't have to disclose to anyone, your finances, medical history, self-defense methods, residence, internet and phone activity? Can you keep 100% of your income? Remember, privacy = freedom, and unless you work very hard, you have none.

NuttBoxer says

Would like to know which article(s) you debunked, and why, as I don't have your background. This is just one of many sources I've seen this information from.

@NuttBoxer

I did not see any articles quoted in that video which directly relate to what he was talking about.

One error that glaringly jumps out is that he says that graphene oxides are exfoliated into graphene by myeloperoxidase. I believe this enzyme would turn graphene into graphene oxide since it releases oxidizing agents. Another one is that vaccines are very, very unlikely to contain any graphene derivatives at all. We had a discussion about this a while ago, and Malone himself has pointed that out in his now defunct twatter acount.

There is an interesting article: https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1542866/covid-microchip-developer-rollout-vaccine-passport?source=patrick.net

This MIGHT be another reason. They take away all your life until you are microchipped, and what better "benign" reason to microchip you than this!

A Swedish start-up tech company has invented a scannable microchip that is implanted in people’s arms and can display your COVID-19 vaccination status. This digital implant is designed to be embedded into people's arms so your vaccine passport pops up when scanned.

While new in humans, this kind of technology is very common for household pets, where most of them are embedded with a microchip that reveals the animal’s medical history when scanned.

Costing 100 euros for a microchip, the device works by scanning the spot on the arm with a mobile phone.

When scanned, a PDF will appear that shows all the details of the person’s EU Digital Covid Certificate, which indicates their vaccination status and may also show whether the person has recently been tested positive for Covid.

Edit: my background is chemistry, and I can understand a fair amount of biochemistry as well.

Bd6r says

We had a discussion about this a while ago, and Malone himself has pointed that out in his now defunct twatter acount.

Would love to see exactly what he said if you can find the tweet. I wasn't able to find it in a search. What about the labs in Spain and Japan? For this video, the guy has a ton of reference material on his site(logo at the end of video).

If you create/push a pandemic, that's your justification for the "health" passport/human barcode you referenced. They could just encourage people to get the shots, no need for mandates to set the precedent for needing a tracking device. I don't see the logic behind the big push for shots unless there is physically something in the shot. Not just to kill us, death has been achieved quite successfully by governments using a number of methods for centuries, most notably war. Something they want in our bodies that they have no other way of getting in there. Also, why is it even the workers in the production facilities don't have the full list of ingredients?

There is something in these shots. What's the simplest explanation for clots, crazy mandates, and secret ingredients? Have you looked into any of the longer documents/videos on bio-digital convergence?

NuttBoxer says

Not just to kill us, death has been achieved quite successfully by governments using a number of methods for centuries, most notably war.

The most effective way to kill a population is through starvation. The other is disease, although I don't think that's been historically done by governments much.

NuttBoxer says

There is something in these shots. What's the simplest explanation for clots, crazy mandates, and secret ingredients?

One thing I've noticed, the government for some reason LOVES to create controversy, and they do it constantly. This whole thing, it might just be to fuck with us. Seriously.

This whole BS pandemic might be a build up to something, but I don't think it's the event itself.

I’m new here, first post. My 2 cents.

Why the Plandemic? Perhaps multiple reasons that vary for different elites. Population control (Gates/Fauci), anarchy (Soros), steps toward totalitarianism, huge shift of wealth from middle class to elites, fear, submission, experimentation on millions, perhaps a tracking device in the vax, but who are the real elite leaders? WEF and Klaus Schwab represents them IMO, central bank owners, Rothchilds, Rockefellers, JP Morgan family, etc.

What is their end game? Total control… blockchain/bitcoin is a bit of a threat, so ruining it and having their own version controlled by them.

WEF ran a pandemic simulation Oct ’19 in NY months before the Plandemic.

Is a global attack on banks/markets with the greatest economic collapse in history next?

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/exclusive-imf-10-countries-simulate-cyber-attack-on-global-financial-system?source=patrick.net

Marshall law globally after the collapse, no elections, riots, violence, famine, then they will promise one world digital blockchain currency to “protect us” from future attacks (even though they orchestrated the attack) – will make the last 2 years look like a party.

NuttBoxer says

Would love to see exactly what he said if you can find the tweet. I wasn't able to find it in a search. What about the labs in Spain and Japan? For this video, the guy has a ton of reference material on his site(logo at the end of video)

I dont see how these references he has are relevant to his theories, and I question anyone who makes childish mistakes as he made. I have read through the Spanish paper, and I think we had a discussion about it a while ago. If I recall correctly, it was highly problematic as well. In general, nano crap is way oversold and similar to !CLIMATE CHANGE! stuff, peddled to generate grant money. The highest selling nano product is...drumroll...titanium dioxide paint, marketed since 1920's.
About Malone, his twatter is dead but what he said in essence was that people are confusing lipid aggregates with graphene. A quote from that discussion is preserved here:
https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/critique-this-article-graphene-oxide-in-covid-injections/?source=patrick.net

Youngblood85 says

Perhaps multiple reasons that vary for different elites

Possible, since the elites are not homogeneous. Those in ChYna will have different goals from ones here or in Russia, and even here we may have competing factions within elite.

Youngblood85 says

I’m new here, first post. My 2 cents.

Wecome @Youngblood85

NuttBoxer says

I like this angle, but there are less invasive ways to get it, and they have been using them for decades.

Oh definitely, I agree they have been at this for decades. Basically at least 100 years. But the fact this is more invasive is exactly they point. They don’t just want your mind, they want your body and they work for the devil who wants your soul.

Mind rape is one thing, now they want to literally penetrate you.

Bd6r says

A quote from that discussion is preserved here:

I followed the link to Twitter and looking at John B.'s tweets I finally see this:


Doesn't seem to debunk what I'm saying. And I'm still looking for a better answer to these issues:

* Ingredients of shot are a secret.
* HUGE push to force inject as many as possible, despite risking global uprising, waking more people up, possibly leading to realization of their greatest fear(us united against them).
* Blood clots
* Synchronization with 5g rollout, a wavelength capable of passing through the human body, allowing for sending and receiving data.
* Well documented push towards bio-digital convergence, for which this scenario would be an ideal first step.

Simplest explanation still seems like nano-particles.

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/09/02/american-scientists-confirm-toxic-graphene-oxide-and-more-in-covid-injections/?source=patrick.net

NuttBoxer says

Doesn't seem to debunk what I'm saying.

Malone says:

Excellent thread.
Looks like we have aggregates forming. https://t.co/TDkjaXddw1?source=patrick.net

— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) October 11, 2021

He implies lipid aggregates.

NuttBoxer says

Doesn't seem to debunk what I'm saying.

Malone says:

Excellent thread.
Looks like we have aggregates forming. https://t.co/TDkjaXddw1?source=patrick.net

— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) October 11, 2021

He implies lipid aggregates.

So Malone thinks lipids, but John B. does not have a conclusion. Has Malone proposed a theory that addresses the questions I have? Kind of doubt he publicly has. What's your theory for why I should discount my research, other than some inconsistencies with the Spain analysis(not the only place that's put this theory out). I'd love to hear an alternative that makes more sense.

What questions do you have, other than why the hell they try to force us to inject this shit (which has many possible answers at this point)?

I can (usually) discount sources that make sophomoric mistakes like those in OP video. If there is an unusual explanation of something, there is a need of a highly competent analysis. I also don't see why "they" would need to inject graphene or graphene oxide into general population. I am not also sure how long and in what form graphene would survive in human body. There are cases where so-called "conspiracy theories" make perfect sense and are clearly conspiracy facts, and then there are cases when it is difficult to explain them, which sometimes makes me think that they are planted by three-letter agencies to discredit conspiracy facts. I suspect this may be the case.

richwicks says

One thing I've noticed, the government for some reason LOVES to create controversy, and they do it constantly. This whole thing, it might just be to fuck with us. Seriously.

Vaxx ad in Europe:

Bd6r says

What questions do you have

Better explanation for the following facts/circumstances that doesn't involve graphene oxide or nano particles:

NuttBoxer says

* Ingredients of shot are a secret.
* HUGE push to force inject as many as possible, despite risking global uprising, waking more people up, possibly leading to realization of their greatest fear(us united against them).
* Blood clots
* Synchronization with 5g rollout, a wavelength capable of passing through the human body, allowing for sending and receiving data.
* Well documented push towards bio-digital convergence, for which this scenario would be an ideal first step.

Blood clots are easy - this is caused by the toxic spike protein. Additionally, I recall that PEG crap causes blood clots in some who are allergic, and PEG derivatives are in this vaccine.
I have no idea what is bio-digital convergence, I suspect it is a buzzword with no real meaning.
Graphene can not send or receive data in any way.
I believe ingredients are not secret aka they have patents out. They do try to obfuscate nearly all patents so that competitors have harder time repeating.
Push to vaccinate - we don't know yet, many possible explanations.

My explanations:

* Ingredients of shot are a secret.

Each vaxx maker wants to keep its proprietary jab proprietary, for competitive advantage.

* HUGE push to force inject as many as possible, despite risking global uprising, waking more people up, possibly leading to realization of their greatest fear(us united against them).

Complete "regulatory capture" wherein health agencies have become agents of Pfizer. Essentially mafia in control of government. They are betting, probably correctly, that most sheeple will never actually resist.

* Blood clots

The nature of the mRNA vaxx is to create spike proteins which damage capillaries, and thus cause a cascade of larger clots.

* Synchronization with 5g rollout, a wavelength capable of passing through the human body, allowing for sending and receiving data.

Maybe coincidence. It is a bit odd. All radio waves pass through the human body anyway, but the ones at the resonant frequency of water heat you up like a microwave heats coffee.

* Well documented push towards bio-digital convergence, for which this scenario would be an ideal first step.

True, there has been a lot of talk about that in recent years.

I'm not saying it's impossible that there is something super-nefarious going on (beyond Pfauci creating a virus to sell a vaxx for Pfizer once again). But the most likely explanation to me seems to be regulatory capture, greed, and "mass formation psychosis" which keeps it going.

Patrick says

regulatory capture, greed, and "mass formation psychosis" which keeps it going

We can't exclude conditioning society to accept random stupid rules. IT IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD THAT WE SHOOT YOU!!!

Bd6r says

and PEG derivatives are in this

Yes, I remember reading that...

Bd6r says

I have no idea what is bio-digital convergence, I suspect it is a buzzword with no real meaning.

And there's the missing piece. We cannot discuss this at all until you read up at least a little on that subject. It is the big picture that pulls all the pieces together.

Pfizer patent that ties into this:
https://patrick.net/post/1341744/2021-10-06-pfizer-applies-for-patent-to-monitor-yo

Great video on the subject with lots of references:
https://patrick.net/post/1339621/2021-06-10-bio-digital-convergence-or-how-i-learne

And I put high regard in Corbett after he dubunked the theory I had pushed for years that Kennedy was killed for trying to get rid of the federal reserve.

NuttBoxer says

read up at least a little on that subject

thx, will look at that when I have time.

Another source on the possibility of nanoparticles in the shots:
https://rumble.com/vlg54s-antionietta-gatti-gatti-nano-pathology-and-nano-toxicology-planet-lockdown.html?source=patrick.net

Because of their unrestrained power and complete lack of humanitarian ethics, they can put anything they want in various batches to study the effects. Japanese observers believe the over 3 million contaminated doses that they recalled were nothing less than a vehicle to kill. The Woo even stated that the Japanese caper resurrected largely dormant assassin cults to go after the culprits.