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The_Deplorable says

John Kirby to the media: Don't Cover This Leak.
Meaning, the blueprints for starting the Ukraine war.



https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1756411956813082770

Looks like Ukrainian's aren't down with dying in someone else's war. Sources are WAPO, and NY Times, and Twitter:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-anti-conscription-protests-emerge-zelensky-hunts-manpower

On to the House! Military Industrial Complex and the Warmongers WIN Again! (and not one penny towards securing our border)

Putin and Xi will regret challenging America – US Senate leader

Chuck Schumer has rejoiced following a vote to continue funding the Ukraine conflict
American senators from both parties coming out in support of aid for Ukraine and Israel is a powerful signal to Russia and China, as well as Washington’s allies, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Tuesday.

The 100-member chamber approved the $95 billion “national security” funding bill with 70 votes in favor and 29 opposed. Eight Republican senators spent most of the night filibustering against the proposal.

“Today we make [Russian President] Vladimir Putin regret the day he questioned America’s resolve, and we make clear to others, like China’s President Xi [Jinping], not to test our determination,” Schumer said in a speech after the vote. “And we send a clear, bipartisan message of resolve to our allies in NATO.”

Schumer also praised the passage of the bill as greatly impacting “the security of Western democracy.”

The Senate bill would give Ukraine $61 billion in aid, as well as $14 billion to Israel for its war against Hamas, and almost $5 billion for arming Taiwan. The White House originally bundled it with a “border reform” proposal but proceeded with foreign aid only after Democrats and Republicans could not agree on immigration.
https://www.rt.com/news/592386-democrat-schumer-hailed-ukrainian-aid-passage/

https://medium.com/@deborahlarmstrong/human-beings-disassembled-like-legos-faab1e19ef41

In part one of this series, we heard from a Syrian medical student who said that he had personally harvested organs from Ukrainian soldiers and from civilians who did not always give their permission and were not always suffering from life-threatening injuries. We also heard from a former officer of the Security Services of Ukraine (SBU) who was assigned to guard the “black transplantologists” as they traveled from one war-torn town to another, harvesting organs. ...

The three videos featured in part one were all in Russian, and Russian media was quoted throughout the article. It’s your choice to believe what you see or dismiss it as propaganda. But you may also want to consider the following.

Sonja Van den Ende, a Dutch journalist who reports regularly from the war-torn Donbass region, has also written extensively about organ harvesting in Ukraine. Her most recent article appeared on Devend Online on January 9th of this year, just three days after mine. It was titled, “Ukrainian Front-line Soldiers or Guinea Pigs for the West?” ...

It was then reported in Russian media that at least a third of Ukrainian soldiers were “missing in action” (MIA) because the Ukrainian military was unable or unwilling to properly collect the dead and register them as having died in combat. Additionally, it was reported that Ukrainians were actively cremating bodies in the field. This means that the actual numbers of casualties can be kept hidden and compensation to next of kin can be delayed or avoided completely and, instead, shared among officers and senior military officials.

The thousands of dying or freshly dead Ukrainian soldiers not properly accounted must have been a feast which the so-called “black transplantologists” could not refuse, and so they allegedly flocked in from all over Europe to reap the harvest of illegal organs and other body parts. After all, a patient who is in desperate need of a heart, or a kidney, or another vital organ is unlikely to ask about its origins. ...

When he was asked what Ukraine does with the bodies, Ovchinsky replied, “They burn them. Nobody cancelled the experience of Auschwitz or, say, Dachau. And the Banderites are direct heirs of Hitler. There is information about mobile crematoriums to destroy the remains of people whose organs are removed.” ...

It also seems apparent that the rank-and-file Ukrainian military is not directly involved in the organ harvests, which are performed without permission and often in secret, according to the testimonies we read. Those doing the harvesting appear to swoop in from foreign countries like vultures whenever there is a conflict.

It makes sense. War, after all, is more about money than it is about “freedom” or “democracy,” no matter how patriotic the pundits may sound when they raise their battle cry. Weapons manufacturers and military contractors make untold billions from wars, so why shouldn’t the healthcare industry, or at least its dark underbelly, also make a profit?

Patrick says

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NuttBoxer says

Looks like Ukrainian's aren't down with dying in someone else's war. Sources are WAPO, and NY Times, and Twitter:

This has been known for quite some time. Not new. And is an obvious reaction. Easter European and Russians are generally dumb, but not dumb enough to think they'll "win." This is a stalemate war that might go on for another 5-8 years. Maybe even longer. This is WWI type fighting trench warfare style.

They're just going to shoot at each other and lob artillery for the next several years. 20-50 will get wounded or killed a day. Russia could have manhandle this in a week but for whatever reason they can't. They have air superiority. They had ships that should have been able to strike inland. None of it worked. Ukrainians are literal sitting ducks. It's less about the funding going to Ukraine. It's Russian weakness.

Ukraine sinks Russia’s Ceasar Kunikov warship in the Black Sea using Magura boat drones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYncD-yjoQc

KERRY ADMITS TO UA COUP: 'ALL IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WERE WORKING TO REMOVE THE UA PROSECUTOR'

Bunch of Grifters.

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/congress-warns-if-we-dont-keep-sending-billions-to-ukraine-the-war-might-end

They're drugged.

https://twitter.com/unifiedprolife/status/1758512940871766470

Maybe that's the new game: legal delay. "Yeah, we have 60 billion for you. Some of it will be in cash bales for laundering and re-routing back to our politicians as usual usual. The rest will go to MIC for new armaments that will be ready in eight months. We'll get back to you when they are available. Howya doing with those F16s? Got the women, children and old janitors up to speed on piloting them?" Meanwhile the front line withers and the Russkies walk over the bodies.

Woo says Victoria Nuland was fragged in Ukraine by Russian missile, maybe the same one that nailed Austin at some secret NATO powwow. They are probably preparing a body double as we speak.

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/127236

US trail of cia induced death continues. guys we got some fucked up people running cia. i guess i shouldn’t be surprised we been doing this for years in middle east.

Continuing saga of Ukraine getting fooked. On the bright side, there are still lots of organ donors to be harvested, but not quite the bumper crop from before.

https://t.me/sitreports/23182

Ceffer says

Continuing saga of Ukraine getting fooked.

This is the future. Proxy wars and we don't send troops in. We might have a carrier group nearby just in case. Lob tomahawks or airstrikes with little to no chance of casualties. Is it right? I don't know. But better than losing Americans.

Border crisis is a bit concerning as I think they're going to give a pathway to citizenship by fighting stupid wars to illegals. Joe Biden cannot get out fast enough. I want Trump again, but I 100% would take Newsom or M. Obama over Biden if that happened (wouldn't vote for them). Biden is dying in front of us. No chance he makes it through another 4 year term. Then we get Kamala the cunt whore. We'll be the laughing stock of the world if Biden were to get reelected.

The new media (young) has been amazingly pro Trump though. We'll see how that plays out in November. Trump needs to get back on Twitter. Sorry not to call it X. Something weird with Musk and the letter X. He's not Rain Man autistic, but he's on some spectrum.

WookieMan says

This is the future. Proxy wars and we don't send troops in. We might have a carrier group nearby just in case. Lob tomahawks or airstrikes with little to no chance of casualties. Is it right? I don't know. But better than losing Americans.

How about not bombing anybody at all? It's not like any of the wars in our lifetimes have benefitted this nation.

Nobody has ever threatened this nation, except domestic enemies.

Adveevka has fallen.

How many Ukey lives were squandered on this defeat?

And for what? Ukey women who fled to Eastern Europe are now popping out Hungarian, Slovak, Czech & Slovak babies. Ukeys are going extinct even before the Chinese and Russians will.

Ukraine Is Fucked

UkraineIsFucked says

And for what? Ukey women who fled to Eastern Europe are now popping out Hungarian, Slovak, Czech & Slovak babies. Ukeys are going extinct even before the Chinese and Russians will.

This is true, but if they're getting money and putting up a fight, they'll keep going. This could go on till 2030. Ukraine was fucked before the war started. Russia came in like weak sauce. This has been a shit show and will continue into the foreseeable future. Again, I have no pony in the race. This is Eastern European bull shit. We're just wasting money on it.

WookieMan says

This is true, but if they're getting money and putting up a fight, they'll keep going.

No they won't. What point is there entering a fight that you're certain to lose you fucking psychopath? You jerk off to the though that 100's of thousands of people are dying for no reason at all?

Well the MIC is making money by having the Fed print up money and distributing it, costing everybody in America money except the people participating in this scam. Is that why you support it?

Polish farmers just spilled grain from a whole train of Ukraine origin cars and are blocking highways.

"Polish farmers are now singing the Polish national anthem as they dump Ukrainian grain onto the street"
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1760055676313772502?s=20

Pro HRE2 aka EU Shitbag confirms:
https://x.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/1758792421050118374?s=20

Polish Farmers claim Ukrainian Grain is Monsanto GMO shit, anyway.
https://x.com/WojPawelczyk/status/1760010878232166601?s=20

Hope the Polish Farmers don't get arrested; "Democracy is on the ballot" Technocrat Donald Tusk just shut down all the community-access radio and TV in Poland as one of his first acts, against "Misinformation".

richwicks says

WookieMan says

This is true, but if they're getting money and putting up a fight, they'll keep going.

No they won't. What point is there entering a fight that you're certain to lose you fucking psychopath? You jerk off to the though that 100's of thousands of people are dying for no reason at all?

Yes they will Rich. You clearly don't understand stubborn Eastern Europeans at all. At what point am "I" promoting it? Never has happened. Otherwise quote it. Both countries are losers and this will grind out for a decade at least.

This part of the world is shit. I don't care how pretty they made it look for Tucker. No different then Xi coming to your shit hole of a state and magically getting rid of the homeless. This is all optics by all sides. At the end of the day who gives a fuck? Half of Africa kills each other and no one gives a shit.

I focus on what I can control locally. They're across and Ocean with no capable Navy. Fuck 'em. I don't care if they die. Sure there's deaths. Guess what? Half the country doesn't even pay for it. That's my concern. We have half a country of fucking free loaders and a massive border issues with shit heads coming into the country. If money goes to Ukraine, whatever. How about half this country wakes the fuck up and starts paying. The border wall would be a non-issue in months. But hey, we let the free loaders just go about their way.

Regardless of US or Western involvement, this part of Ukraine is and will always be in contention. It has nothing to do with the US long term. You have a nation with only one warm water port 365 days a year. They're going to keep fighting and shrink their border with Europe.

WookieMan says

Yes they will Rich. You clearly don't understand stubborn Eastern Europeans at all.

it doesn't matter how "stubborn" they are.

Wherever the US Neocons drag the US, they leave a wasteland behind. Ukraine is dragging women into the infantry, even men with Down's Syndrome:


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That's how desperate they are. That man is probably dead by now.

I can show you the video of the 18-20 year old girl that starts out all happy because "she's fighting the good fight" at the start, only to see her later with a bloody face saying she's "so scared" - and how did that video get published? Likely because she's dead and the video was collected off her body, and posted to the Internet for propaganda purposes. Would you like to see that?

WookieMan says

Both countries are losers and this will grind out for a decade at least.

War is a zerosum game at best. Ukraine will certainly lose, it remains to be seen if Russia does or doesn't. The US will lose, because their proxy is doomed. Ukrainians will lose.

WookieMan says

They're across and Ocean with no capable Navy.

The navy of all nations is obsolete. In a real war between real powers, the only part of the Navy that will exist after two weeks will be submarines. It is TRIVIAL to sink a warship, or a battleship or an aircraft carrier. Easy. They are only useful to put personnel on when a far greater power is attacking a far weaker power. If the US got into a real war even with IRAN, no US ships would be afloat in the Arabian sea.

WookieMan says

We have half a country of fucking free loaders and a massive border issues with shit heads coming into the country. If money goes to Ukraine, whatever.

The freeloaders are the people creating war. They create distractions so they can be left unfettered as they sociopathically just kill people while you worry about "what you can do locally", while they invest in sure things like the corporations that profit from the wars they create. They'll just keep throwing more shit at you, which is why they throw shit at you. Any shit you clean up, they'll create more of it. That's why they create all this shit.

They're purposely throwing crap at you to keep you distracted. If you remove them, they can't throw more shit at you, but you will NEVER realize this.

WookieMan says

They're going to keep fighting and shrink their border with Europe.

Russia will emerge from this largely unscathed, with Europe dependent on US energy supply from both the Middle East and the United States, and a new cold war will be in full effect. US taxpayers will be forced to subsidize Europe.

You might, at THAT TIME, become dimly aware at that point how you're being played and if you talk about it, you'll be ignored by other people worried about "local issues" and THEY will be stupidly either entirely ignore what the sociopaths in power are doing or be actively supporting it.

I can't understand how at this point people can't understand it. How can you be so blind?

Take San Francisco again. How easy was that to clean up? Why didn't they do it before? Well, it was kept in the new cycle, people bitched and moaned about it, and they "worried about local issues", an issue that was easy to solve, but remained unsolved. Why do you think they allowed the problem to linger? How can you not realize?

I think the gulf is that people don't understand just what kind of evil people do exist. You think Victoria Nuland loses any sleep about 100 thousand or more Ukrainians dead, in a war she helped construct? I bet not. I bet she pats herself on the back with her wonderful ingenuity in constructing this humanitarian disaster and commands the respect of all around her about what a genius she is to have created such destruction. These people are subsubhuman. They are cannibals on societies.

What irks me, is only a TINY percentage of people recognize what monsters walk among us. "Oh, she just make a mistake", yeah like George W. Bush and his administration made a mistake over weapons of mass destruction, or Clinton and Obama made a mistake about the "humanitarian crisis" Qaddafi was about to cause, and so on. None of these are mistakes, if they were errors, people would be demoted and fired, instead they are promoted and given presidential medals of freedom. We have rapacious, murderous, sociopaths in power, who will kill you and me, as easily as they will kill anybody, but you go ahead and worry about what you can do locally, even though they purposely create the problems you try to solve, that are easily solved.

Reassessing American Aid After Avdiivka

As the second anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of the country to its west nears and the latest aid package for Ukraine stalls in Congress, we must be clear-eyed about the future: there is no path for Ukraine to win this war. American support will not change this reality.

No Path to Victory: Russia has the Momentum

The reality two years in is that there is no path to victory for Ukraine – not in the sense of pushing Russian troops back to the pre-February 2022 lines of control. After the Ukrainian troops abandoned Avdiivka – the most significant loss or gain by either side in nine months – following some of the war's heaviest fighting, almost all advantages accrue to Russia. The seizure of Avdiivka does not materially change the war, but it does change the momentum. Moscow can throw mass in terms of bodies, tanks, artillery, and drones at the exhausted Ukrainian forces until they crack. Ukraine is exhausted and outnumbered and struggling to recruit new troops. The best Ukraine can do now is fight Russia to a negotiated settlement that allows sovereignty, territorial integrity, and security from another Russian invasion. Even these provisions now seem unrealistic.

After initial setbacks at the onset of the invasion, the Russian military now displays the resolute determination initially witnessed by the other side. Russian generals have adapted to Ukraine's offenses after initial setbacks. Russian commanders are now building the kinds of defenses in depth that Ukrainian forces struggle to fight through. Russian ground forces now routinely defeat Ukraine's drones. Russia's formidable arsenals of attack helicopters, drones, and mines pound Ukraine while the Ukrainian troops resort to rationing artillery shells and long-range rockets.

In considering an aid package to Ukraine, DC policymakers and their constituents must assess how long the cash and weapons will continue to flow and toward what end. Getting to a favorable – or at least even – negotiated settlement will take more than a year of fighting. Putin has no incentive to stop fighting and every incentive to continue pushing and waiting for his adversaries to the west run out of troops and munitions, and policy makers in the U.S. run out of patience.

None of this is fair to the people of Ukraine, who have placed their hopes of sovereignty on American commitment. It is, however, the tragic reality of the situation. The $60 billion aid package held up in Congress will not significantly change the future. This fight is a long haul that will require additional aid. The spigot will close at some point – perhaps soon – turning off aid and sealing Ukraine's fate.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2024/02/21/ukraine_can_no_longer_win_1013260.html

Translation: Ukraine Is Fucked

Andrey Morozov, a prominent pro-war Russian blogger, has reportedly died by suicide following outrage over a post in which he claimed that the Russian army lost 16,000 soldiers during the capture of the eastern Ukrainian city of Avdiivka.
Morozov, who went by the pseudonym Murz on Telegram, was an ultra-nationalist commentator who fought alongside Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine in 2014 and participated in Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022.
On Sunday, Morozov wrote to his 120,000 followers on Telegram that Russia lost 16,000 personnel and 300 pieces of armour during its months-long capture of Avdiivka. The post drew heavy criticism from senior Russian propagandists, who accused the blogger of “slandering the Russian defence ministry”.
In Morozov’s final messages on Tuesday morning, he announced his suicide and said he was pressured by his superiors to delete the post detailing the number of casualties in Avdiivka. Several people close to Morozov on Tuesday confirmed his death, with some saying that he had shot himself.
Triggered in part by the rebellion by then-Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Kremlin last year largely cracked down on voices such as Morozov, who once was part of a loud group of ultra-nationalist hawks who criticised Moscow over shortages of weapons and accused the Russian military leadership of hiding the true death toll among its forces.
Russia hides its war losses and the true casualty toll from its invasion of Ukraine remains a secret, though western officials believe the war has cost the country more than 315,000 dead and injured troops.

4 months, 16K dead and 300 tanks lost is a cost of capturing a small town with pre-war population of 32K. Second army in the world, ladies and gentlemen, applause! And the previos victory of this "magnitude" was another town
of similar size - Bahmut - almost a year ago (May '23). At this kind of tempo the dream of capturing the whole "annexed" Dumb Ass could take decades...

Is Russia starting its 'cake walk' faze after immolating the equipment and personnel of the Azovs? The Ukies are abandoning the wounded, won't even make an effort to pick them up any more. That's gotta be good for morale.

RWSGFY says

4 months, 16K dead and 300 tanks lost is a cost of capturing a small town with pre-war population of 32K

Where are you getting this information from? The same people that told you there was a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq, that they were mobile weapons laps, that Hussein mailed out anthrax letters, that Hussein worked with binLaden, and that we couldn't wait for the final proof to come in the form a mushroom cloud, perhaps?

What retard would believing them at this point? You?

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/vital-signs-wednesday-february-21

New information emerging from relatives of dead and injured Ukrainian soldiers, plus reports from Russia’s ministry of defense, painted an even worse picture of the fall of Avdiivka than originally thought. For one thing, it looks like Ukraine waited to order its dying soldiers to withdraw until after most units lost cohesion and began to flee anyway. The withdrawal order was just political cover.

And when the withdrawal order did come through, the remaining soldiers were ordered to abandon their injured fellows, creating a chance for the media to attempt to frame a narrative around Russian maltreatment of captured Ukrainians rather than the catastrophic failure of Ukrainian command.

Zelensky, for his part, blamed the loss of the key fortress city on Republicans, for delaying his sweet, sweet American payola. In more bad news for Ukraine, its champion of democracy also issued a new declaration of martial law, which canceled next month’s presidential elections, and keeps the former comedian in undemocratic power through executive fiat until he says different.

Apparently, just now is an inconvenient time for Zelensky to run for re-election. But he’s not a dictator like Putin. No, never. Criticizing Zelensky is like criticizing Democracy™ itself.

richwicks says

Where are you getting this information from? The same people that told you there was a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq, that they were mobile weapons laps, that Hussein mailed out anthrax letters, that Hussein worked with binLaden, and that we couldn't wait for the final proof to come in the form a mushroom cloud, perhaps?

Dude, you've beaten the horse dead on this topic. No one cares. Water under the bridge. You bring it up in every comment and you sound like an idiot. Honestly you sound like a baby crying. Get the fuck over it. You're doing nothing to fix it. No one wants to hear your bitching anymore. I know there's an ignore feature, but I think you need to fucking hear it. Get over Iraq. Sorry if you lost a loved one or something. But bitching here is accomplishing nothing.

richwicks says

Nobody has ever threatened this nation, except the federal government.

Fixed it.

Apparently the new mantra coming from Western media is that Ukrainians dying is a good thing. Fucking death cult sociopaths..

Ukraine will lose the Donbas and won't get Crimea back.

The Russian military is no threat to Europe and won't be for at least a decade or so, especially if the Europeans give just a small rat's ass about improving their militaries by a small degree. As evidenced by it's inability to sieze all of East Bank Ukraine in a few months and it's retreat back from the initial gains due to lack of follow on forces to hold it. The front line battalions are up to snuff but have no staying power and not enough support to stay fighting for long periods of time.

Unless somebody escalates this thing to prevent the inevitable annexation/frozen conflict, this book is closed.

AmericanKulak says

The Russian military is no threat to Europe and won't be for at least a decade or so, especially if the Europeans give just a small rat's ass about improving their militaries by a small degree

True. Because in 10 years Russia won't be able to field a large enough military because of demographic collapse.

WookieMan says

Dude, you've beaten the horse dead on this topic

@WookieMan apparently not fucking enough when morons keep using these fucking pathological sociopathic asshole liars as sources of definitive information.

Who gives a fuck what those assholes say? STUPID PEOPLE do.

WookieMan says

You bring it up in every comment and you sound like an idiot.

At least I'm not such a fucking drooling retard I'm getting my information from people that have lied consistent for 20 fucking years.

Who are these stupid people?

"Duh! I heard it on TV" "Duh! The government and the intelligence agencies said.."

You cattle can't learn. Fucking TWENTY YEARS, and I still have to here DUMMIES refer to them as if they have any credibility AT ALL.

They'll lie us into another fucking war, or pandemic, or bailout for criminals in the financial sectors, or whatever, and you will STILL BELIEVE THEM. It's never ending. Never ending. In ANOTHER year it will be some other outrageous lie promoted by CNN, MSNBC, Google, and Facebook. Anybody questioning it will be censored, and the stupid dumbshit public will dumbly ask "well, how were we to know the truth", 5 years later, when they will fall for ANOTHER obvious scam.

WookieMan says

Get over Iraq

And Afghanistan.

And Libya.

And Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Ukraine, what's next?

It will be something and you dirty stupid cows won't see MAYBE this is ANOTHER trick. Imagine that, they only CONSISTENTLY lie. What could POSSIBLY give you a fucking hint? 20 years and you can't learn, what's 20 more?

Our criminal sociopathic government will let the disaster of Flint Michigan, Palestine Ohio, Maui, whatever continue and you'll, like braying sheep, will demand we have to something about whatever bullshit they MAKE UP, 10,000 miles away.

I am done with propaganda at this point, and I'm fed up with the stupid shitheads repeating it and disseminating it. These people, are either subhuman, or they embrace dishonesty.

NuttBoxer says

richwicks says

Nobody has ever threatened this nation, except the federal government.

Fixed it.

Federal government, domestic enemies, I see them as one in the same. Federal government is a subset. Plenty of traitors that work with them, the people that run Google, and Facebook for example. No big deal, we'll destroy them.