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And I am not saying that Ukrainians have won at this time. War can still last for a long time, but Ukrainians have extracted a huge price from Russians. What I thought at the beginning of the war was that if Ukrainians survive first week or two, this will turn into a prolonged bloodbath. I don't really know how Russians can respond to this counter-attack, other than lying to their population about it (which they do, planned retreat etc). Ukrainians are now near Donetsk airport and are encroaching on territories occupied in 2014, and are roaming around Belgorod district in Russia shooting up everything that moves. Fucking genius Putler...

"Ukraine Offensive Gains Approaching 2,500 Square Kilos. As Russian Troops Evacuate Eastward"
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=207279

https://nitter.net/newkc14/status/1568767911120064514#m
Translation for Patnet Ukraine specialists:

Success of Russian forces near Izjum. They were able destroy Putins' Chechen (pocket) forces who were placed there to prevent retreat of Russian army to Rusdian border.

Ceffer says

Evacuate

They are evacuated westward or underground

Eric Holder says

Did "officer, look at all the other speeders" ever worked to get anyone out of a ticket? Nope, never. Even if US somehow "overthrew" Ukraine (which is bullshit, btw)

It's when I read statements like this, when we have Victoria Nuland openly picking the next leader of Ukraine a week and 4 days before the revolution, that makes me just not believe you

You can't be so stupid as not to realize that Nuland predicting a revolution and planning who the next leader of Ukraine was, correctly, that it must mean the US was involved with the coup.

You're not stupid. You've been told this fact multiple times. You're lying, you're not making a mistake.

Denying the US overthrew Ukraine is as silly as denying water is wet. Ignoring the NAKED hypocrisy of the United States then appealing to my moral sensibilities with regard to what Russia is doing is just demonstrating you employ pricincples when it's convenient and ignore them otherwise. It just means you don't have any principles.

I used to get angry with people like you, but I no longer bother. You are either a propagandist , something that won't go away, or you have this much cognitive dissonance that you're insane . When the US starts shovelling Jews into ovens you'll defend it, while you condemn Nazi Germany.

Ukraine isn't a problem for Americans nor is Russia or Afghanistan or Iraq. America is America's problem. Nothing has been done to improve the US government for 30 years. Foreign wars are just cover for corruption.

I thought the lend/lease was supposed to start in October...

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1568685029210947584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1568141817568284672

Bigga badda bite taken out of Russian occupied zones:

Ceffer says

Ukraine Offensive Gains Approaching 2,500 Square Kilos. As Russian Troops Evacuate Eastward

8500 sq km as of yesterday according to Rusdian MOD

Bd6r says

Ceffer says

Ukraine Offensive Gains Approaching 2,500 Square Kilos. As Russian Troops Evacuate Eastward

8500 sq km as of yesterday according to Rusdian MOD

Noooooooo!

Even Wagner mouthpiece now agrees that Putin and his generals are stupid cunts:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1568524159675781120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Laughs at all the copium bullshit like "mercenaries!" and "we killed them all and destroyed all their equioment 20x over" and such.

He's joined by Russian military reporter group Rybar:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1568579775966466049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Unless this is somekind of Cauldron creation attempt, this looks like shit for the Russian military.

I'm very unimpressed.

AmericanKulak says

I'm very unimpressed.

Have you been impressed with anything Russia has done since they invaded Ukraine earlier this year?

I've been shocked at how poorly they have performed since the first week of fighting.

Russia is right next door with endless energy resources and what was once considered a large and modern military - yet they can't manage logistics, supply lines let alone dominating the airspace.

jykiodfgr says

The whole region is about to become a killing field.

As opposed to holiday destination it was for last 6 months?
I am sure losing 50K troops and having to reactivate 1960 vintage T62 tanks are all parts of a master plan by Putler the Great.

Is this AFU 'Battle of the Bulge'? Russians are blowing up everything and going for infrastructure.

"Kalibr’s in all directions from Russian Navy"

I guess the gloves are off. Russians fighting a war without attacking essential infrastructures is canceled. Ukraine has two months before the cold season?

"Russian Armed Forces missiles start decimating Kharkov. Residents in panic as they can’t see shit"

https://t.me/asbmil/5070

"Ukraine’s air raid alarm map warning system stops working"

Belgorod, Ukraine, without power:

https://t.me/rian_ru/177422

Or is it Russia?

Russians unveil new secret weapon:

socal2 says

I've been shocked at how poorly they have performed since the first week of fighting.

I'm not. The only time that Russia has done particularly good was in late WW2, and with massive amounts of aid from the USA. The Russo -Japan war if 1905, the Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939, and the Polish - Soviet war of 1919 -1921 are what I consider to be typical performance of the Russian army.

Even Ruscist TV propagandists are starting to run low on copium:

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569070513909022720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

jykiodfgr says

Human survival in the Kharkov region will soon become impossible.

Also, 0 natural gas transit through Ukraine starting from September 11 2022 until after the conquest of EU.

Around 20:00, the RF Armed Forces launched rocket attacks on the largest thermal power plants in eastern and central Ukraine

the footage shows the defeat of the thermal power plant in Zmiev.

The collapse of the energy system spread to the networks of Kharkiv, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye and Odessa regions.

Ah, the SOP of a terrorist state: can't do anything to the opposing military - hit civilians.

The designation is long overdue. Why the fuck Blinken is continuing to waffle on this?

RWSGFY says

Ah, the SOP of a terrorist state: can't do anything to the opposing military - hit civilians.

This is also typical Russian behavior. They can't conquer the place, so destroy it. We need to give Ukraine long range cruise missiles so that they can destroy the factory that makes Russian cruise missiles. Or destroy power plants around Moscow and St Petersburg.,

Bd6r says

Belgorod, Ukraine, without power:

https://t.me/rian_ru/177422

Or is it Russia?

Actually, Belgorod should be Ukraine. At least it was in 1918

THERE IS NO PANIC! IT IS AN ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL, OR, IN OTHER WORDS, NEGATIVE OR INVERSE ATTACK!

https://nitter.cz/OSINTua/status/1568890687248023554#m

MORALE OF RUSSIAN TROOPS IS AT ITS HIGH!

https://nitter.cz/TheDeadDistrict/status/1569309229215027207#m

RUSSIAN TROOPS DEPRIVE UKRAINE OF BULLETS WITH THEIR BODIES:

https://nitter.cz/Blue_Sauron/status/1569022767131131904#m

Note that attackers don't use full auto which I find interesting.

Perhaps a more precise expression would be "Putin, who started the Ukraine war, is to Rayethon....etc"

Patrick says

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg

Patrick says

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

jykiodfgr says

Kek, Putin is becoming more redpilled by the day.

More like himarsed right into his rubber ass.

jykiodfgr says

PS. BUT THE VILLAGE OF STUDENOK IS STILL UNDER RUSSIAN CONTROL AND THIS IS ALL THAT MATTERS!!!!!

jykiodfgr says

Kek, Putin is becoming more redpilled by the day.

Not really. It's dropped out of the mainstream narrative, it's being ignored now, so this is acceptance that Russia will win this conflict.

Did you know the US is still bombing Syria? Or there is an ongoing conflict of Iraq? It's not reported because it's expected it will be a loss.

In 1 year from now, nobody will remember (or admit) there was "Slava Ukraini". Our media (our propaganda) goes silent and lets the lemmings forget when the US federal goons fuck up. This is another fuck up.

But time will tell. Russia hasn't committed serious resources to this conflict, or so I am told. I am comfortable realizing both "sides" are lying to me. The current claim is that in the Ukraine/Russian conflict, there are 3 Ukrainians against 2 Russians, and there are so many Russians in the military, they are constantly rotating them.

We'll see how this ends in time, but I don't see Ukraine winning, but we'll see.

richwicks says

Russia will win this conflict.

Timeline and criteria of victory, plz. I love predictions.

Bd6r says

THERE IS NO PANIC! IT IS AN ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL

Why do you still trust Western "media"?

You know they lie to you constantly, why do you expect them to tell you the truth now? I am always confused by how people can't understand our "news" media is propaganda.

richwicks says

Bd6r says

THERE IS NO PANIC! IT IS AN ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL

Why do you still trust Western "media"?

You know they lie to you constantly, why do you expect them to tell you the truth now? I am always confused by how people can't understand our "news" media is propaganda.

Wait, Konashenkov is Western media now? When have he flipped? (I agree that he's a liar and a propagandist, btw).

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Bd6r says

THERE IS NO PANIC! IT IS AN ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL

Why do you still trust Western "media"?

Wait, Konashenkov is Western media now?

Who is Konashenkov? Show me something this person said 10 years ago, or longer ago.

Why do you believe this person is real? Remember Ahmed Chalabi? That was the vector for supporting the Iraq war. Why do you believe that Konashenkov isn't another Ahmed Chalabi?

What I'm really asking is, why can't you learn from history, why do you keep making the same mistake? You are smarter than this, and the only way you couldn't be smarter than this, is if you're an active propagandist. I don't think you're stupid, but I suspect you have no ethics at all.

richwicks says

Who is Konashenkov? Show me something this person said 10 years ago, or longer ago.

Spokeperson of RF AF, of course. The guy who said that Ruscist forces are conducting "orderly withdrawal". The exact stuff you reacted to so angrily. =)) As for the 10 years ago I'm confident in your google-fu skills - you'll find it.

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Russia will win this conflict.

Timeline and criteria of victory, plz. I love predictions.

Bueller?

richwicks says

Why do you still trust Western "media"?

You know they lie to you constantly, why do you expect them to tell you the truth now? I am always confused by how people can't understand our "news" media is propaganda.

How do you know which media I follow? And while we are at it, why would I read second-hand accounts and 'tarded analysis which appear in Western media (for example, it was Western media at the start of Russian invasion that parroted idea that Ukrainians will fold in weeks)?

I read news in Russian and Ukrainian mostly, and TRY to read in Polish although that language is too different from Russian so I have trouble understanding it.