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Little bit of denazification last night:

Little bit of demilitarization never hurt anyone, if you know what I mean...

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1899382695345414180

You don't have to talk me into leaving NATO, I already support it.

For the Ukey Nazi Fluffers who insisted that the war wasn't caused by the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO...you just got kicked in the balls:

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

For the Ukey Nazi Fluffers who insisted that the war wasn't caused by the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO...you just got kicked in the balls:

NATO isn't offensive. It's defensive and Europe barely does a thing anyway. Putin was offensive. I really don't give a shit as this is all senseless and I don't have a pony in the race.

If Trump can facilitate a peace deal fine. I really just don't give a fuck about either country and don't want to deal with either, give munitions or aid. This never had to happen. We bought damn near 1/3 of the US with the Louisiana purchase.

We're talking a swath of land the size of Delaware or New Jersey roughly. Stop fighting. Russia pays for the land. Ukraine agrees to not join NATO. This isn't complicated. From a US standpoint we reduce some of the sanctions, get mineral rights and move on.

Problem is Euro trash and Russia trash. The fact Putin cannot even speak broken English as a former KGB agent and world leader is insane. He's an idiot.

WookieMan says

NATO isn't offensive. It's defensive

The Russians don't see it that way. And their opinion matters far more than your's or mine do. Did you or I personally go to war over the? No

It is THIS concept what Ukey Nazi Fluffers refuse to grasp. Instead they stick to "Well I don't agree with the Russians, so there!"

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

It is THIS concept what Ukey Nazi Fluffers refuse to grasp. Instead they stick to "Well I don't agree with the Russians, so there!"

I don't agree with either side. Both are retarded and we shouldn't spend money on it at all. If Russia is that scared of bull shit NATO they are pussies. Russia clearly cannot conquer a relatively Russian populace (friends) in 3 years in a medium sized country.

Trump is spot on. This is a waste of time and life. Biden just sent money to kill people and some of the friendly fire from munitions killed Ukrainians at my cost. This is dumber than Iraq and Afghanistan. Literally for a road to Crimea? That's literally what this is. 100's of thousands maimed or killed over a fucking road to a port.

This all could have been settled for $100B roughly and an agreement not to join NATO. Both parties are completely retarded. No surprise though...

WookieMan says

I don't agree with either side

AGAIN, it doesn't matter what you or other armchair geostrategists 'agree' with.

Are you at war with Ukraine? No? STOP Do not pass GO! Do not collect $200.

Yes? Then your opinion matters.

In spite of all the nay sayers, from the very beginning, Col. Douglas Macgregor stated that Ukraine had NO CHANCE in defeating Russia.

Watch this latest expert analysis provided by Macgregor in this interview conducted by Tucker Carlson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbd6HAziaE

RayAmerica says

In spite of all the nay sayers, from the very beginning, Col. Douglas Macgregor stated that Ukraine had NO CHANCE in defeating Russia.

So what? Anyone with a brain saw that.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

RayAmerica says

In spite of all the nay sayers, from the very beginning, Col. Douglas Macgregor stated that Ukraine had NO CHANCE in defeating Russia.

So what? Anyone with a brain saw that.

Hasn't happened in 3 years. Mcgregor has been wrong. I have no interest in Ukraine but that guy is an idiot. He moved the goal posts to make him "seem" right and make money even though he's a legit idiot.

Tucker is also desperate to make money. I don't consider him a journalist. Tucker is a bull shit artist. "I used to drink and smoke and now I don't." Bull shit. He's a liar. He's no different than Matt Lauer. Power and money corrupts 95% of those that get it.

WookieMan says

Hasn't happened in 3 years.

What hasn't happened in three years? Ukraine defeating Russia? Correct.

Nor could it ever. The deck was stacked against them from the beginning.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

WookieMan says

Hasn't happened in 3 years.

What hasn't happened in three years? Ukraine defeating Russia? Correct.

Nor could it ever. The deck was stacked against them from the beginning.

At ZERO point on this forum did i EVER say Ukraine would win head to head. I've pointed out obvious facts. Russia is not the military they claim they are. If all it takes is a little Western aid to stop the supposed 2nd best armed forces on the planet, that's a load of bull shit.

Even if Russia gets the land they're still the losers in this. They tore it up. Have to rebuild it. Lost many men and military assets in the process. Ukraine got plenty of supplies and money from NATO countries, not being in NATO. They are in NATO as a proxy.

Putin didn't do anything good for Russia. IF there's a peace deal it will take at least a decade to rebuild what was destroyed.

They will go at it again before everything is rebuilt just so Ukraine can fuck with Russia. This is probably a 20-30 year war with peace in phases. 4 years is about the lifespan of modern wars. We were policing in Iraq and Afghanistan, not fighting and some of our troops got whacked by an IED. Our loses were less than Chicago in the same time period.

Also Z is not going anywhere. There will be no elections for a while. He'll kick this back off in a few years when current teens hit fighting age and he'll essentially be a dictator. This is how Eastern Europe and Russia have always worked.

This will technically be a loss for Russia even if they get the land. Ukraine is already NATO at this point. Sweden and Finland are in on it now as well. I not sure how any of this is a win for Russia. Fine, they killed more people, congrats?

There was nothing stopping Russia from saying these are ethnic Russians and let's just make a land deal. Nope, they thought their military was better than they thought and now have 3 new NATO neighbors, with one being by proxy.

I see this also happening with "Libertarians."

"We should only defend our right to use international waterways."

"What about the Houthi? How are they different than the North African Pirates Jefferson sent Decatur to fight? They're causing maritime insurance and oil prices to go wild."

"@#!!@# You, Kike! Bibi blah blah AIPAC bad!"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/corporates-call-8-million-migrants-replace-dead-ukrainians

Business leaders are calling for as many as eight million non-Western migrants to be transplanted to Ukraine to mitigate the “demographic crisis” created by its three-year war with Russia.

The news vindicates warnings from Raheem Kassam, Editor-in-Chief of The National Pulse, that the conflict would be used as an excuse to transform the country.





... “We have a demographic catastrophe. Either we encourage our women to have more children, which would take 18–20 years to reflect in the labor market, or we must realistically seek labor migration from other countries,” Voskoboinik. He seeks to source the migrants from non-Western states and regions such as Bangladesh, Nepal, India, North Africa, and Central Asia—despite various studies showing that non-Western migrants are a massive net drain on the public finances in other European countries.

Maybe that was the plan all along. Kill off the native Slavs, import non-Europeans.

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/

First, as recently documented by overwhelming forensic evidence, and affirmed even by a Kyiv court, it was Ukrainian right-wing militants who started the violence in 2014 that provoked Russia’s initial invasion of the country’s southeast including Crimea. Back then, Ukraine had a pro-Russia president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had won free and fair elections in 2010 with strong support from ethnic Russians in the country’s southeast.

In 2013, he decided to pursue economic cooperation with Russia rather than Europe as previously planned. Pro-western activists responded with mainly peaceful occupation of the capital’s Maidan square and government offices, until the president eventually offered substantial concessions in mid-February 2014, after which they mainly withdrew.

Just then, however, right-wing militants overlooking the square started shooting Ukrainian police and remaining protesters. Police returned fire at the militants, who then claimed bogusly that the police had killed the unarmed protesters. Outraged by this ostensible government massacre, Ukrainians descended on the capital and ousted the president, who fled to Russia for protection.

Putin responded by deploying troops to Crimea and weapons to the southeast Donbas region on behalf of ethnic Russians who felt their president had been undemocratically overthrown. While this backstory does not justify Russia’s invasion, it explains that it was hardly “unprovoked.”

Second, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky contributed to a wider war by violating peace deals with Russia and seeking NATO military aid and membership. The deals, known as Minsk 1 and 2, had been negotiated under his predecessor President Petro Poroshenko in 2014 and 2015 to end fighting in the southeast and protect endangered troops.

Ukraine was to guarantee Donbas limited political autonomy by the end of 2015, which Putin believed would be sufficient to prevent Ukraine from joining — or serving as a military base for — NATO. Regrettably, Ukraine refused for seven years to fulfill that commitment.

Zelensky even campaigned in 2019 on a promise to finally implement the accords to prevent further war. But after winning election, he reneged, apparently less concerned about risking war than looking weak on Russia.

Zelensky instead increased weapons imports from NATO countries, which was the last straw for Putin. So, on Feb. 21, 2022, Russia recognized the independence of Donbas, deployed troops there for “peacekeeping,” and demanded Zelensky renounce his quest for NATO military assistance and membership.

When Zelensky again refused, Putin massively expanded his military offensive on Feb. 24. Intentionally or not, Zelensky had provoked Russian aggression, although that obviously does not excuse Moscow’s subsequent war crimes.

Third, Joe Biden too contributed crucially to the escalation and perpetuation of fighting. In late 2021, when Putin mobilized forces on Ukraine’s border and demanded implementation of the Minsk deals, it seemed obvious that unless Zelensky relented, Russia would invade to at least form a land bridge between Donbas and Crimea.

^^^ for the Ukey Nazi Fluffers who keep insisting that Russia started this war.

Russian officials have admitted that Ukrainian forces are mounting a ground incursion into the Belgorod region of southwestern Russia, on the border with Ukraine. While it remains unclear whether or not the Ukrainian Armed Forces have successfully penetrated into the region, there are now reports of casualties and an acknowledgment from the Russian side that the situation is at least “difficult.” Further, there are growing signs that Ukraine might be seeking to try and occupy at least a portion of Russian territory, similar to its previous attempt in the Kursk region, or at the very least establish some sort of buffer between it and Russian forces facing the Sumy region.

https://www.twz.com/land/russia-confirms-ongoing-ukrainian-assault-on-belgorod-region

Are they greeted as liberators there? I bet they are. Long live Belgorod People's Republic! BPR! BPR!!!

RWSGFY says

"Are they greeted as liberators there? I bet they are. Long live Belgorod People's Republic!..."

No. This is just another setup for another humiliating Ukrainian defeat.

The_Deplorable says

he’s just puppet. cia did this war. that piece of shit mccain and his boyfriend in crime Lindsey were all out there promoting this murder.

we only trying to end it and pretend like we want to is because we lost.

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/ukrainada

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraines-military-issues-bizarre-recruitment-ad-featuring-mcdonalds-cheeseburgers

Russia better start humping if they want the rest of the Ukraine Piñata before 'peace'.