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Water Is Becoming A Precious Commodity


               
2022 May 5, 4:11am   550 views  20 comments

by ohomen171   follow (2)  

#drought The water we drink, bathe with, cook with, and clean with is becoming a precious commodity. We have a local website here in the Pacifica area that shares news in the community. It is called Next Door Sharp Park. There were numerous warnings from local residents about water bills that had gone up substantially. (Elena and I got lucky and saw no uptick in our bill.) This is caused by rainfall that did not meet expectations. We are in a drought and must conserve water. One of my swim friends gave me some more shocking news about the new regime of water rationing. If a ratepayer uses excessive amounts of water, he or she will get a much higher water bill. There will also be a penalty that will show up on the person's property tax bill.
If you live in Santiago now, you are experiencing a drought. If you live in my beloved Cape Town, you survived a very bad drought some years ago where reservoirs dried up almost completely. Local residents and companies showed incredible ingenuity and initiative. Small and cost-effective desalinization plants were brought online. Even with spotty electricity delivery from Eskom, these plants saved the day for many residents.
Israel is the world leader in desalinization systems that turn seawater into drinking water.
There is one huge problem with turning seawater into drinking water. Massive amounts of electricity are required. This makes water from the sea much more expensive. The Rolls Royce Jet Engine Company and Microsoft founder Bill Gates have come to the rescue.
Rolls Royce started to build ultra-small nuclear reactors for spacecraft doing deep space missions. As you can imagine such reactors are exposed to wild temperature extremes and bombardment with all sorts of unpleasant radiation. They must be tough and dependable. They must be 100% safe. Imagine the uproar if a spacecraft crashed to earth and released dangerous nuclear materials.
Bill Gates has developed similar nuclear reactors. These could be used to provide more cost-effective electric power for desalination plants.
I sat in on a Zoom meeting with Bill Gates where he talked in-depth about his reactors. I suspect that they would be approved by some very hard-nosed environmentalists.

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1   richwicks   2022 May 5, 4:16am  

ohomen171 says
Bill Gates has developed similar nuclear reactors. These could be used to provide more cost-effective electric power for desalination plants.


These "reactors" are just batteries. They are a pile of nuclear something that is below critical mass, but high enough so they are constantly releasing heat. A Peltier junction is used to generate energy through the thermal difference. They used them on the Voyager series of space craft and they were launched like 50 years ago. They don't produce a whole ton of power, and they constantly generate heat - meaning you either use the energy or lose it to thermal disappation.

They are useful for a very small number of tasks.
2   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2022 May 5, 4:23am  

ohomen171 says
#drought The water we drink, bathe with, cook with, and clean with is becoming a precious commodity. We have a local website here in the Pacifica area that shares news in the community. It is called Next Door Sharp Park. There were numerous warnings from local residents about water bills that had gone up substantially. (Elena and I got lucky and saw no uptick in our bill.) This is caused by rainfall that did not meet expectations. We are in a drought and must conserve water. One of my swim friends gave me some more shocking news about the new regime of water rationing. If a ratepayer uses excessive amounts of water, he or she will get a much higher water bill. There will also be a penalty that will show up on the person's property tax bill.


#1 Stop growing lettuce in the desert. Residential and Commerical/Industrial use of water is a fraction of Agricultural use.
#2 Repeal foreign Spanish Conquistador Laws and standardize California to follow Anglo-Saxon Common Law Littorial Rights like most of the United States, end private ownership of rivers and streams.
Distant #3 Build more water catchments and infrastructure and fuck the Shrimpus Pacificus Californicus or whatever 'native (sub-)species' whose only differing characteristics is that it's found along the Coast and it's tail is 0.001mm smaller and one shade pinker than Shrimpus Pacificus Commonus.

BOOM! Problem solved.
3   Tenpoundbass   2022 May 5, 4:33am  

God save the delta mud skipper!
5   richwicks   2022 May 5, 5:02am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Obligatory:




I wonder if that's for real, they are both disgusting looking. Like they've not showered in days.
6   Booger   2022 May 5, 1:29pm  

AmericanKulak says
Distant #3 Build more water catchments and infrastructure and fuck the Shrimpus Pacificus Californicus or whatever 'native (sub-)species' whose only differing characteristics is that it's found along the Coast and it's tail is 0.001mm smaller and one shade pinker than Shrimpus Pacificus Commonus.


It amazes me how much water is let go back into the ocean in places where water is scarce.
7   SunnyvaleCA   2022 May 5, 2:51pm  

AmericanKulak says
Stop growing lettuce in the desert. Residential and Commerical/Industrial use of water is a fraction of Agricultural use.

This is really the end of the problem right there. Given the disparate cost structure of water used for agriculture, there is no amount of conservation of water elsewhere that has any real effect.
8   WookieMan   2022 May 5, 3:16pm  

Midwest is the best. Massive flaws for sure. But fuck tons of water which everyone needs to live. You aren't going to stop the eco warriors out there in CA. They'll just buy bottled water.... lo fucking l. You guys do live in the the twilight zone.
9   mell   2022 May 5, 3:44pm  

There is no drought, no problem here. just don't listen to "news" orgs and politicians. la vita e bella
10   socal2   2022 May 5, 6:01pm  

WookieMan says
Midwest is the best. Massive flaws for sure. But fuck tons of water which everyone needs to live. You aren't going to stop the eco warriors out there in CA. They'll just buy bottled water.... lo fucking l. You guys do live in the the twilight zone.


Lots of water means lots of humidity, lots of bugs and lots of shit weather and cancelled outdoor events.

I will take SoCal's beautiful Mediterranean climate and desalinated water and recycled sewage every day of the week and twice on Sundays!

Ancient Romans figured out how to source and transport water thousands of years ago. Even us retards in California should be able to figure it out.
11   BoomAndBustCycle   2022 May 5, 6:40pm  

DooDahMan says

AmericanKulak says
Stop growing lettuce in the desert


Chump change/drop in the bucket compared to Almonds etc. Then again why grow rice in the central valley to export ?

Is it going to end - NO. Some groups have $$ and lobbyists - the general public does not


The general public does have money though. Look how much stupid go fund me accounts raise. If average citizens donate $10 to lobbyists we would outspend all the big corps. Their is power is numbers. Just need to organize and do go fund me for citizens. Stop donating to flip flopping politicians and set up a voting system where z citizens vote with their dollars.
12   Onvacation   2022 May 5, 7:05pm  

California needs desalination plants connected to new nuke power plants to service our population.

Or we can just kill a bunch of the useless eaters.
13   zzyzzx   2022 May 6, 6:02am  

DooDahMan says
Stop expanding cities and suburbs in historical desert environments - that works even better.


The impression that I get from California is that they really do need to build high rises. They just need to anchor them to bedrock so that they don't lean over.
14   zzyzzx   2022 May 6, 6:09am  

DooDahMan says

Booger says
It amazes me how much water is let go back into the ocean in places where water is scarce.


Calculate the evaporation loss from all of the dams in the west as well as from The California Aqueduct

As for the water going back into the ocean it is/was part of a natural cycle that existed long before humans altered the system to suit their own needs. Nature has a way of leveling the playing field sooner or later - some things are best left alone.


I have no idea how much evaporates, but there is plenty of water in the east that can be pumped over. If in pipes evaporation is most likely not an issue.
15   RWSGFY   2022 May 6, 9:24am  

zzyzzx says

DooDahMan says
Stop expanding cities and suburbs in historical desert environments - that works even better.


The impression that I get from California is that they really do need to build high rises. They just need to anchor them to bedrock so that they don't lean over.


Why? California is empty. Even fucking SFBA is practically empty as anybody who took a tour of the area in a small plane and seen wast empty spaces already knows.
16   ForcedTQ   2022 May 6, 10:06am  

DooDahMan says

Onvacation says
California needs desalination plants connected to new nuke power plants to service our population.


Sounds great - now convince the public how they will pay for it because the public will pay for it one wat or another and it won't be cheap. Everyone wants this stuff but no one wants to pay for it, better those costs are borne by the other guy.


We’re already paying taxes out the ass to the fucked up CA state Government. With a newly revised excess revenue projection of 63 Billion Dollars all of that revenue, if not given back to the taxpayers, should be used for Desal plants coupled to getting SONGs updated/modified to back up and running and expanding Diablo Canyon expanded to the 6 reactors the original plan had in it.

The fucksticks at the state capital have instead decided to allocate 21 billion to climate change, 3.5 billion to ocean level rise mitigation, and 18 billion to transportation (read the bullshit bullet train to nowhere.)

There is plenty of money to be had, but not enough throwing the idiotic bastards in the legislature OUT going on.
17   zzyzzx   2022 May 6, 10:18am  

RWSGFY says
Even fucking SFBA is practically empty as anybody who took a tour of the area in a small plane and seen wast empty spaces already knows.


I was told that the vast empty space that I was was along the San Andreas fault.
18   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2022 May 6, 11:04am  

zzyzzx says

DooDahMan says
Stop expanding cities and suburbs in historical desert environments - that works even better.


The impression that I get from California is that they really do need to build high rises. They just need to anchor them to bedrock so that they don't lean over.


This. I've never seen such sprawl where there should be at least 4-6 story buildings, as in SFBA. LA, too.

The area around Disneyland is all SFH and duplexes?!?!
19   RWSGFY   2022 May 6, 11:10am  

AmericanKulak says

zzyzzx says

DooDahMan says
Stop expanding cities and suburbs in historical desert environments - that works even better.


The impression that I get from California is that they really do need to build high rises. They just need to anchor them to bedrock so that they don't lean over.


This. I've never seen such sprawl where there should be at least 4-6 story buildings, as in SFBA. LA, too.

The area around Disneyland is all SFH and duplexes?!?!


I lived in a highrise appt in a big city for almost half of my life. Never again. Give me a SFH with a decent-sized backyard or give me death.
20   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2022 May 6, 11:19am  

RWSGFY says
I lived in a highrise appt in a big city for almost half of my life. Never again. Give me a SFH with a decent-sized backyard or give me death.






As long as the zoning laws allow land owners to build up within a few miles from downtown, do your thing.

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