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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   432,689 views  4,184 comments

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2889   richwicks   2023 Sep 30, 9:16pm  

iwog2 says

Last weekend, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan privately told McConnell that it would be impossible to sustain Ukraine’s fight against Russia for the next month and a half without additional funding. Not including more aid in the CR would impose significant financial and symbolic harm on Ukraine’s government, they warned.


https://punchbowl.news/article/senate-republicans-overrule-mcconnell/

See? Proof that Starve The Beast really does work.


It's likely the United States will "encourage" the EU to temporarily fund Ukraine, and make up for it in some other way.

This war won't end for at least another year, and I expect it to go on for several.
2890   Ceffer   2023 Oct 1, 9:10am  

Formidable NATO strikes again.
2894   Onvacation   2023 Oct 2, 5:10pm  

What exactly did Hunter do for Burisma.
2895   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Oct 2, 5:12pm  

Onvacation says

What exactly did Hunter do for Burisma.



Middleman for the Ukies & The Big Guy
2897   Patrick   2023 Oct 4, 12:10pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/border-wars-wednesday-october-4-2023


Finally, in more bad news for the corrupt oligarchy of Ukraine and its flagging battle to protect its borders, which have been overrun by illegal Russian migrants, Russia Today ran a story yesterday headlined, “EU fails to unblock €5 billion aid to Ukraine.”

After Hungary vetoed the vote on the current aid package, E.U. ministers promised they will try again next year. Oh well. The Counteroffensive is almost over anyway.
2900   Patrick   2023 Oct 4, 11:16pm  

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-10423-the-beginning-of-a-long


In the West, top officials are actively speaking on how Putin plans to “fatigue” the West into giving up on Ukraine, while Russian officials like Medvedev are openly admitting to this fact, and stating that the West will give up on Ukraine soon.

The West has never looked weaker, not only in general, but specifically vis a vis their support for Ukraine. All of their recent attempts at portraying a unified front look increasingly hollow and desperate. The facade is literally falling apart before our very eyes, showcased most poignantly in this Sky News interview with Ukrainian MP Lesia Vasylenko, which was taken down soon after because of how inconvenient her “slip ups” were in admitting that Russia is winning the war...


Nuland and Blinken thought they were going to weaken Russia by drawing it into an endless quagmire, but the result is looking like the opposite, with the US getting weaker because the war keeps dragging on.
2903   Patrick   2023 Oct 5, 8:27am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/benedict-a-thursday-october-5-2023


Politico ran a story yesterday that should really tell us everything we need to know headlined, “Ukraine is ‘freaking out’ as McCarthy chaos threatens US aid.” Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchs are worrying that the money train has reached its final destination.

Politico summarized the problem in one short paragraph:

"McCarthy’s historic ousting — no other U.S. House speaker has been deposed before — (came) after Congress voted through an emergency domestic funding package to avert a government shutdown. That deal, a stop-gap 45-day budget to keep the government running, featured no aid to Ukraine.
Now that McCarthy is out, all future U.S. funding for Kyiv is in limbo."

Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchs in were badly triggered by McCarthy’s removal. “We are freaking out. For us it is a disaster,” said Ivanna Klympush-Tsintsadze, a senior Ukrainian MP who chairs the committee on the country’s integration with the European Union.

The article stopped short of coming out and saying explicitly McCarthy is sitting in Ukraine’s breast pocket. Instead it framed the story as uncertainty over who McCarthy’s replacement will be. Ominously, Politico reported that “the Ukrainian government insists it has built constructive relationships with most potential replacements for the speaker’s post and is continuing to work with American lawmakers on the next package of aid.”

The bottom line is, the Ukrainians are upset that McCarthy is gone. Somebody start keeping track; that’s a “plus one” in the Gaetz column.
2904   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Oct 5, 9:35am  

NATO members now shooting at each other:


2905   Patrick   2023 Oct 6, 7:01pm  

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-top-ten-dumbest-things-empire?publication_id=82124&post_id=137722918&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz


When you live under an empire that’s held together by lies, you’ll be asked to believe a lot of intensely stupid bullshit. Here are the top ten dumbest things the propagandists of the US-centralized empire try to get us to swallow.

1. That the US war machine has been surrounding its top two rivals China and Russia with war machinery as an act of defense, rather than an extremely provocative act of aggression.

2. That the war in Ukraine simultaneously (A) was completely unprovoked, and (B) just coincidentally happens to massively advance US strategic interests and therefore should be funded as much as possible.

3. That, okay, all those other wars were based on lies and resulted in disaster, but that couldn’t possibly be the case for this current war.

4. That your country’s foreign policy is determined by your official elected government, even though the foreign policy remains the same regardless of who is in office.

5. That it is only by pure coincidence that your nation’s population remains in a perpetual 50–50 deadlock which prevents anyone’s votes from changing the status quo, and the status quo just happens to be perpetually frozen along lines that hugely advantage the rich and powerful.

6. That the only reason anyone could possibly be critical of the most dangerous impulses of the world’s most powerful and destructive government is if they are a secret agent working for the enemies of that government.

7. That the western empire which spent the last two decades murdering Muslims in the Middle East suddenly cares very deeply about the Muslims in China.

8. That Putin invaded Ukraine solely because he is evil and hates freedom, and that the empire is pouring weapons into Ukraine because it loves Ukrainians and wants to protect their freedom and democracy.

9. That foreign propaganda and influence operations are significantly manipulating the way westerners think and vote, but the plutocrats who fully control all the most influential platforms in the western world are not.

10. That we need to be worrying about tyrannical enemies in Beijing and Moscow, instead of tyrannical enemies a lot closer to home.
2906   Ceffer   2023 Oct 6, 7:09pm  

Foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC press ganged by Globalist neocons to fight their ancient rivalry Satanic wars in Eurasia as if it matters here. Our resources have been parasitically deployed. Take away their money printing presses and criminal enterprises, the murderous evil runs out of gas on its own, one would hopium?
2910   richwicks   2023 Oct 7, 8:05pm  

The_Deplorable says






I don't know why people even care what the corporate media says. All they do is lie. It's impossible to get accurate, much less, useful information from the legacy media. Imagine believing any of the bullshit they print.
2912   Patrick   2023 Oct 7, 10:34pm  

Another lucky Ukrainian volunteers to fight for democracy.

https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1710755626844934292

2913   richwicks   2023 Oct 8, 3:51am  

PedoIwog says







It's all about spending money, not winning conflicts. The only goal in war is to spend money for the United States. US wars have no objectiveness or goals. The US is bombing Syria, Yemen, and Somalia right now - what is the purpose - what is the goal?

It is infuriating to me that people don't even notice. None of you know, and I know this to be true, because I want to know, and I've looked for it, and there is no answer. I've tried to find out, an none of you have the answer, so there's no possibility you can know. You are too timid and arrogant to admit your ignorance. Nobody knows, you're not alone. Arrogance of people is the enemy of us all. It's bred into us, inculcated into us. I'm a victim too, I just recognized it.

The obvious goal is to waste money, to inflate the currency - that's the direct goal. The more indirect goal is to expand the empire at the expense of every American.

You are programmed, propagandized, into supporting this. It's so frustrating that I can see how this is done, and so few people can recognize it.

Slava Ukraini right? It's killing 100's of thousands of people, and they have NO CHANCE of winning. It's horrific. Most people, so few people, can recognize I just see this as a horrible, they think I'm picking a side. It's just death. It's inconceivable to these "people", that I just oppose conflict. I think 90% of people aren't really people. They're meat robots. They have no morality, no souls, no empathy, no thought. They are repeaters of television, and they range from smart to stupid. I live in a cage with a bunch of programmed, dangerous, animals, sub humans. They are frightening.

Maybe I went too far calling them animals, animals if you give them food and comfort and safety, they are great. Most people that exist, are monsters - not even animals.
2915   Patrick   2023 Oct 8, 8:11pm  

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/all-this-death-is-the-fault-of-the?publication_id=82124&post_id=137788966&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz


When Russia invaded Ukraine anyone who wanted peace talks instead of a rapidly escalating proxy war between nuclear-armed nations was a Putin lover and a Kremlin shill. We were told Putin invaded solely because he is evil and hates freedom, and we need to support a war against him because all such monsters understand is violence. Now the counteroffensive failed, the US is having trouble getting proxy war funding through congress, and even the head of NATO acknowledges that this war was provoked by NATO expansion.
2917   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 9, 1:12pm  

More details on planned "liberation" are emerging:

Russian "writer" Aleksey Sukonkin describes his vision for the future of Ukraine: he predicts the repeat of the 1950s anti-Soviet underground movement, and suggests that Russia has rich experience in eliminating resistance. Just read it, it's even crazier than it sounds. He believes it will take Russia 20 years to establish order (kill everyone who doesn't want the Russian world on their land).


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7qTLp-W8AAvxsh?format=png&name=large



THEY LOVE US SO MUCH AND WANT TO BE LIBERATED FROM NAZIS AND FOLDED INTO USSR SO STRONGLY WE"LL HAVE TO STARVE AND KILL THEM FOR 20 YEARS TO PACIFY THEM!!!
2919   Patrick   2023 Oct 11, 10:59am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/leaks-wednesday-october-11-2023-c


Narrative alert! Let’s start today’s Israel update with yesterday’s CNBC headline about Ukraine:




Or: Israel attacked, Ukraine hardest hit! And Zelensky smells a rat-faced pivot coming.

The former comedian has a point. Only ten minutes or so ago — despite its failed counteroffensive — Ukraine was still the media’s darling, its intimate lover and constant companion. But today, bupkis. Now, the media’s not even texting back. They practically blocked Zelensky on Facebook.

They don’t want him anymore, because there’s a newer, better, purer war to talk about.

In even worse news for Ukraine, it wasn’t just the media noticing the opportunity for a strategic pivot. The Biden Administration has latched onto the Israeli war like a drowning conman latches onto the only life preserver. ...

Biden didn’t just call the attacks “evil.” He called them “pure, unadulterated evil.” Joe sees degrees of evil. To Joe, evil can be watered-down, impure, or adulterated, which is when someone is kind of evil and kind of good. But this, this is the real deal. This aggression will not stand.

This is 100% pure evil, there’s nothing good about it whatsoever, it is black and white.

Now, you may agree with Joe. But it was a surprise that Joe Biden figured it out so fast. And the New York Times is just in love with the way Joe was talking. Here’s how the Times waxed eloquent describing Biden’s bristling, podium-pounding comments...

Biden’s speechwriter was obviously told to get out the thesaurus and don’t hold back.

I don’t mean to assume Biden is insincere (although I can’t help it). But due to American citizen involvement, the narrative over Israel’s war against Hamas is quickly coalescing into a joint battle of the forces of good against an evil common enemy. The politics over the Israeli conflict are much easier since it began with real war crimes against perfectly sympathetic innocents, not like Ukraine’s messy cast of characters including amoral nazis, corrupt oligarchs, crisis actors, and botched friendly-fire snafus.

In that sense, the War in Israel offers the Biden Administration its last pre-election chance at political redemption, a possible path to transcend its disastrous, cowardly withdrawal from Afghanistan and a coming long, painful winter mired in the literal quagmire of the hopelessly unwinnable Ukraine war.
2920   Ceffer   2023 Oct 11, 11:12am  

How long will the technicolor yawn of the MSM propaganda monolith with its bug eyed, stoked mouthpieces and AI generated BS last? Who knows. No plan survives the first five minutes of its execution, and Globalist demons or not, the Israeli Kmaf Nazi Illuminati thing was a bad plan to begin with. It demonstrates the senescence of of the Old World axis of evil emanating from Europe.
2923   Ceffer   2023 Oct 11, 12:31pm  

Uh, Oh. Could at least had the courtesy of letting the FF run for a few days before saying that.

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/119571
2925   Ceffer   2023 Oct 11, 12:38pm  

So, we have many if not most of the Western governments abdicating the protection of their own citizens for subversion garden parties. Do the Israelis buy the trope 'We will avenge you if we can't protect you' when the Guv is in league with the perps?
2928   Patrick   2023 Oct 13, 11:36am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/jilted-friday-october-13-2023-c-and


Speaking of the late, great Ukraine war, which you’ll be forgiven to have forgotten, and in what may be a poignant allegory for the vexing pace of world events, the Bloomberg building in New York City switched off its digital Ukraine flag yesterday — which has been flickering on the building’s top six floors ever since the invasion began — and replaced it with the digital flag of Israel.




Oddly, it has apparently never occurred to Bloomberg to switch on the American flag. Where’s the fun in that?

Ukraine is having an uh-oh moment. ...

Ukraine thought it was America’s fiancé, but it turns out America never planned to get married in the first place. Ukraine is only America’s mistress, or maybe just its little side hustle.

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