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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   458,566 views  4,497 comments

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4365   goofus   2025 Feb 15, 11:55am  

Eric Holder says







It’s neocon copium. Trump’s “aid” means help rebuilding, not the weapons cache we falsely claimed was aid the last 3 years. And Blackrock’s grubby landgrab won’t go through either. Nor will ethnic ‘diversification’ of Ukraine now that they’ve killed a generation of young men. Nor will Zelensky’s greater Israel or war with Russia. Thank God adults are back in charge.
4366   DeportLibtards   2025 Feb 15, 10:00pm  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

This is why Macron is panicking:



4370   Patrick   2025 Feb 19, 3:04pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/pharmakeia-wednesday-february-19


Two things happened yesterday. First, the American and Russian negotiating teams met in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and agreed to general terms of a three-part plan. Second, Trump said stuff that wasn’t nice about Ukraine’s Martial Law Administrator and Venmo Glutton Volodymyr Zelensky.

Well, technically, three things happened. Also, Zelensky flew to Riyadh and tried to crash the meeting. I am not making that up. The Saudis politely invited him to return later. But that was just an awkward sideshow. ...

Speaking from Riyadh, Secretary of State Marco Rubio explained late yesterday that the negotiating teams had already nailed down the outlines of a three-part plan. First, the U.S. and Russia will re-establish diplomatic relations obliterated by the Biden Administration. For example, the mothballed Russian embassy in DC can re-open for normal diplomatic business.

Second, the US and Russia will explore brand new geopolitical and business opportunities together. Meaning, no more sanctions. And beyond that, it likely means new joint ventures, probably related to energy.

And third —last and least— they will discuss a structure to end the war in Ukraine. ...

“I hear that the Ukrainians are upset about not having a seat,” President Trump said. “Well, they’ve had a seat for three years. And a long time before that. This could have been settled very easily. Just a half-baked negotiator could have settled this years ago without, I think, the loss of much land, or very little land. Without the loss of any lives. And without the loss of cities that are now just laying on their sides.”

Trump —who himself just won the popular vote— also dismissed Zelensky’s approval rating as flatlining “around 4%,” He also seemed to endorse the Russian argument that Ukraine needs to have democratic elections. It was another weird turnaround; the corporate media are forced to defend not having elections and the dictator Putin is insisting that Ukrainians be allowed to vote.

Zelensky, of course, opposes holding elections in Ukraine.

Then Trump asked the reporters, “Where is all the money?” That question did not bode well for the Ukrainians.
4371   DeportLibtards   2025 Feb 19, 3:33pm  

Patrick says


Speaking from Riyadh, Secretary of State Marco Rubio explained late yesterday that the negotiating teams had already nailed down the outlines of a three-part plan. First, the U.S. and Russia will re-establish diplomatic relations obliterated by the Biden Administration. For example, the mothballed Russian embassy in DC can re-open for normal diplomatic business.

Second, the US and Russia will explore brand new geopolitical and business opportunities together. Meaning, no more sanctions. And beyond that, it likely means new joint ventures, probably related to energy.

And third —last and least— they will discuss a structure to end the war in Ukraine. ...


OMG! It's Niven's & Pournelle's CoDominium!

Rest of the world is FUCKED. Not just Ukraine.

CoDominium is a series of future history novels written by American writer Jerry Pournelle, along with several co-authors, primarily Larry Niven.

The CoDominium (CD) is a political alliance and union between the United States and the Soviet Union in Pournelle's fictional history. Formed to maintain planetary stability,
4386   AmericanKulak   2025 Feb 22, 5:12pm  

How to win friends and influence people:


4387   Patrick   2025 Feb 23, 9:12am  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/putin-was-right


The world is starting to realize that Ukraine was a massive psyop and money laundering operation.

Which means that Putin was kind of right about the whole Ukraine thing.

This is why the Deep State conditioned the world to believe everything Russia says is “disinformation”. They knew that Putin knew their schemes, so they weaponized nearly all media around the globe, via Soros’ USAID influence machine, to make the public believe anything Russia says is a lie.

In reality, it was all to cover up their own lies and criminality in Ukraine. This is why the MSM have been screeching about “Russian collusion” and “Russian disinformation” since around 2014. The Deep State knew that Putin knew, so they weaponized the media against him, the same way they did Trump.

You just lived through the most advanced information and propaganda war in human history. The people you have been taught to hate are actually the good guys, and the people you have been taught to worship are actually the most evil people on the planet.
4390   WookieMan   2025 Feb 24, 4:20am  

Patrick says





To be fair Putin is a dictator as well. If you're an executive in office for 20+ years, that's a dictator regardless of their bull shit elections. I think most would agree with this, I wouldn't want Trump in office for 20 years. Why? Everyone disengages and the guy in charge just gets to do what he wants.
4393   Patrick   2025 Feb 24, 10:22am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/blowback-monday-february-24-2025


Yesterday, the National Post ran an arresting story headlined, “Trudeau joining world leaders in Ukraine for summit on third anniversary of war.” It’s another emergency counter-summit! More talking! And, in Kiev. In the midst of the war. I guess this means they aren’t that worried about Putin, after all. One Oreshnik missile could take out Canada’s lame-duck Prime Minister and most pesky EU ministers.


Good point. Clearly Putin could do that, so why doesn't he?
4395   Eric Holder   2025 Feb 24, 6:03pm  

So, the great "Kyiv in 3 days" SCHMO has entered the 4th year of quagmire.

It'd be the equivalent of the US staging a massive invasion of Mexico, going all the way to Mexico City, then kicked out half of the occupied land, get Pacific Fleet sunk, suffer a million casualties, deploy donkeys and camels to the frontline, advance whopping 25 miles after a year and half of constant assult.... and then, on top of everything, Texas gets invaded and held by the enemy for 7 months (and counting), refineries being drone-bombed every night, Fed rate at 20%, mortgage rates at 42% (with 60% minimum downpayment).... and this is all according to plan!

Greated like liberators indeed.
4398   Patrick   2025 Feb 26, 9:55am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/binges-and-purges-wednesday-february


There’s no deal done yet. Zelensky is notorious for pulling out of deals, as the Russians have learned the hard way, more than once. But the Kyiv Post confirmed that a deal was agreed on, and Zelensky will come to Washington on Friday to sign. In response to a reporter’s question, President Trump said the mineral “and other” rights were to pay back the $500 billion that Ukraine already owes us— and the draft deal doesn’t include any additional military aid or security guarantees.

From what we can tell, it still sounds like a good deal for Ukraine. The Financial Times, which claimed to have seen the final agreement, reported that Ukraine would reluctantly pay income mineral mining into a fund to invest in projects in Ukraine. Like rebuilding the war-torn country, for instance. The U.S. would own a stake in the fund, with the precise terms to be worked out in future agreements.

But it seems clear that the money flow will reverse. Instead of America dumping cash into Ukraine, it will begin moving the opposite direction. Progress.

On Saturday, to wild mockery from corporate media, the Trump Administration said it expected a deal completed this week. They’re used to the speed of Biden.
4400   DeportLibtards   2025 Feb 26, 3:15pm  

Patrick says

There’s no deal done yet


There's no deal period. It's a worthless memorandum just like the Budapest Agreement.


4401   AD   2025 Feb 26, 4:04pm  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

There's no deal period. It's a worthless memorandum just like the Budapest Agreement.


It's the first step in the process. Wait and see what later comes to fruition.

Democrats and left wing authoritarians hope the war continues.

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