patrick.net

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/ukraine-conflict-civil-war-donbas-russia/

The answer is that this conflict is also a civil war between a majority that seek closer ties with the West and a significant minority that would rather be tethered to Mother Russia. It’s considered treasonous these days to frame the conflict as anything other than as a fight between “good and evil,” between authoritarianism and democracy.

Ceffer says

In 1991 Iraq, USA has fired 60,000 rounds for the entire gulf war.

Russia fires this in one day.

The NATO industrial base is not capable of such production numbers.

To me, this statistic makes Russia look even worse and more pathetic. Just a primitive 20th century army lobbing hundreds of thousands of unguided munitions into Ukraine with little strategic effect other than rubbling apartment buildings. Despite the overwhelming fire power and Russia being fucking right next door to the battle area, Russia has failed to move the front line in Eastern Ukraine all summer long.

If NATO were to really go big in a conventional way, Russia wouldn't stand a chance against modern Western weapons.

Sure Russia could fully mobilize, but so could the US and the rest of NATO. Russia's population is half that of the US and they have already burned through their most experienced and best equipped troops.

Meanwhile in Russia: a revealing look at the way Russian pundits and experts talk about Ukrainians, describing them as primitive, but cunning and two-faced villagers, devoid of their own national identity, too ignorant to grasp the Russian imperial need for territorial expansion.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1561455861696004098

Remember when the Agitprop Dailies and Lloyd (triple masked) Austin were declaring they were going to send weapons to Ukraine to grind down the firepower of Russia?

It appears the opposite is happening. Russia is grinding down the weapons reserves of the West.

Can you say 'Rebound Sanctions', flipped in reverse on the Western fools? Will this be known as the Great Ukraine Backfire Canard? Vodka glasses thrown into the fireplaces of Russia and laughter for years to come?

I'm so glad that we have such five dimensional brilliant chess players on our side, figuring out how to navigate us with such skill through world events, instead of plundering us like the chintziest and most criminal of fourth world barbarian monkies and throwing us into pointless wars. It makes one stand proud and tall with all the fags, cross dressers, and trannies in our government and military.

Ceffer says

Remember when the Agitprop Dailies and Lloyd (triple masked) Austin were declaring they were going to send weapons to Ukraine to grind down the firepower of Russia?

No, this is not what he said.

Ceffer says
It appears the opposite is happening. Russia is grinding down the weapons reserves of the West.


Well, good for them. Meanwhile, lend/lease hasn't even started yet.... Poor, poor West running out of weapon reserves.



PS. Did I sense another "change of plan of the Speshual Military Opereyshun which is going according to plan"?

"Thank you, Mother Russia, for giving us the premise to use all of our obsolete, moldy, half functioning and old weapons technology in value inflated loans to Ukraine so the lend/lease holds them in Babylonian debt slavery forever."

"We'll give you the address to send all the wheat for the next fifty years."

https://t.me/asbmil/4249

Before my eyes focused, for a second I thought that was the past 5 minutes in NYC with the red part being the Brooklyn-Queens Border and somebody used an AK around the Throg's Neck Bridge. Then I was like "Nah, Coney Island isn't that North-South."

Today Nikolaev, tomorrow New York City! And they say the Russians are losing.

https://gettr.com/post/p1oa4tfc701

Arnie1974
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Andrew Tate is the most Googled man in the world right now, it's no surprise they banned him from everywhere, because he drops straight talking truth bombs like this.

"Totally NATO's fault, kept poking the bear, kept poking the bear". "Now Russia retaliated, which they had no choice to do..."

Retaliated for what? Russia had no choice but to embarrass themselves to the world blundering their way into Ukraine and showing how primitive and weak their military might is? Getting tens of thousands of people killed along the way.....

What in the living fuck is this dude talking about? Was NATO poking Russia when Russia invaded and occupied Crimea under Obama's watch? Was NATO poking the bear when Russia invaded Georgia during the GWBush administration? Was NATO poking the bear when Russia was propping up shitbag's like North Korea, Syria, Iran with major weapons as they cause instability in Asia and the Middle East?

Jesus Christ, there are plenty of decent arguments against assisting Ukraine with weapons so they can defend themselves from Russia invaders, but why do we have so many people aping retarded history revisionism trying to portray poor Putin and Russia as their somehow victims?

socal2 says

Jesus Christ, there are plenty of decent arguments against assisting Ukraine with weapons so they can defend themselves from Russia invaders, but why do we have so many people aping retarded history revisionism trying to portray poor Putin and Russia as their somehow victims?

Look, the US has been harassing Russia for 2 decades now and have been lying about Russia at every, single, opportunity.

There's absolutely no effort at diplomacy. US foreign policy is to subvert Russia using very pathetic and transparent tricks and stupid propaganda. Remember the Skripal's? You know who died from that "attack"? Their 3 pets. Two gerbils and a cat. The gerbils died from lack of food and water, the cat survived for 3 weeks in the empty home (which people were going through BTW) but it was ignored, and when FINALLY it was picked up, it was so near death, they euthanized it.

And where are the Skripal's now?

US "diplomats" bitch and moan non stop about "Russian aggression", when the US is lying there way into wars in Iraq and Syria, bombing Libya that results in slavery markets being created and civil war. People are sick of this blatant hypocrisy.

The reality is the US doesn't give a shit about the Ukrainians, and they don't care how many of them die. This could have been handled diplomatically years ago, there's ZERO attempt at diplomatic solutions. When are sanctions by the US ever removed? The only time I see them removed is after the US goes to war. There's no point in co-operating with the United States because the United States won't co-operate, it's all just pretense. No matter what Iran does, for example, there's going to be sanctions. Same thing with Syria, and North Korea. Nothing they do will be "good enough", ever - and meanwhile the US public is fed a steady stream of bullshit to keep this going. "Oh Putler is evil!" - yeah, of course he is, he's a major leader. Duh.

richwicks says

Look, the US has been harassing Russia for 2 decades now and have been lying about Russia at every, single, opportunity.

As if Russia hasn't done the same? Russia is one of the biggest weapons suppliers in the world and has been causing instability all through Africa, Asia and the Middle East propping up shitbirds like Saddam Hussein, Assad, Ayatollahs, Castro bros, Chavez and North Korea.

richwicks says

This could have been handled diplomatically years ago, there's ZERO attempt at diplomatic solutions.

How so? Agreeing that Russia can keep Crimea after it's invasion and keep allowing Russia to chip away at Ukraine's Eastern border?

socal2 says

richwicks says

Look, the US has been harassing Russia for 2 decades now and have been lying about Russia at every, single, opportunity.

As if Russia hasn't done the same?

No, they haven't.
socal2 says

Russia is one of the biggest weapons suppliers in the world and has been causing instability all through Africa, Asia and the Middle East propping up shitbirds like Saddam Hussein, Assad, Ayatollahs, Castro bros, Chavez and North Korea.

Saddam Hussein was OUR guy. Russia has ALWAYS been on the side of Iran since the Iranian Revolution, or Iranian Hostage crisis, of 1979. Hussein was an ally with the US and it was with US support Hussein went to 8 years of war with Iran. When it was fought to a standstill, the US dumped their relationship.

The US is in Syria for multiple reasons. 1) steal oil from the Golan Heights with Genie Energy. 2) expand Israel's control over the Golan Heights. 3) Bonus is removing Russia's only middle Eastern base in Tartus.

Ayatollahs showed up because the US overthrew Iran's "democracy" in 1953 with Operation Ajax, and the regime was so oppressive, only religious lunatics were able to overthrow it. Everybody else was more interested in living than being tortured to death.

Chavez I understand less, but basically from what little I understand there's a divide between the European population and the Indian population, sort of a soft segregation I guess. Russia is just there because the US continues to sanction them, Venezuela needs to process the oil somewhere, and Russia can do it.

North Korea is just a rogue state that borders Russia and China, they have to deal with it.
socal2 says

richwicks says

This could have been handled diplomatically years ago, there's ZERO attempt at diplomatic solutions.

How so? Agreeing that Russia can keep Crimea after it's invasion and keep allowing Russia to chip away at Ukraine's Eastern border?

Crimea wasn't invaded. They had a Russian base there BEFORE the US overthrew Crimea.

Look, Russia wasn't going to give up that base, obviously. It's like the US won't give up their base in Guantanamo Cuba. Just isn't going to happen. You can argue the referendum was corrupt, you can argue it was unfair, whatever, Russia wasn't going to give that up. They actually had 2 referendums - first was do they want to remain part of Ukraine or not. The result was leave. The second was to become an independent nation or join the Russian Federation, the result was join the Federation.

Russia wouldn't be fucking with Ukraine's eastern border if there wasn't a US coup. Ukraine immediately went into conflict with the East and West once that coup happened and NATO has been supplying the West with weaponry and Russia was doing the same with the East. It all could have been avoided, by not overthrowing the nation.

I'm tired of US diplomats "fucking up" and keep getting promoted. US foreign policy is to be a fucking bull in a china shop.

richwicks says

Russia wouldn't be fucking with Ukraine's eastern border if there wasn't a US coup.

That I think everyone with a brain can agree with.

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

richwicks says

Russia wouldn't be fucking with Ukraine's eastern border if there wasn't a US coup.

That I think everyone with a brain can agree with.

There are literally people that deny, with a straight face, that the United States overthrew Ukraine.

JUST BECAUSE Victoria Nuland her phone tapped in a call between her and Geoffrey Pyatt discussing who was going to take over Ukraine 2 weeks and 4 days before the "revolution" that's don't necessarily mean the US was doing the coup...

https://dossier.substack.com/p/black-hole-as-billions-in-american

Black Hole: as billions in American arms and aid enter Ukraine, US officials receive hand written receipts
“Hand receipts, it’s all paper.”

Jordan Schachtel
2 hr ago
Ukraine is consistently ranked as one of the most corrupt governments in all of Europe. Given that reality, it might not come as much of a surprise that Kiev has no functioning mechanism to track the massive amount of inflows of American weapons and aid into the country. ...

In a Bloomberg article from the weekend titled, “Torrent of Cash for Ukraine Arms Puts Pentagon Watchdog on Alert,” an amazing bombshell comes via a quote in the story that seems to imply the opposite of the piece’s accountability theme.

A Pentagon official, Inspector General Sean O’Donnell, is quoted as saying that Ukrainian officials do their accounting of American equipment and aid with “hand receipts, it’s all paper.”

O’Donnell added that he doesn’t “think they have much fidelity” as to where the arms end up. ...

It’s worth recalling that CBS News recently caved to a pressure campaign & pulled its documentary examining the flow of arms and aid to Ukraine. In the original documentary, CBS News found that only 30% of arms shipped to Ukraine made it to the front lines, and a large chunk of inventory ended up in black markets around the world.

The news comes amid reports that active duty American service members are being relinquished of vital munitions — including high-tech weapons that are not easily replaced — so that these arms and ammo can be sent to Ukraine. Ignoring the troublesome supply chain issues, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has insisted upon draining American military stockpiles by a very significant percentage of overall inventory, rendering the U.S. military in a more vulnerable position.

The American military is being comprehensively disarmed to prop up the Biden Administration’s proxy war against Russia, and in the process of their pursuit of this skirmish, billions of dollars of weapons and aid are moving into a country with zero accounting or transparency mechanisms.

Patrick says

including high-tech weapons that are not easily replaced

What a pile of horse shit: munitions have shelf life and the stuff being transferred to Ukraine is reaching the end of it. We are talking basically 80s weapons: 155 howizers, AGM-88 HARM, HIMARS, etc. These were created and stockpiled back then to fight Russia and this is exactly what they are being used for.

And yes, they are easily replaced with new more advanced stuff because we still have manufacturing, thanks to our mighty MIC.

Sooo, was Kherson a feint from the get-go? Let's hear it while there is still time.

Just like always, BIden Actor is probably laundering old military inventory through Ukraine for them to sell on the black market with a kickback cut. Some of it winds up on the front lines to be blown up or seized by Russia. There are lots of vids of Russians thanking the USA for all the arms and equipment they have seized from fleeing Ukrainian troops.

Ceffer says

Just like always, BIden Actor is probably laundering old military inventory through Ukraine for them to sell on the black market with a kickback cut. Some of it winds up on the front lines to be blown up or seized by Russia. There are lots of vids of Russians thanking the USA for all the arms and equipment they have seized from fleeing Ukrainian troops.

Ah, so this is why they can't gain any significant ground for the last 2 months: too busy collecting all the 80s tech we throw at them...

MAKES TOTAL SENSE!

PS. I saw these videos: the Ruscists cunts standing in front of a pile of spent NLAW containers and "thanking Biden for sending them weapons" is pure comedy gold. They were sent to them, allright.

Cannon fodders will be cannon fodders:
https://t.me/asbmil/4456
https://t.me/asbmil/4469

Ceffer says

Cannon fodders will be cannon fodders:
https://t.me/asbmil/4456

So is Kherson a feint?

RWSGFY says

Ah, so this is why they can't gain any significant ground for the last 2 months: too busy collecting all the 80s tech we throw at them...

More likely they are just waiting for Europe to freeze. Time is on Russia's side. If Europeans leaders weren't all quislings, they would have dumped their alliance with the United States long ago.

With any luck, this will just quiet down to a standstill on both sides with minimal military action. Let the Europeans know their leaders are traitors through direct experience, and some frostbite.

Will Global Warming save Europe this winter? Only Al Gore knows for sure. LOL! Russians are extending the Russian Winter offense all the way to Europe.

Ceffer says

Will Global Warming save Europe this winter? Only Al Gore knows for sure. LOL! Russians are extending the Russian Winter offense all the way to Europe.

Doubt it, hot and humid summers often lead to wet and cold winters.

boys on a serious note, when im not openly trolling for funsies… we should pray for peace. wars are tragic, innocent lives lost by scores, pain that propaganda will never tell. turning to god for answers in the way. pray for peace in Ukraine and Russia.

Russian Iskander hits Los Angeles. Will these fiends never cease in their bloodthirsty depravities?
https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/72204

This was the extent of AFU's territorial 'success' in its battle of the bulge counter offensive, at a huge loss of life and equipment. Russia will take it back with ease.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-war-depleting-u-s-ammunition-stockpiles-sparking-pentagon-concern-11661792188

Ukraine War Is Depleting U.S. Ammunition Stockpiles, Sparking Pentagon Concern
The level of one type of combat rounds in storage is ‘uncomfortably low,’ says a defense official

WASHINGTON—The war in Ukraine has depleted American stocks of some types of ammunition and the Pentagon has been slow to replenish its arsenal, sparking concerns among U.S. officials that American military readiness could be jeopardized by the shortage.

The U.S. has during the past six months supplied Ukraine with 16 U.S. rocket launchers, known as Himars, thousands of guns, drones, missiles and other equipment. Much of that, including ammunition, has come directly from U.S. inventory, depleting stockpiles intended for unexpected threats, defense officials say.

Maybe disabling the US military is exactly the point. Pedo Potatus has already betrayed America to China and Ukraine, so it would be entirely in character.

Only the best for our Ukrainian friends. Thanks for the field testing...OOps, he was blown up by a Russian missile that actually worked.
https://t.me/asbmil/4498

Ceffer says

Only the best for our Ukrainian friends. Thanks for the field testing...OOps, he was blown up by a Russian missile that actually worked.

I'd be cautious with the reports, propaganda is rampant during war.

But I wouldn't be surprised. The MIC doesn't give a fuck if a war is won or lost, they just profit over the conflict. They don't give a damned if their shit works or not.

I started watching a documentary on the history of Al Qaeda. Goes all the way back to English control of the region and their founding of Saudi Arabia. Then goes into the transition to US being the power in the area. What really struck me was how often I heard the same rhetoric and plans I hear today concerning Ukraine. There is nothing new under the sun, and Ukraine is just one more example of imperialism and the NWO pulling strings to their own ends.

If you support the fighting going on, you support the globalist agenda, and have been seriously conned and misled.

NuttBoxer says

Then goes into the transition to US being the power in the area.

I don't think the result is necessarily what you say. Afghanistan is not under US control, and Iraq is slipping out and soon may slip out completely. SA is the onoly success story, and even then we can question as to who owns whom. One perhaps can extrapolate this to Ukraine.

Kherson IS a feint!

"Devastation in Kherson: Ukrainians' biggest losses since 2014 - "Scrap" 60 Polish tanks - Ukrainians hold Andreevka & Lozove with 2,000 dead

The biggest losses since 2014 and the battle in Ilovaisk are recorded by the Ukrainian Army with the entire Nikolaev-Kherson line of confrontation burning for the third day in a row. In 2014, in the region of Ilovaisk, Ukrainian forces were ambushed, losing 1,000 soldiers.
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