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2022 Mar 27, 7:08pm   31,388 views  200 comments

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Who here installed solar panels on their home? How has it been working out for you?

I did the math of Tesla solar panels. Cost is $17.4K after tax incentives. It would cover my monthly electricity bill of $230/mo on average. Add in a powerwall will increase the cost by $8k. Without the powerwall, it’s about 15% ROI. What am I missing?

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197   WookieMan   2025 Jul 10, 3:12am  

Bd6r says


I drove by this disaster a while ago, it looks apocalyptic. I do not think those can be recycled, they will just bury it in landfills and have cadmium telluride and lead leach from it in an environmentally friendly fashion.

Yeah, they've been popping up here in Northern IL. They're designing these ones so they can go vertical if there's severe weather like hail so they don't get smashed. They clearly don't understand IL weather though. Tornados, microburst and derechos happen all the time where we live. Basically high wind events on the low end at 70mph up to an F5 tornado.

Also the power isn't used in the area it's produced in. They build them near existing transmission lines and send it to Chicago and the suburbs here. So we get the eye sore and no benefit to our electric bills.

Back to wind, if there's a major tornado that skirts the edge my town and hits one of those solar farms, those panels are going to be flying everywhere. We just have cornfield around us, so debris is of little concern without a direct it. I could see those things getting flung 1/4 to 1/2 mile in an F5.
198   Bd6r   2025 Jul 10, 9:38am  

They cut off all trees when building solar farms, even hundreds of years old oaks. Very green indeed. The retards who allow devastation of their inherited family farms get paid something like 600 per acre per year for this and it is 20-30 year contracts. Often contracts do not have clause for panel removal at the end of land lease. Neighbors are usually pissed off since land next to them is dead and may become toxic in future. Hopefully all subsidies are removed so we do not have to suffer this.
199   WookieMan   2025 Jul 10, 12:23pm  

Bd6r says


They cut off all trees when building solar farms, even hundreds of years old oaks. Very green indeed. The retards who allow devastation of their inherited family farms get paid something like 600 per acre per year for this and it is 20-30 year contracts. Often contracts do not have clause for panel removal at the end of land lease. Neighbors are usually pissed off since land next to them is dead and may become toxic in future. Hopefully all subsidies are removed so we do not have to suffer this.

Oh the public is pissed off around me about it. First is land usage and the loss of farmland. Second is the potential toxins. Third is there's literally no benefit to our community and an eye sore as the electric goes to Chicago. Make Chicago do it. There's 150 acres at the South Works steel mill in Chicago that will never be built on because of blacks. Yes black people and bad neighborhood. The EPA already has said the land is trash.

The other thing is they're going to contract all the work to someone else outside the area and create no new jobs on the proposed stuff around me. They've also been bribing local organizations to pump projects. As a board member I voted no on something that would benefit kids. They try and pull at certain organizations heart strings. I just said I don't want solar panels. We get enough donations from other sources. It felt dirty.

We need to stop subsidizing anything considered green. Because it really is not. You cannot get net zero on your home without panels on the ground or massive battery banks. I'll take natural gas back ups for my home. Wind while equally as ugly it takes up way less land and I'd prefer that over solar as the land around here could still be farmed and we have consisted wind day and night. Still no subsidy for that. Figure out how to raise capital.
200   EBGuy   2025 Jul 10, 3:48pm  

SunnyvaleCA says


Each time, for me, the problem seems that I just don't use enough solar to get the economies of scale to amortize the fixed costs. I run about 8 kWh / day with most of it after the sun goes down.

Similar to my situation over ten years ago when I purchased a system that might eventually pay for itself (under NEM 2.0). Fast forward to now where PG&Es top rate (non TOU) is $.51 /kWhr.
365 days x 8 kWhr x $.51/kWhr = $1,489
Install was about $10k so almost 15% return tax free.
I would be remiss to not thank the angry tax payers of Pat.net for subsidizing this purchase.

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