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Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Yes, Mell. We know that soluble spike protein binds to the ACE-2 receptor. And that the gene therapies do create soluble spike protein; the protein just doesn't stay localized at the site of gene therapy injection. So the spike protein that binds to ACE-2 receptors in cardiac tissue, for example, acts as a beacon for immune cells that have been instructed to recognize it via "vaccination", previous infection, or just via innate immunity. And the immune cells kill the protein bound cells.

Now if (underscore if) the referenced HIV sequences are present in the gene therapy produced spike protein, and if the sequences cause the soluble spike protein bind to CD4, the same thing will happen, that is, CD4 cells will be targeted and taken out. This is the "CD4+ cell depletion by inappropriate immune targeting" described in the last reference above. So while Gp120 enables HIV entry into the cell, it does this by first binding to CD4. The spike protein is not a virus, but it might be ab...

Thx makes sense, but that would also mean that for traditional protein based viruses such as novavax potential damage will be limited since s proteins are limited, similar to a covid infection. For mrna it will depend on how long it is active and what makes it worse is that the s proteins are generated within organs as opposed to a traditional protein based vaccine only containing harvested proteins.

You guys did read the DOD report that said the threat is the spike protein, not the corona virus right? Came out with a bunch of docs fairly recently. Basically what was engineered was the spike protein, and corona, which has and will be around forever, was just the virus it hitched a ride on to enter our systems. Explains why I continued to experience zinc depletion symptoms after recovery.

This is just black propaganda. The AIDS virus is a hoax so this is a hoax within a hoax. See Peter Duesberg: https://www.duesberg.com/?source=patrick.net

Virus tests don’t tell you what they think they tell you. Maybe they measure something that is nothing more than Vaccine residue. AIDS is caused by intravenous drug use, not a virus, so not unlikely this HIV test is just picking up drug-like poison the vaccine left in the body.

The point of this “leak” (like the Wuhan lab leak) is to make vaccine objectors look crazy, or at least waste their time. Look, you don’t need any of this to object to the vaccines. Just keep it to what is readily available from verifiable sources.

Viruses are a statistical artifact of protein analysis. You can find patterns in anything if you look hard enough. Think Bible Codes. Vaccines are who knows what, they won’t even give us the full ingredients. All we do know is that government agencies are forcing people to take them when there is no good reason to even according to what the FDA has “approved” them to do (FDA says of the “approved” Pfizer and Moderna vaccines that they have not been proven to prevent transmission). Plus, FDA hasn’t approved them for boosters or for children. Anyway, that should be enough. I mean if you find this stuff interesting, have at it. Just don’t think it will convince anybody on the fence.

A more detailed citation of the Duesberg hypothesis: https://www.duesberg.com/papers/pddrgenetica.html?source=patrick.net

I have to admit given the blanketing disgrace revealed in the last couple of years of organized medicine, medical journals, Pharma, industrial medicine, Rockefeller allopathy, and our captured, crooked FDA and CDC, that Duesberg's proposals don't seem out of bounds. Was HIV AIDS a bogey man bandwagon that was an ongoing 'health crisis' publicity stunt to fleece the taxpayers? Fauci is a long experienced con artist and crisis actor serving these interests? HIV AIDS was an experiment to see how far they could establish a religious fraud around a disease with publicity fiat? Expensive medications were developed that kill rather than cure and are then attributed to the 'disease' to keep the cycle going? A government funded 'grant engine' rewarding research supporting foregone conclusions reinforcing the theme? Hmm, sounds familiar.

Using lots and lots of drugs, IV etc. and having sex with huge numbers of people could be bad for your health and wreck you immune system? Plausible.

mell says

Thx makes sense, but that would also mean that for traditional protein based viruses such as novavax potential damage will be limited since s proteins are limited, similar to a covid infection. For mrna it will depend on how long it is active and what makes it worse is that the s proteins are generated within organs as opposed to a traditional protein based vaccine only containing harvested proteins.

Yes, the nucleic acid gene therapies have the potential to be much worse than protein vaccines. But with regards to the Novavax immunogen, it appears to be a spike protein octamer. Now if the goose gets loose in the circulation or lymph system, and the octamer binds to endotheial cells, or cardiac cells, or intestine, ovaries, testes, etc., there are eight times the ACE-2 receptor binding capability, and eight times the inappropriate immune targeting (beacon) capability. Having an octameric immunogen attached to a healthy cell could create something like an immune complex formation, quite nasty and inflammatory. The tox risk is all hypothetical which is why its a good thing pharma has spent over a decade testing the vaccine. :>))

Ceffer says

Using lots and lots of drugs, IV etc. and having sex with huge numbers of people could be bad for your health and wreck you immune system? Plausible.

This was a football sized Red Pill for me to get down. I was in the Bay Area during the height of The Plague and saw the devastation. RFK jr's book gently lead me to realize it was likely all bullshit and Fauci probably killed more people with AZT (think Remdesivir) than 'AIDS' did.
That book changed the way I look at the world and I was already a cynic. I can't recommend it highly enough.

NuttBoxer says

You guys did read the DOD report that said the threat is the spike protein, not the corona virus right? Came out with a bunch of docs fairly recently. Basically what was engineered was the spike protein, and corona, which has and will be around forever, was just the virus it hitched a ride on to enter our systems. Explains why I continued to experience zinc depletion symptoms after recovery.

The spike protein gets flushed out during every successful recovery from covid. The body can deal with it unless it gets reproduced in massive amounts inside critical organs by the mrna jabs for a longer duration, potentially forever

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

mell says

Thx makes sense, but that would also mean that for traditional protein based viruses such as novavax potential damage will be limited since s proteins are limited, similar to a covid infection. For mrna it will depend on how long it is active and what makes it worse is that the s proteins are generated within organs as opposed to a traditional protein based vaccine only containing harvested proteins.

Yes, the nucleic acid gene therapies have the potential to be much worse than protein vaccines. But with regards to the Novavax immunogen, it appears to be a spike protein octamer. Now if the goose gets loose in the circulation or lymph system, and the octamer binds to endotheial cells, or cardiac cells, or intestine, ovaries, testes, etc., there are eight times the ACE-2 receptor binding capability, and eight times the inappropriate immune targeting (beacon) capability. Having an octameric im...

Right, but without directly injecting it into the bloodstream (ideally always aspire) or lymph system this will likely not happen in any meaningful quantities. I'm following the safety data released by novavax and it seems much safer than the mrna/dna junk, and the scenario you mentioned (ace2 binding) should have set off a strong safety signal in the trials if it were a frequent occurrence. Will keep monitoring, thx again for the heads up.

mell says

(ideally always aspire)

Right, so Kanesha with an almost completed Cosmetology AA degree adminstering jabs at CVS might not be the best way to go.

mell says

The spike protein gets flushed out during every successful recovery from covid. The body can deal with it unless it gets reproduced in massive amounts inside critical organs by the mrna jabs for a longer duration, potentially forever

Sounds right, but seems to be the last part of the healing process, or the last thing that remains active, attacking the bodies defenses. Wondering though, if this is just a passenger, how many other substances can it hitch a ride on in an attempt to re-infect?

Undoctored says

This is just black propaganda. The AIDS virus is a hoax so this is a hoax within a hoax. See Peter Duesberg: https://www.duesberg.com/?source=patrick.net

If you watch the Plandemic documentaries, I believe they mention something similar. That a researcher confirmed AIDS had never truly been identified. I think Kerry Mullis also had this gripe, maybe he's the researcher I'm thinking of.

But covid shots compromising the immune system is definitely not propaganda. I've seen too much confirmation on this from many sources over the past year. Whether their immune systems are permanently compromised is what remains to be seen.

Agreed vaccines appear to be actually impairing the immune system but to call it HIV-induced AIDS is disinformation. If there’s anything to those lab leak theories it’s that they did research on how to create a test and a vaccine that when used together would make it look like there was a virus causing all the trouble and that the vaccine was helping rather than hurting. They couldn’t get the desired results but then they realized they could just spout nonsense and fudge the numbers and people would believe anything anyway.

It may give you VaxAIDS but in order to be "employed" in CA, legislation is pending that will throw you out of work if not fake-vaxxed? What am I missing here? Sheesh...

PerfectlyFlawed says

It may give you VaxAIDS but in order to be "employed" in CA, legislation is pending that will throw you out of work if not fake-vaxxed? What am I missing here? Sheesh...

You can still live in CA but need to work remotely for a non-CA employer. This bill will most likely not pass but it's never a mistake to make your voice heard.

This stuff is all in it's death rattle phase. California will likely push this nonsense longer than most, but I wouldn't be worried about any potential legislation as we've already over-ruled them.

I'm reading the data and being far more susceptible to the new variant - as bad as that already is - is not the same as developing AIDS, they are conflating ADE and AIDS here. Otherwise the data seems to be correct, wish they would have named it differently though. While there may be a general weakening of the immune system, the immune deficiency described here is specific to the new variant(s), a phenomenon called ADE long known, not to any virus out there.

"On May 11, 1987, the London Times published an explosive article titled "Smallpox vaccine causes the AIDS virus." It has been suggested that the smallpox vaccination program promoted by WHO is responsible for the spread of AIDS in Africa. Almost 100 million Africans living in Central Africa have been vaccinated by the World Health Organization. The vaccine was blamed for awakening the "dormant" infection of the AIDS virus on the continent. The WHO consultant confessed: "Now I believe that the theory of the smallpox vaccine explains the explosion of (the incidence of) AIDS." Dr. Robert Gallo, one of the discoverers of HIV, told the Times: "The link between the WHO program and the epidemic is an interesting and important hypothesis."


https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/38070?source=patrick.net

Ceffer says

"On May 11, 1987, the London Times published an explosive article titled "Smallpox vaccine causes the AIDS virus." It has been suggested that the smallpox vaccination program promoted by WHO is responsible for the spread of AIDS in Africa. Almost 100 million Africans living in Central Africa have been vaccinated by the World Health Organization. The vaccine was blamed for awakening the "dormant" infection of the AIDS virus on the continent. The WHO consultant confessed: "Now I believe that the theory of the smallpox vaccine explains the explosion of (the incidence of) AIDS." Dr. Robert Gallo, one of the discoverers of HIV, told the Times: "The link between the WHO program and the epidemic is an interesting and important hypothesis."


https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/38070?source=patrick.net

I don't know, maybe. But plenty of people develop aids without the smallpox vaccine every year. I def think it's a combo of hiv and lifestyle. There are few people who are hiv positive and never develop aids, but I wouldn't risk it a la duesberg's bet. I'd rather take covid for $100 ;)

Ready for full-blown VaxAIDS?

Gary Johnston asserts that "EVERYONE Has AIDS".... It may well be time to get that 'Quilt' out!!

Ceffer says

On May 11, 1987, the London Times published an explosive article titled "Smallpox vaccine causes the AIDS virus."

It’s actually more plausible that certain batches of smallpox vax contained HIV.

PeopleUnited says

Ceffer says

On May 11, 1987, the London Times published an explosive article titled "Smallpox vaccine causes the AIDS virus."

It’s actually more plausible that certain batches of smallpox vax contained HIV.

Or injections with dirty needles in environment where there are many HIV-infected people.

Or they reused needles. It being the third world.

Contaminated needles is possible, but not all vaccines are injected. The following details how an oral vaccine could been contaminated accidentally. And dare we consider the possibility that it could have been deliberately contaminated as well?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/virus/origins.html?source=patrick.net

the "OPV/AIDS" theory, was exhaustively detailed in the 1999 book The River, by author Edward Hooper. As many as a million Africans were given oral polio vaccines (OPV) between 1957 and 1960. Hooper says witnesses have told him that a few batches of those vaccines were "grown" in chimp cells at a lab in Kisangani, a city in the Democratic Republic of the Congo -- and that the chimp cells, and thus the vaccines, could have contained SIVs that jumped into humans. "There are highly significant correlations between the places where this vaccine was administered and the places where … AIDS first appeared on the planet four to 20 years later," Hooper says.

Monkey virus, bat virus, cooked up in a lab virus— all psy-ops. Whether it’s poppers, shots, OPV or AZT It’s just plain poison wrecking the immune system plus a worthless test claimed to detect a virus. Magic Johnson once tested positive for HIV and there he is at the latest Super Bowl decades later doing just fine. Maybe the HIV test is just a test for human genes that happen to be more frequent in those of African origin, and maybe it can be easily “cooked” by the presence of certain drugs? When you’re dealing with known liars don’t take anything they say for granted.

Undoctored says

Monkey virus, bat virus, cooked up in a lab virus— all psy-ops. Whether it’s poppers, shots, OPV or AZT It’s just plain poison wrecking the immune system plus a worthless test claimed to detect a virus. Magic Johnson once tested positive for HIV and there he is at the latest Super Bowl decades later doing just fine. Maybe the HIV test is just a test for human genes that happen to be more frequent in those of African origin, and maybe it can be easily “cooked” by the presence of certain drugs? When you’re dealing with known liars don’t take anything they say for granted.

AIDS can be prevented with anti viral drug cocktails since 20+ years already, so you can test positive for HIV, but the anti virals will keep the virus at undetectable levels. Sure you pay the price of side effects, but in the case of AIDS it's worth it and has enabled infected people to lead near normal lives with a normal life span. Medicine isn't always bad. The reason these cocktails have been working so well on HIV is due to its very low replication rate. I'm not surprised MJ is doing fine, he had the money to get those treatments way back then when they were brand new and expensive.

https://www.covidglobalnews.live/health/situation-update-feb-16-2022-media-pushing-hiv-variant-narrative-as-cover-story-for-vaxxine-induced-immune-system-collapse/?source=patrick.net

Situation Update, Feb 16, 2022 – Media Pushing “HIV Variant” Narrative As Cover Story for Vaxxine-Induced Immune System Collapse
February 18, 2022

Hey, just like before, you can get HIV from a needle!

https://www.brighteon.com/10a7f571-6c98-43a3-a7c9-c061ef88242a?source=patrick.net

VAIDS: Vaccine Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome Infecting Vaxxed Worldwide

https://www.civilianintelligencenetwork.ca/2021/10/07/science-confirms-mrna-vaccine-causes-hiv-dependent-aids/?source=patrick.net

Patrick says

https://www.civilianintelligencenetwork.ca/2021/10/07/science-confirms-mrna-vaccine-causes-hiv-dependent-aids/?source=patrick.net

Interesting. Having antibodies to HIV proteins does not necessarily mean one has the HIV virus, nor AIDS. If I immunize you with HIV peptides, you will make anti-HIV antibodies, but won't have been infected with the virus, nor have AIDS. I think a more interesting question is whether the gp120 inserts in the spike protein from the gene therapy bind to CD4. If so, than your immune system targets CD4 T cells for destruction, i.e., T cell bound spike protein acts as a beacon for attack by anti-spike antibodies and immune cells. That would be AIDS-like, but not due to being infected with the HIV virus.

Right, so now you see people using the term VAIDS, for vaxx-induced aids. It is a different kind of acquired immunity deficiency syndrome.

I think an awful lot of people would not have submitted to the vaxx if they had realized it was made using proteins from the actual HIV virus though. Even now, they probably do not want to be reminded of that.