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Also your house looks ugly as fuck and you'd look like a gay in my part of the world. Sloped north side panels.... that's retarded.

Wow, Alberta has more sunny days than San Jose. I didn’t know this.

Eman says

Wow, Alberta has more sunny days than San Jose. I didn’t know this.

Sunny doesn't equate to power September to April in Canada. Sure you'll get some I suppose, but not even close to net zero without a yard full of panels. Roof won't do shit up there. Summer maybe. Then factor in snow on the panels.

I was just in Montana. No sun rise until 8am that would generate any power and too dark by 3-4pm to generate power. That's about 40% of the year there. Now go another 300 miles north. Have you been north in the winter? You make a lot of assumptions about everywhere else based on CA and websites. Go there. Solar doesn't work without a ton of panels north of a certain latitude for the cost. Can you do it? Sure. Waste of money that could be better invested that could easily pay for your gas and electric on the dividends/interest/growth saved by not putting solar on your roof.

Eman says

Take a look at how his solar is mounted to give it 6% south facing exposure. He said he gets over 90% production between March-October, not what you claimed. I’m sure people who live there would call BS if the numbers don’t add up.

The numbers DON'T add up. How could they be selling electricity at 3x the rate? The only answer is they are being subsidized, because somebody is paying for that power, and it's not a consumer, because THEY aren't paying 3x "the rate".

This is the problem with economic repression and centralization. They are trying to get people to buy solar by giving them a carrot, and the stick is being taken to anybody that doesn't engage in this fraud, through taxation.

richwicks says

Eman says

Take a look at how his solar is mounted to give it 6% south facing exposure. He said he gets over 90% production between March-October, not what you claimed. I’m sure people who live there would call BS if the numbers don’t add up.

The numbers DON'T add up. How could they be selling electricity at 3x the rate? The only answer is they are being subsidized, because somebody is paying for that power, and it's not a consumer, because THEY aren't paying 3x "the rate".

Eman is a solar homo. You can cherry pick from your location all you want and try to extrapolate it somewhere else. The globe is a sphere. A good majority of it get 5-7 hours of light six months of the year. Including Canada. That's a waste of money without making your yard look like shit with panels and getting a ton of them.

The cost of solar is continuing to go down, as expected. Its no different than any new technology such as look at how automobiles were only affordable for the rich back in 1910. Look at the price of an HDTV back in 2003 or the price of a desktop computer in 1986.

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AD says

The cost of solar is continuing to go down, as expected. Its no different than any new technology such as look at how automobiles were only affordable for the rich back in 1910. Look at the price of an HDTV back in 2003 or the price of a desktop computer in 1986.

Different tech. Computers work in everyone's home. EV's are not nearly as efficient as what they draw from cold weather climates. 50%+ of the country, 50% of the year. That's not "sustainable."

TV's are a nothing burger. Younger demographics don't watch it. Demand goes down and there's more inventory. No one wants them or uses them. I have 10. We actively use 4 in a family of 5 and 3 are for gaming for the kids. Television is dead. The price mean nothing because there's no demand. Been that way for a decade, at least.

You can still get depreciated used cars for massively cheap. No one should ever buy a new car. Throwing the dart, especially an EV.

WookieMan says

Different tech.

Yes different tech, but like all tech, there are innovation gains which drive down price. Look at how the price per kw-hr has steadily decreased for solar energy. I agree with Eman that solar energy's affordability is increasing.

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https://www.readtrung.com/p/best-of-satpost-first-half-of-2024

Patrick says

https://www.readtrung.com/p/best-of-satpost-first-half-of-2024

That's gonna be a LOT OF TOXIC WASTE in ~25 yes.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Solar energy benefits explained.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

That's gonna be a LOT OF TOXIC WASTE in ~25 yes.

I just had a solar fucker stop by the house 2 days ago. I told him we're building so I don't want it on this house. Mom has money and she's moving in and her electric bill will be $100 max. I told him I researched it. These sales guys don't know what the fuck they're talking about. I was polite, but I really really wanted to tell him to fuck off. He was at least nice and not pushy.

I'm not a geezer, but with 15 years of dealing with sales people and my wife in sales, I can't stand the shit. The kid was nice though. Can't do solar at the new house either. Tress on someone else's property. Only downside of the property, shit sun in the winter. Spring through fall will be fine. Not dropping panels on the roof to maybe get 7-8 months of solar.

WookieMan says

I just had a solar fucker stop by the house 2 days ago.

I just tell those types I'm renting, which is true but I'd probably say that even if it wasn't true.

SoTex says

WookieMan says

I just had a solar fucker stop by the house 2 days ago.

I just tell those types I'm renting, which is true but I'd probably say that even if it wasn't true.

I was nice. I get the gig. I was being honest. I'm selling the house to my mom and not putting anything on the roof at this point.

Want the place as simple as can be or I have to take care of it. She's 70 and not getting younger. I don't need her estate and she can afford setting the AC to 60ºF. Solar make no sense for this property.