patrick.net

Good links to see maps/TOEs/OOBs from Ukr-Rus fight?

Please no brazenly biased sources either way.

richwicks says

I envy your faith, but it's impossible for me. It's said that that the first sip from the cup of natural science makes one an atheist, but at the bottom of the cup, God awaits. I'm still drinking, but it's quite a large drink. If I finish that cup, I don't think I'll find what you believe in. I think I'll find what I believed in at 3, seriously. I think if there is a God it's innate in us, and it's perverted through organized religion. We don't have to be taught it, we're born with it.

I wish you the best of luck.

For me, it was Neo-Spontaneous Generation and comprehending that a Cell Membrane/Wall, An energy and digestive system to power the building of it, and some kind of primitive RNA/DNA system would have to have arisen simultaneously in the exact same place and time, and the details about amino acids and chirality.

Monkeys typing out Shakespeare doesn't capture the fact that the typewriter, letters, and English language are required just to give the monkeys a chance to evolve the Complete Works.

May the eureka moment happen some way to you (this is not intended to be sarcastic or condescending)

komputodo says

It couldn't have been a missle?

It could have been a missile, but why waste a plane of victims?

komputodo says

And how about the 4th plane that crashed into the forest and buried itself? lol

I think flight 93 was headed toward WTC7.

I don't know of course, but if it ran into WTC7, that would explain that hole.

komputodo says

PeopleUnited says

It won’t end until US stops meddling or Ukraine decides enough people have died

It won’t end until US decides to end it. Ukraine doesn't have a say in the decision.

Well when they run out of bodies for the meat grinder that pretty much ends it.

richwicks says

Bombshell filing: 9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits

Either the planes flew themselves into their targets or Muslims flew them into their targets on a suicide mission.

I still would like to know why anyone believes the CIA could recruit a bunch of Muslims to carry out an American false flag attack that would clearly cause retaliation against other Muslims. What is the motive for the suicide attackers?

PeopleUnited says

Well when they run out of bodies for the meat grinder that pretty much ends it.

you mean when the usa stops funding mercs?

PeopleUnited says

Either the planes flew themselves into their targets or Muslims flew them into their targets on a suicide mission.

refresh my memory please...what proof is there that muzzies did it?

komputodo says

refresh my memory please...what proof is there that muzzies did it?

They have the hijackers on multiple cameras. There's video throughout the Muslim world celebrating.

Also the widespread celebrations. It's what made Fjordman into a Culture Warrior, he was a Norwegian Student, good Democratic Socialist, studying Arabic when massive celebrations were unleashed on the streets of Cairo and he was invited to parties with cakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOp-TiG_Nug
Bush was very concerned about anti-Muslim sentiment, and that indeed there was a private charter flight of Saudis allowed out of the USA. They originally lawyer-lied by saying "No Commercial Flights" as a deliberate half-truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rkmIAnfDVY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UucjbGmJILk

There's evidence going way on back.

My personal belief is that they knew and somebody interposed to stop any close monitoring or intervention. Also, the fib has traditionally goofed things they were supposed to be keeping tabs on, or found scapegoats, like the Egyptian Air Force Officer in WTC #1. I think there was one case after 911 where they had the Fibs watching a guy closely and the agent fell asleep eating pistachios or something and the guy made it to Midway and on the plane undetected.

Finally, @patrick put up something about the Saudi Safehouse in LA a few months back, if I recall right.

komputodo says

PeopleUnited says

Well when they run out of bodies for the meat grinder that pretty much ends it.

you mean when the usa stops funding mercs?

Well yes, that is part of the problem, but supposedly Ukraine is an independent nation capable of self determination. If they admit that it is not an independent nation, the need for fighting for sovereignty vanishes.

komputodo says

PeopleUnited says

Either the planes flew themselves into their targets or Muslims flew them into their targets on a suicide mission.

refresh my memory please...what proof is there that muzzies did it?

Perhaps the reason people like Richwichs spread misinformation and foment hatred of our government is because that is what they are paid/trained to do.

If you don’t believe Muslims took control of those planes you might as well believe Richwichs and his crew did.

The events of 9/11 are horrific, but just like with Covid 19 the response to the alleged danger was worse than the danger itself.

9/11 was a failure of the FBI and by extension the government as a whole, but it was a success for the Satanic globalists in their ongoing quest to control and enslave the world. They know they cannot take America by force, so they resort to terrorism (real and imagined) viruses (real and imaginary) imaginary climate “science”, culture wars, race Baiting, religious wars (real and imagined) and financial crisis to weaken our nation with division and 10,000 cuts. And people who foment hatred of the government play right into the globalists hands.

Our founding fathers knew the only way to secure freedom on this continent was to have a government that could protect that freedom. Don’t tear that government down, fix it!

komputodo says

PeopleUnited says

Either the planes flew themselves into their targets or Muslims flew them into their targets on a suicide mission.

refresh my memory please...what proof is there that muzzies did it?

Multiple people on the doomed flights (including the plane that hit the Pentagon) called home to their loved ones and/or left voice messages saying Arabs hijacked the planes.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bombshell-court-filing-reveals-troubling-cia-links-two-911-hijackers

mell says

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bombshell-court-filing-reveals-troubling-cia-links-two-911-hijackers

I think all this report shows is CIA/government incompetence, not that the CIA was somehow orchestrating 9/11. Then we had the woke policies of everyone in our government and Media after 9/11 bending over backwards to not and try to demonize Islam and our past and present relations with the Saudis and Afghani mujs.

A lot of the Afghanis we helped in the 80’s against the Soviets double crossed us by joining the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

richwicks says

Bombshell filing: 9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits

Fucking told you.

If you watched Corbett's series on 9/11, you would have already known this.

socal2 says

I think all this report shows is CIA/government incompetence,

My take is that the CIA/government knew about the planned attack (similar to how the government knew about the planned attack on Pearl Harbor prior to December 7, 1941). Perhaps the powers that be even put explosives in place at the target sites (just like in OKC) to make the damage greater, but the suicide bombers were real Muslims, recruited by Islamic radicals, and allowed into our country through combinations of incompetence and deliberate facilitating of terrorism. All to further the globalists agenda, establish the patriot act and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

More potential for liberation in Belgorod:

More than 3,000 people have been evacuated from their homes in the Russian city of Belgorod after an undetonated explosive was found.

It comes two days after Russia accidentally dropped a bomb on the same city, damaging houses and injuring several people.

It's not known if the bomb discovered on Saturday came from the same aircraft - a Russian Sukhoi-34 fighter-jet.

BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE SAFE FROM COVID ...ERR... NAZIS NOW!!!

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Bombshell filing: 9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits

Either the planes flew themselves into their targets or Muslims flew them into their targets on a suicide mission.

I still would like to know why anyone believes the CIA could recruit a bunch of Muslims to carry out an American false flag attack that would clearly cause retaliation against other Muslims. What is the motive for the suicide attackers?

There's no reason that the Muslims even KNOW they've been recruited by the CIA. To be part of a conspiracy, you don't need to know you're part of a conspiracy. A common example is that some mentally ill guy gets recruited by the FIB to do some terrorist attack, not realizing he will be "captured" before it happens, and will be used to continue to justify the Patriot Act, the FIB, etc - all the things they were trying to retaliate against.

Direct action doesn't work but that's now what we see on teeeeveeeee and film - is it? At the end of the film, somebody goes KABOOM, and the world is saved, and the bad guys defeated! We saw that in V for Vendetta, we've done it in nearly every science fiction film as of late, it happened in Fight Club, The Running Man, Death Race 2000, etc.

Just take out the right thing, and the world complete changes - when has that ever happened? If I could literally blow up the Federal Reserve and a bunch of other key infrastructure buildings, it wouldn't change anything. If I could snap my fingers and 1000 people which I carefully chose (and intelligently picked) disappeared from existence from one day to the next, it would change nothing.

Just continue bitching on the internet and that will change everything.

Coincidental timing?

Airmen started posting classified documents a year ago. Just days after Special Military Operation in Ukraine started.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/airmans-leaks-started-just-48-hours-after-russia-invaded-ukraine

https://babylonbee.com/news/man-avoids-irs-audit-by-labeling-all-his-venmo-transactions-payments-to-ukraine

More Russian losing.

https://www.reuters.com/world/chinas-xi-says-he-will-send-representatives-ukraine-hold-talks-crisis-2023-04-26/

Xi told Zelenskiy that China would send special representatives to Ukraine and hold talks with all parties seeking peace, Chinese state media reported.

Xi, the most powerful world leader to have refrained from denouncing Russia's invasion, made a state visit to Moscow last month. Since February, he has promoted a 12-point peace plan for Ukraine, greeted sceptically by the West but cautiously welcomed by Kyiv as a sign of Chinese interest in ending the war.

America has fucked up so completely and so horribly under Biden that China is now taking charge of peace talks in Ukraine.

This is all the result of the massively fraudulent 2020 election.

Don't forget 20 years of disastrous Middle East policy, sticking our nose into conflicts in Korea and SE Asia that were none of our business, and countless mistakes at home from 9/11, to OKC, to Waco, and all the way back to Fort Sumter.

I'd say our government has had it coming for a while...

I agree, the US Deep State has been messing with other countries for a long time, but usually with a bit more competence.

Under Bidet, the incompetence is staggering. Simply stealing all of Russia's American assets? Didn't they think how that would look to other countries?

Cutting off Russia from international payment systems? Didn't they think that it would spur the creation of alternatives?

Blowing up Nordstream? Didn't they think that maybe Germany would be a bit annoyed at having a major source of their energy obliterated?

All imperialists eventually suffer the same fate. Extreme arrogance, coupled with laziness, corruption. Rome always falls from within first.

Patrick says

America has fucked up so completely and so horribly under Biden that China is now taking charge of peace talks in Ukraine.

No, the US criminal syndicate wants war with Ukraine. The US isn't ever going to negotiate peace.

This is standard operating procedure. The US doesn't even set conditions either for war OR for peace. What would have constituted "winning" in Afghanistan so that war could end?

NOBODY knows..

A call for some resources that aren't Kiev Post or Sputnik, but a little less biased.

Rumors of a UKRAINIAN offensive starting soon.

Russians crossed the railway in Bakhmut.

Boring war of position/attrition right now.

Patrick says

https://www.reuters.com/world/chinas-xi-says-he-will-send-representatives-ukraine-hold-talks-crisis-2023-04-26/

Xi told Zelenskiy that China would send special representatives to Ukraine and hold talks with all parties seeking peace, Chinese state media reported.

Xi, the most powerful world leader to have refrained from denouncing Russia's invasion, made a state visit to Moscow last month. Since February, he has promoted a 12-point peace plan for Ukraine, greeted sceptically by the West but cautiously welcomed by Kyiv as a sign of Chinese interest in ending the war.

America has fucked up so completely and so horribly under Biden that China is now taking charge of peace talks in Ukraine.

This is all the result of the massively fraudulent 2020 election.

it’s bewildering to me. we the people didn’t vote for this shit, yet here we are being ruled and told. anti war hippies in the 60s were right about something that’s for sure.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/on-war-and-wars/

Ukraine is the last in a string of hapless military adventures that has exhausted America’s credibility in the world, especially as regards our military superiority. (Think: Russia’s Kinzhal hypersonic missile.) There will be many unexpected consequences of that failure. One will be the crack-up of NATO, which has only been a false front for American military power. Germany couldn’t fight its way out of a duffle bag with what it’s got, and it is supposedly Europe’s leading economic power. The sad truth is that it will stop being any kind of power without the cheap Russian Natgas it was running on, and later this year Germany will be in a panic to try and restore its horribly damaged trade relations with Russia to get that natgas. Since NATO’s essential mission is to oppose Russia on everything, that will be the end of NATO.

Patrick says

Ukraine is the last in a string of hapless military adventures that has exhausted America’s credibility in the world, especially as regards our military superiority. (Think: Russia’s Kinzhal hypersonic missile.)

The continued Russian military embarrassment in Ukraine is exhausting "America's credibility" and not Russia's?

The Ukraine debacle is 100% Bidets.

Putin would not have even considered pulling this shit with Trump as commander in chief.

Put a senile weasel in charge of the worlds superpower, what did you expect? Give him 4 more years and we likely won’t survive the decade.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/retconning-saturday-april-29-2023

The psy-operators deploy the same “bad person” accusations against us, over and over, rinse and repeat, and fight most fiercely at the questioning stage.

For example, if you question the Proxy War, then of course you are a heartless maniac who doesn’t care about poor, downtrodden Ukrainians, just like that fascist Putin. If you wonder whether that’s really a chick or maybe it’s actually a boy, then you are a shameful, intolerant transphobe, a disrespecter, who enjoys mentally torturing defenseless dysphorics. Or, if you question mask science, you are LITERALLY killing grandma, how dare you.

Patrick says

The psy-operators deploy the same “bad person” accusations against us, over and over, rinse and repeat, and fight most fiercely at the questioning stage.

Institutionalized Borderline Personality Disorder. The fake or drug induced emotions dictate the delusional 'reality'. Remember, when they have absolute power, they just line these people up against the wall and open fire. To the psychopaths, emotions are a tool.

Ceffer says

Patrick says

The psy-operators deploy the same “bad person” accusations against us, over and over, rinse and repeat, and fight most fiercely at the questioning stage.

Institutionalized Borderline Personality Disorder. The fake or drug induced emotions dictate the delusional 'reality'. Remember, when they have absolute power, they just line these people up against the wall and open fire. To the psychopaths, emotions are a tool.

It’s the 2 minutes of hate stretched out for every news cycle.

Russia still losing so bigly.

https://t.me/STFNREPORT/23287

Excellent interview of Scott Ritter, former UN Weapons Inspector. Paints a very realistic picture of Ukraine's true situation:

Scott Ritter: Ukraine's In MAJOR TROUBLE Right Now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLvqPyC0yk

RayAmerica says

Excellent interview of Scott Ritter, former UN Weapons Inspector. Paints a very realistic picture of Ukraine's true situation:

Scott Ritter: Ukraine's In MAJOR TROUBLE Right Now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLvqPyC0yk

Although I think Ukraine can't possibly win against Ukraine, and I respected Scott Ritter 20 years ago, I would caution you about his thinking.

I think he's compromised. He was prosecuted for "sexual offenses" in relation to a minor. He may have been setup, but be cautious with him. He did time for that. Anybody can be compromised, and those that can't, they get bullets in their head.

He makes the obvious point, if Russia really was fighting an actual war, they would have destroyed Kiev, killed Zelensky and crippled the government of Ukraine. It’s not a war. There is fighting and killing, but it is not a war.

PeopleUnited says

He makes the obvious point, if Russia really was fighting an actual war, they would have destroyed Kiev, killed Zelensky and crippled the government of Ukraine. It’s not a war. There is fighting and killing, but it is not a war.

Short of using nukes, does Russia really have the capability of destroying Kiev, killing Zelensky and crippling the Ukrainian government?

I am pretty sure killing Zelensky (at least forcing him into exile) and toppling the Ukrainian government was one of Putin's main goals when they invaded Ukraine last year. Why else did Russia send all those tank columns to Kiev in the first months of the war?