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mell says

I maintain the bigger problem is people not moving, not their diet.

Maybe for most people. I used to run 7 miles a day and when I didn't run like that, I bike 100 miles a week.

If I want to be in good condition, I can't drink beer, I can't eat processed foods, I can't eat out all the time, I basically don't eat carbs other than vegetables and beans. When I have a salad, I have to make my own damned salad dressing, I can't buy anything in a jar unless it's something like "tomato paste", I cannot buy pasta sauce, I can't consume ketchup unless I make it, I can't eat anything preprocessed.

When I do this for long enough, a soda is sickeningly sweet, a single beer gets me tipsy, ketchup becomes disgustingly sweet, I will feel nauseous when I eat out - it's too much food.

The problem is food in the United States is junk.

You can eat ice cream all day and be hungry because although you've consumed 5000 calories, you didn't get any nutrition.

I've fasted before for 2 weeks. Day 1-3 suck, but after that, you're no longer hungry, you got into ketosis, and although thinking isn't the easiest and you're tired, you will start burning all your fat. You have to get electrolytes meaning salt and possibly potassium salt. If you're already thin, doing this could kill you, so I don't recommend it.

richwicks says

I used to run 7 miles a day

Do you still run?

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

richwicks says

I used to run 7 miles a day

Do you still run?

No. Running that much was destroying my body and I pay for it now.

I used to bike quite a bit, and may get back into it.

The food our grandparents ate wasn't any better or worse. But they moved all day. No smart phones or game consoles and for the most part no computers. You can eat all the shit you want on top of a run of the mill diet as long as you work out all day. And probably easily consume 3000 calories without gaining weight (depending on how tall and/or muscular you are).

richwicks says

Running that much

Who says you have to run that much? I run a little over two miles, once every other day or so, depending on the weather. On non-running days, I use the elliptical. I’m working my way up to 3.1 miles, but no hurry. I currently do much more elliptical than running, which has helped with developing aerobic capacity. No huffing and puffing when running.