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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   436,021 views  4,263 comments

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3686   Patrick   2024 Mar 25, 9:31am  

richwicks says

Why do you think this is a dichotomy, that it has to be one or the other?


Yes, at this point, I think it was the CIA paying Muslims.

I do also think there is a lot of Jewish hatred for Russia, and this goes back a long way. For example, Jacob Schiff financed Japan in the Russo-Japanese war.
3687   richwicks   2024 Mar 25, 9:37am  

Patrick says

I do also think there is a lot of Jewish hatred for Russia, and this goes back a long way. For example, Jacob Schiff financed Japan in the Russo-Japanese war.


It might be long term hatred, but the immediate case is that Israel has been fighting Syria and wants to regime change that area, Russia is standing in the way and bombed ISIS directly, the US just pretended to do that, and Russia is allied with Iran.

Israel is filled with Jewish Russians as well, and not all of them work solely on behalf of Israel, lots of Russian spies there.

Patrick says

Jacob Schiff financed Japan in the Russo-Japanese war.


I didn't know that.
3688   Patrick   2024 Mar 25, 11:50am  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/in-blob-we-trust


Whatever else you think about the Russians, they are not dumb bunnies. You can be sure they are carefully putting together the puzzle pieces, having already been careful to take the suspects alive. They were, incidentally, all in one car driving toward the Ukraine border when apprehended by Russian police. That is being considered “a clue” as to who their handlers are. But then, who is Ukraine’s handler? (Cue: thinking music.)

At least one of them — Fariduni — confessed that his gang received all their instructions over a Telegram social media channel. The gang, by the way, were all natives of Tajikistan, a former Soviet republic. Its population is 98 percent Muslim, around 97 percent of them Sunni and 3 percent Shia. Neighboring Iran is militantly Shia, for what it’s worth. The four Crocus perps were living as immigrant workers in Russia. How hard would it be to track who was the proprietor of the alleged Telegram messaging site that offered payment and sent orders to the perps? I’m guessing that would not be so difficult.
3695   HeadSet   2024 Mar 25, 12:21pm  

Patrick says





The lobsters still have the bands on their claws.
3696   The_Deplorable   2024 Mar 25, 5:54pm  

A vigil for the victims of the Crocus City Hall attack



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ynFj1tigI
3697   Patrick   2024 Mar 25, 8:47pm  

https://paulserran.substack.com/p/watch-russia-retaliation-strike-sends


Russia Retaliation Strike Sends Hypersonic Missiles Into Kiev

Building Used by Security Service of Ukraine SBU Is Leveled



3698   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Mar 25, 11:49pm  

Hey look!

Nazi Ukies took out a bridge!

3700   Patrick   2024 Mar 26, 12:36pm  




I assume they mean criminal aliens when they write "migrants".
3706   Patrick   2024 Mar 27, 11:15am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/falling-down-wednesday-march-27-2024


The initial collision triggered a chain reaction as adjacent parts of the bridge quickly collapsed in sequence, running right down the line, dropping straight down like giant steel dominos.

As you know or could easily imagine, the hot takes are off the chain. And I’m talking about the official hot takes. Even before the crew was interviewed, the federal agencies and top federal officials like Biden and Buttigieg insisted the collision was one hundred percent accidental and it was not any kind of terrorist cyberattack, no way, no how, don’t even think that.

But the feds’ early, shrill, and repetitive denials of any outside agency just made doubters that much more suspicious. ...

So far what we know is that, as the Dali approached the bridge, its electrical system suddenly shut down. In other words, right at the worst possible time, it lost its engine power, electrical power, and steering and was adrift in a complete blackout.

Some videos seem to show the ship’s power going out twice, as though the crew tried to restart or reboot the power, but then it quickly shuts off again (0:56). It also looks like the ship cleared the bridge, but then the power went out (the second time) and it drifted back into the key pylon. ...

Why would anyone ever suspect a sudden, unexplained power outage at a critical moment could possibly be a cyberattack? I mean, come on people. Quit talking nonsense.

Miraculously, the crew sent out a “mayday” moments before the collision, and heroic Baltimore police frantically cleared the bridge, minimizing casualties. No recordings or transcripts of the mayday have been published that I could find. As of this morning, the only casualties were from a pothole repair crew that were plunged into the icy waters when the bridge collapsed.

It could have been much, much worse.

Believe it or not, the Francis Scott Key bridge is a critical part of the entire nation’s supply chain. Its catastrophic collapse cannot possibly be repaired for years. Officials are already talking about significant damage to our country’s supply chain, increased costs for consumer goods and energy, and so forth. It is not just an inconvenience. For a cascade of interrelated reasons, the destruction of this particular bridge was incalculably injurious to our economy.

One wild, random fact reported in CNN’s article was that thirteen vaguely-described shipping containers marked as unidentified CDC bio-hazmat were somehow damaged in the collision and are being “secured.” I’ll just leave that one right there.

USA Today reported, without explanation, that no Maersk personnel were on board at the time of the collision. Here’s where things really start to get weird. Something strange is going on with the reporting over the identity of the captain and crew: the media refuses to report their identity or even hint at it. The USA Today article even named a local, Andrew Middleton, who took the captain and crew shopping the day before. They named Andrew — the only guy who wasn’t on the boat — but none of the crew. Not one. Not even by first name. ...

If I were a betting man, I’d bet the feds invoked some kind of emergency media authority and told reporters not to talk about the crew. Otherwise I can’t explain why all the stories won’t say one way or the other whether the crew’s names are known. ...

It hasn’t even been a full day and for some reason Joe Biden is awake, medicated, and has already pledged to pay for the full cost of rebuilding the bridge. Why? Why did they wake up Joe? Why shouldn’t Maersk and the various insurers pay for the bridge that their boat crashed into?

Maybe the feds want to quiet the whole thing down, and the last thing they need is a bunch of lawsuits with cross-discovery and depositions and subpoenas and experts and inspections trying to figure out exactly what happened and who is to blame. I’m just saying. ...

Federal authorities were either crazy or lying when they ruled out a cyberattack. And corporate media is obviously collaborating to hide or obscure certain facts — like the crew’s identity — creating reason to be suspicious.

What else are they hiding?

Personally, these days I am automatically suspicious of any infrastructure disaster. We’ve seen the tit-for-tat strikes on our refineries and manufacturing plants. And just a few days ago, Moscow suffered a dreadful and tragic terrorist attack. Putin hinted that the US was involved. And then within a few days, a major bridge goes down. I also find it fascinating that the Russians are already mad at us for repeatedly trying to help Ukraine blow up the Russians’ key Kerch Bridge in Crimea.




3708   Onvacation   2024 Mar 27, 12:32pm  

Patrick says

Officials are already talking about significant damage to our country’s supply chain, increased costs for consumer goods and energy, and so forth.

Yeah. THAT'S what is causing inflation; that and Trump's policies.
3709   Patrick   2024 Mar 27, 12:49pm  

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/west-desperately-deflects-as-ukraines


The secret to decoding his already clear language is to understand that Borrell—like the rest of the Euro-technocrat mafia—is unelected by real citizens, but rather appointed by some faceless high commission.

Thus, when he says “we cannot afford for Russia to win this war” because it would be damaging to “our” interests, who might he possibly be referring to? The we is certainly not the people whom he doesn’t politically represent. It’s of course the rest of the comprador elite who control the upper layer of the world government apparatus, i.e. the financiers and banking elite. He’s speaking on their behalf.

Thus, he’s saying that the world banking cabal cannot afford Russia winning the war, because it would initiate a cascade of untold consequences for the monetary hegemonic web they’ve tentacularly enwreathed the entire globe in.
3710   Patrick   2024 Mar 27, 2:45pm  

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-leaders-ukraine-tukey-syria-caliphate-al-bara-shishani-a9211676.html


How Ukraine became the unlikely home for Isis leaders escaping the caliphate

Ukrainian authorities announced last week they had arrested a top Isis commander in Kiev in a joint operation with the CIA. He appears to be one of many to have made Ukraine their home, writes Oliver Carroll in Kiev

Thursday 21 November 2019


So there is a connection between Ukraine and ISIS going back more than 4 years.
3711   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Mar 27, 2:54pm  

Patrick says

So there is a connection between Ukraine and ISIS going back more than 4 years.


And is there a connection with the bridge and this?

Biden doesn't seem to want an independent insurance company investigation.
3712   richwicks   2024 Mar 27, 4:13pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

And is there a connection with the bridge and this?


The bridge is likely a legitimate accident. It is an old ship, it's not controlled by the Internet in any way - in order to pull this off, it would have had to been sabotage by the crew or somebody messing with the controls with a remote system of some sort weeks of not months ago.
3713   Ceffer   2024 Mar 27, 5:35pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Patrick says

So there is a connection between Ukraine and ISIS going back more than 4 years.

And is there a connection with the bridge and this?

Biden doesn't seem to want an independent insurance company investigation.

"No Ukranians were harmed in the collapse of this bridge."
3717   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Mar 29, 1:25am  




It's time to talk about the fall of Kiev - The Times

▪️Scottish columnist Ian Martin predicts the fall of Kiev by the summer in the absence of supplies of weapons and ammunition from the West.
▪️He is confident that the consequences of Ukraine's defeat will be a disaster for the West and calls on the British to prepare for the worst.
" It's July and the Russian army is at the gates of Kiev... As the Russians approach the capital, a new wave of refugees has left Ukraine seeking safety from the incessant bombing. Events are forcing military and civilian leaders in London, Washington, Paris and Brussels to plan for a catastrophic collapse of Ukrainian forces deprived of the weapons and ammunition they needed ," Martin writes.
3718   Patrick   2024 Mar 29, 10:34am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/three-ways-friday-march-29-2024-c


You’ll never believe it. There’s been more bad luck with the Dali and the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse. The Maritime Executive ran the story yesterday headlined “NTSB Releases "Black Box" Timeline of Baltimore Bridge Strike.”

The news is, after the Biden Administration and the FBI conclusively ruled out any terrorist involvement, the NTSB received the Dali’s black box, analyzed it, and found that the data from the one key minute never got recorded. It’s kind of like Nixon’s missing cassette tape section, or like how the Jeffrey Epstein suicide video cut off. ...

Oh well. Who needs that missing minute anyway? I suppose it doesn’t matter since they already know it wasn’t a cyberattack. And people, please, stop spreading misinformation that every time something bad happens it must be the result of a cyber attack. I don’t know how you guys could possibly get that idea.

Well, except for this (Wall Street Journal):



... How could we possibly get the idea that the Dali’s tragic and mysterious loss of electrical power and its computer systems, which also shut down its electronic black box recorder, just at the right time to cause maximum damage, how could that possibly be a cyberattack?
3720   WookieMan   2024 Mar 29, 2:55pm  

Patrick says

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1773414633053004191




I thought crypto was untraceable? Don't believe it either way. Any "news" or "government" report that comes out of a country at war I just assume is bull shit. No purpose in telling the truth.

I've war gamed what happened and I'm pretty sure I'm right. Russia should have smashed Ukraine. They haven't, but eventually will. Citizens are getting pissed. Recent election and you kill a bunch of dissenters in a known area for that. Sending a message. Then blame Ukraine. Don't worry, the US has done the same. This is just sooooooo obvious it's laughable.

Russia needs this to go away. If they have a boogie man excuse to use larger tactical weapons, they now have the excuse. And they will.
3722   richwicks   2024 Mar 29, 5:03pm  

WookieMan says

Citizens are getting pissed


No they aren't.

Russian citizens are just as stupid and dimwitted as US citizens. They don't care about the war. They care about the Ukraine war as much as Americans do. Russian casualty rates are VASTLY overblown in the West. I wouldn't be surprised if the kill ratio is 20:1 at this point but we'll only know when the war is over, because then propaganda won't be constantly shitted out.

There's no active movement at all, whatsoever, in Russia to end the war - IF THERE WAS our bullshit propaganda media would be splashing it all over the propaganda box. Our intelligence agencies can't even astroturf one.

This is a purposeful, slow, destruction not of just Ukraine but US unilateralism intended to harm Europe and the United States as much as possible. When this is over, Ukraine, what is left of it, will be deeply in debt and will be in austerity forever under the control of BlackRock and what not. At that point, the Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine MIGHT realize they've been duped and betrayed, maybe - but I doubt it.
3723   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Mar 29, 9:54pm  

See even Zelensky is now admitting that Ukraine is totally fucked!


3724   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 29, 11:06pm  

This thing is still going?
3725   Patrick   2024 Mar 30, 11:30am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/jock-itch-saturday-march-31-2024


It’s been a momentous week in the Proxy War. If you want a thoughtful, neutral take on the Moscow terrorist attack, former British diplomat and author Alistair Cooke wrote a piece for AlJazeera headlined, “The Crocus Concert Hall Atrocity: No Going Back.”

Cooke explained why the U.S. seems hell-bent on denying Ukraine involvement in the attack. It’s simple. If Ukraine is involved, and people find out, it could lead to loss of support for Kyiv...

As far as I can tell from publicly-available information, there are two main reasons why Russia suspects Ukraine was involved: that the terrorists were fleeing toward Ukraine, obviously expecting to be able to somehow cross the heavily-defended wartime border. And second, the Russians announced over the last couple days that they found emails and direct messages on the terrorists’ devices showing cryptocurrency payments received from Ukraine.

You could also add to those facts that Ukraine had motive and had opportunity. It seems very odd that, at this point, anyone would rule out Ukraine. ...

As for the war, things are not going well for Ukraine. Yesterday, the Washington Post ran a strange op-ed. It was strange because the op-ed was written by a Washington Post reporter, who had interviewed former comedian Zelensky for the story. ...

The … article? op-ed? ... included a threat, right in the very first paragraph:

"President Volodymyr Zelensky, the actor who became a wartime president, delivered a stark message to Congress in an interview on Thursday as Russian missiles were pounding southern Ukraine: Give us the weapons to stop the Russian attacks, or Ukraine will escalate its counterattacks on Russia’s airfields, energy facilities and other strategic targets."

Hmm. I get why Zelensky’s terroristic counterattacks would be a threat against Russia. But why were they also a threat against Congress? Is Zelensky tacitly admitting that the U.S.’s infrastructure is also at risk if Ukraine keeps attacking Russia’s infrastructure?

In other words, Zelensky seems essentially to be admitting that Russia blows up a U.S. refinery every time Ukraine blows up one of Russia’s refineries.

Which is what we’ve been saying all along.

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