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Reality says

Eric Holder says

The weird-looking structure on top of the turret is supposedly there to defeat Javelin ATM.

Exactly what I was thinking: the breathless media promotion of the Javelin Missile would just induce the enemies in future conflicts to add a metal pagola/basket on top of their tanks to trigger the warhead's melted metal stream before it reaches the real tank roof.

That shit doesn't work against Javs. It's there to calm the crew's nerves. But now they know its worth.

https://twitter.com/dohuyaUmnyi/status/1499725455288582149?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&source=patrick.net

Eric Holder says

https://twitter.com/dohuyaUmnyi/status/1499725455288582149?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&source=patrick.net

Buncha guys driving an ancient Ural bike with an old mortar. This proves Russian is being beaten back and taking massive casualties.

"We stopped the Russians cold outside Kherson"
24 hours later: "The evil Russians have taken Kherson and set fire to the nuclear plant"

Reality says

Ka-50 and Ka-52 look very similar to each other (having twin-rotors). Ka-50 has been in production since the 1980's. Both Russia and Ukraine have them.

As far as I know Ukraine doesn't have any Ka-s. What's your source?

Eric Holder says

That shit doesn't work against Javs. It's there to calm the crew's nerves. But now they know its worth.

Javelin has a tandem pair of shaped charges as the war head precisely because metal grid/mesh works at setting off those shaped charge: that's why there has to be a stage-2 (sitting in tandem behind the stage-1 part) to reach the actual tank after stage-1 is triggered by the metal grid/mesh. The counter-measure to a two-sage shaped charge is two layers of metal grid/mesh each spaced outside the tank. Then Raytheon would have to make a 3-stage warhead . . . hence see my comment above regarding flight characteristics and portability limit as stages increase.

Reality says

Eric Holder says

That shit doesn't work against Javs. It's there to calm the crew's nerves. But now they know its worth.

Javelin has a tandem pair of shaped charges as the war head precisely because metal grid/mesh works at setting off those shaped charge: that's why there has to be a stage-2 (sitting in tandem behind the stage-1 part) to reach the actual tank after stage-1 is triggered by the metal grid/mesh. The counter-measure to a two-sage shaped charge is two layers of metal grid/mesh each spaced outside the tank. Then Raytheon would have to make a 3-stage warhead . . . hence see my comment above regarding flight characteristics and portability limit as stages increase.

I know the theory but there is plenty of evidence on the ground already. The stupid bedframe thingy does not protect tanks from being destroyed or disabled.

Su-35:


https://t.me/voynareal/12693?source=patrick.net

https://t.me/D7_channel/4576

Napping pilot-liberator in Chernihiv:


https://mobile.twitter.com/free_esports/status/1500056854025621504?source=patrick.net

And his awake comrade:

https://mobile.twitter.com/latiniano/status/1500067631466000384

Another pilot:

https://t.me/novosti_n/9033?source=patrick.net

@RWSGFY,

1. RUSSIANS WILL NOT ATTACK!
2. IF THEY DO ATTACK, THEY WILL WIN IN 96 HOURS!
3. THIS ALL IS COMPUTER GRAPHICS WITH SYRIANS/CRISIS ACTORS TALKING IN UKRAINIAN/RUSSIAN!
4. RUSSIAN DELEGATION IN WASHINGTON FOR TALKS.
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WE ARE HERE
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5. HOW CAN WE THINK OF ANYTHNG ELSE WHY PUTIN IS GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER?

Eric Holder says

I know the theory but there is plenty of evidence on the ground already. The stupid bedframe thingy does not protect tanks from being destroyed or disabled.

Bedframes do not help if tank crews run away:

https://nitter.net/666_mancer/status/1500078972192841729?source=patrick.net#m

RWSGFY says

Napping pilot-liberator in Chernihiv:


https://mobile.twitter.com/free_esports/status/1500056854025621504?source=patrick.net

And his awake comrade:

https://mobile.twitter.com/latiniano/status/1500067631466000384?source=patrick.net

During the glory days of the Syrian campaign:

Just so I’m clear here, we are glorying in the death and destruction of Russian military assets and personnel? Is that the intent of this thread?

Eric Holder says

Fortwaynemobile says

RWSGFY says

Ukie mayor presenting the liberators with the keys to his town:


https://mobile.twitter.com/MaximEristavi/status/1497974778673647619?source=patrick.net

Notice how nobody died? That’s a very good sign, videos from real war in Iraq were different

Yeah, one video in which nobody died. What about the rest? Fake? What about that Kharkiv footage socal2 just posted above? Hollywood footage?

They have those on theepochtimes they show the war very accurately. Fox looks like war propaganda with cardboard gun guys.

Fortwaynemobile says

Eric Holder says

Fortwaynemobile says

RWSGFY says

Ukie mayor presenting the liberators with the keys to his town:


https://mobile.twitter.com/MaximEristavi/status/1497974778673647619?source=patrick.net

Notice how nobody died? That’s a very good sign, videos from real war in Iraq were different

Yeah, one video in which nobody died. What about the rest? Fake? What about that Kharkiv footage socal2 just posted above? Hollywood footage?

They have those on theepochtimes they show the war very accurately. Fox looks like war propaganda with cardboard gun guys.

Cardboard? Somebody still living in pre-02/24/22 world...

I didn't realize we had so many correspondents for the NATO propaganda networks on patnet. You guys would great Covidians.

NuttBoxer says

I didn't realize we had so many correspondents for the NATO propaganda networks on patnet. You guys would great Covidians.

Except I never was a "covidian". But you're welcome to back up you accusations with links and quotes.

And what's with all the protestations: I though you liked getting info from multiple sources. Suddenly something not jiving with the RT picture makes you uncomfortable?

Relax: it's just CGI. IRL the mighty Russki army is greeted with flowers and copious amount of vodka and pussy.

More pilots greeted as liberators after lured to land by showing them a bottle of vodka:

https://youtu.be/7RfbUm8orps?source=patrick.net

RWSGFY says

Except we never were "covidians". But you're welcome to back up you accusations with links and quotes.

And what's with all the protestations: I though you liked getting info from multiple sources. Suddenly something not jiving with the RT picture makes you uncomfortable?

I understand that propaganda didn't fit your narrative, but this propaganda does, so you just right in without question. Pfizer might not flow through your veins, but NATO certainly does.

NuttBoxer says

RWSGFY says

Except we never were "covidians". But you're welcome to back up you accusations with links and quotes.

And what's with all the protestations: I though you liked getting info from multiple sources. Suddenly something not jiving with the RT picture makes you uncomfortable?

I understand that propaganda didn't fit your narrative, but this propaganda does, so you just right in without question. Pfizer might not flow through your veins, but NATO certainly does.

Yes, I have my own ideas about right and wrong. They don't align with yours and Putins? Tough cookies, you'll have to live with it.

RWSGFY says

Putin is 5ft 7in, and not the shortest guy in the picture. It seems Russian airmen are chosen from midgets.

RWSGFY says

RWSGFY says

Napping pilot-liberator in Chernihiv:


https://mobile.twitter.com/free_esports/status/1500056854025621504?source=patrick.net

And his awake comrade:

https://mobile.twitter.com/latiniano/status/1500067631466000384?source=patrick.net

During the glory days of the Syrian campaign:

What's with the fat fucks in Russain AF anyway: doesn't being a lardass make it harder to tolerate high G's?

RWSGFY says

RWSGFY says

Napping pilot-liberator in Chernihiv:


https://mobile.twitter.com/free_esports/status/1500056854025621504?source=patrick.net

And his awake comrade:

https://mobile.twitter.com/latiniano/status/1500067631466000384

But... But.. Computer graphics!

The conversation they are having is priceless, between him asserting that he didn't know he's bombing the city and them (oh so gently) pointing out that it's reflected in the flight plan.

RWSGFY says

What's with the fat fucks in Russain AF anyway: doesn't being a lardass make it harder to tolerate high G's?

He's alive and his slimmer partner is dead, all that extra cushion must've worked.

Bd6r says

@RWSGFY,

1. RUSSIANS WILL NOT ATTACK!
2. IF THEY DO ATTACK, THEY WILL WIN IN 96 HOURS!
3. THIS ALL IS COMPUTER GRAPHICS WITH SYRIANS/CRISIS ACTORS TALKING IN UKRAINIAN/RUSSIAN!
4. RUSSIAN DELEGATION IN WASHINGTON FOR TALKS.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WE ARE HERE
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5. HOW CAN WE THINK OF ANYTHNG ELSE WHY PUTIN IS GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER?

The flew to Fashington already? Interesting...

mostly reader says

RWSGFY says

What's with the fat fucks in Russain AF anyway: doesn't being a lardass make it harder to tolerate high G's?

He's alive and his slimmer partner is dead, all that extra cushion must've worked.

Rumor has it they were both alive when they landed but his slimmer partner decided to shoot one of the two peasants who were greeting him as a liberator and was killed with a shovel by the other.

Teacheable moment wrt 2A. All peasants must have rifles.

RWSGFY says

Teacheable moment wrt 2A. All peasants must have rifles.

This is the takeaway. Javelins wouldn't be so bad, either, since in the Early Republic canon ownership was allowed. This is NOT sarcastic.

AmericanKulak says

Javelins wouldn't be so bad, either, since in the Early Republic canon ownership was allowed.

Oddly enough, in parts of the US where handguns are tightly controlled, one is allowed to own weapons like a Javelin and a cannon. Obviously not practical.

RWSGFY says

The flew to Fashington already? Interesting...

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/newkc14/status/1500056469244297217?source=patrick.net#m
either talks, or removal of diplomats from fashington

HeadSet says

AmericanKulak says

Javelins wouldn't be so bad, either, since in the Early Republic canon ownership was allowed.

Oddly enough, in parts of the US where handguns are tightly controlled, one is allowed to own weapons like a Javelin and a cannon. Obviously not practical.

A bit spendy, yes. Like $200K for the tube and $80K per shot iirc.

First babushka bedframes on tanks, now this:

Probably meant to stop fragments where it matters most. Doesn't seem reliable against bullets, unless may be 5.45 or from far away.

mostly reader says

Probably meant to stop fragments where it matters most. Doesn't seem reliable against bullets, unless may be 5.45 or from far away.

Since 2008 they allegedly spent umpteens billions $$ to modernize their army and this is what they got - bedframes on tanks and firewood on military trucks? Were these billions simply stolen?

RWSGFY says

Since 2008 they allegedly spent umpteens billions $$ to modernize their army and this is what they got - bedframes on tanks and firewood on military trucks? Were these billions simply stolen?

Stolen, mislocated, mis-appropriated, etc. Using the $$ to develop hypersonic shit (or just cartoons to show hypersonic shit) has a much greater "wow" factor than to change manufacturing processes. Plus, military is a huge bureaucracy which may miss stupidly obvious things until it's collective face is rubbed right into it.

While on the topic of well-equipped armies. You know who may win this war for Ukraine if he wants to? Erdogan. He's helping, but it seems that he's doing just enough to keep Russians stuck in Ukraine while he'll be kicking their asses in Syria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YaXdP06zO0

RWSGFY says

Since 2008 they allegedly spent umpteens billions $$ to modernize their army and this is what they got - bedframes on tanks and firewood on military trucks? Were these billions simply stolen?

RFP-General Lobbyist Technologies Install of Stryker "Slats" - $100,000 per vehicle- approved DOD Contract Number #64231



2004 General Lobbyist Technology Donations:
Senator John McCain $5000
Rep Paul Ryan $5000
Rep Nancy Pelosi $5000

"Russia has a corruption problem"

EDIT: (This post is sarcastic, but basically what happens with military contracts.)