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socal2 says

Onvacation says

I don't believe that. I do believe that DeSantis was a lawyer at Guantanamo and has deep links to the intelligence agencies.

Trump's MAGA fanclub is now shitting on the US military for being too mean to Islamists.

This is the idiocy of "always 100% opposing everything the other side does or supports, principles be damned!" on full display. Trump was super-mean to Islamonazis (ask Gen. Salami or ISIS), but since it's Sleepy Joe who's doing them the boo-boos now WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!!!

It's probably pretty hard not to be part of the deep-state and hold high office. It's pretty obvious a lot of politicians are extremely corrupt and are enriching themselves by selling out America.

Trump may be deep state as well. He did some good things but much was just political theatre. He could have easily done some things he didn't.

I don't think Trump is deep state. I think he was originally cast to lose to Hilary and then he would settle down to a job like mayor or governor of New York, or maybe just go back to reality shows. But he won! He exposed how deep the swamp really is. He started a movement that MUST live beyond him, but for now he is our leader with the best chance to MAGA.

It's going to be a fun year. The political theatre is lit!

We have the DeSantis/Newsom debate later this week.

Imagine having a big bright line General Election between these two debating substantive and meaningful topics that impact our everyday lives like immigration, law enforcement, taxes, education and culture.....and COVID

Instead, we will be exposed to another polarizing clown show of two old octogenarians that the majority of the country already hates and have made up their minds on.

Democrats love it because they KNOW they have no success to run on and people are fleeing Blue States to Red States by the droves. Democrats can only run on the fear and hatred of Trump.

Rona is just proving herself as unfit for office. This should never be allowed, DeSantis is polling lower than anyone. Trump has the nomination, the only way any of them thinks they stand a chance is if Trump gets incarcerated. Which is why the RINOs are colluding with the Commies, to have the Trump witch hunt trials right as the primary season starts, and it's too late for a MAGA replacement.

Newsome hasn't even officially entered the race, or filed for it. Has anyone forgot the trouble Kid Rock got into to teasing a run for office, and printing up political schwag, while not officially running? Again one sided rules for thee, but not for Stalin.

Tenpoundbass says

the only way any of them thinks they stand a chance is if Trump gets incarcerated.

Um, no: incarceration does not legally prevent anyone from running and being elected.

Eric Holder says

Um, no: incarceration does not legally prevent anyone from running and being elected.

Yeah but Liberals makes up rules as obstacles present themselves.
Just like they said there was no 25th amendment and used it as the base of their J6 persecution and Trump impeachment witch hunt.
Then when they got in office, the first order of business in 2021 was repealing the 25th that they said didn't exist.

Tenpoundbass says

Then when they got in office, the first order of business in 2021 was repealing the 25th that they said didn't exist.

They repealed exactly diddly squat. As in nada. Zilch.

Tenpoundbass says

Rona is just proving herself as unfit for office. This should never be allowed, DeSantis is polling lower than anyone.

Yes - Rona is unfit for office. Too bad Trump was her major supporter, knowing she is useless other than running interference for Trump while Republicans were losing easy elections around the country and wasting donor money fighting Trump's legal persecution.

National primary polls mean jack shit right now. But DeSantis is clearly in the #2 position and has a good chance of winning Iowa.

It would have been nice to see if Trump can stand on a debate stage and defend is record against Conservative critiques from DeSantis. But that won't happen because the Deep State doesn't want to damage Trump too bad before he can lock up the nomination. Last debate I remember of Trump was the shit show against Biden where they just screamed over each other while Trump was looking like shit with COVID. I am sure he looks even fresher 4 years later!

I imagine 2 basement campaigns between Trump and Biden in the General. No debates on ideas or evaluation of Biden's awful record. Just more bullshit re-litigating 2020 and Republicans will likely lose another easy layup election.

Sadly it does look like another basement election is upon us.

RWSGFY says

Sadly it does look like another basement election is upon us.

What can I say, we are the Stupid Party who thinks 2024 will be like 2016 and that Democrats will be foolish enough to run someone as unpopular as Hillary or Biden. Lots of MAGA hopium looking at worthless national polls against Biden a year out.

My Liberal in-laws are very worried about Biden and totally believe he will step down for health reasons and are totally stoked to vote for anyone not Trump.

socal2 says

What can I say, we are the Stupid Party

Republican? Trump hating Pence type Republican? What party is the stupid party you are in?

Used to call myself a Libertarian but their party sucks. I now identify as an independent American who is sick of all the corruption, warfare, and destruction of our great country.

Onvacation says

Republican? Trump hating Pence type Republican? What party is the stupid party you are in?

I voted for Trump and will vote for him again if he is the nominee. Any Conservative or Libertarian (even a JEB!) is better than any Democrat running including fucking RFK.

I'm afraid that if Trump were to somehow pull out another miracle, he will be worse than Schwarzenegger turning into a Liberal squish like Arnold did after he got whipped by the Unions during his first proposition fight in California. Trump will be a New York Liberal spending the entire 4 years trying to kiss up to the Mainstream Media and Democrats to burnish his legacy while Conservatives and MAGA will get the shaft. It's not like Trump hasn't dumped and abandoned numerous allies and supporters over the years. There is no guiding principle or loyalty beyond Trump. It's just Trump and his family. You can already see it in Trump's messaging going after Conservatives and saying nice things about Hillary and Newsom in the past few months.

No surprise that I am a DeSantis fan.

But as a Californian, it was very enjoyable to watch DeSantis just mop the floor and slap our smugly Governor all over the place. It wasn't even close. Gavin has never faced that level of scrutiny being so used to fawning press carrying his water. Honestly can't believe Newsome agreed to this debate. He got absolutely clobbered.

Meanwhile, Trump world grifters like Laura Loomer were busy defending Gavin and making more left wing attacks against DeSantis.

He just slit his political throat:

Moot point anyway if the Colorado Republican Party goes through with having a caucus instead of a primary if Trump is not on the ballot.

HeadSet says

Moot point anyway if the Colorado Republican Party goes through with having a caucus instead of a primary if Trump is not on the ballot.

Not really. Because ppl outside of CO won't really know.

PumpingRedheads says

He just slit his political throat:

Cry baby MAGA taking a break from sucking up to Disney, Bud Light, BLM, Trannies, Gavin Newsom and Hillary Clinton to complain about DeSantis not bowing down to Trump in the primary?

Did DeSantis try to get Trump disqualified like Trump's Super PAC tried to get DeSantis disqualified earlier this year?

MAGA likes to throw all kinds of punches and low blows, but shriek like hypocritical Democrat women if they are not shown sufficient fealty.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-ron-desantis-ethics-complaint/2023/03/15/id/1112323/

Even though the Colorado Supreme Court is totally corrupt and insane to try and get Trump removed off the ballot, sadly - the majority of Americans are happy about it.

The reality is that Biden won't be running next year and Trump is still one of the most unpopular people in America that will motivate millions to vote against him.

It is not fair, but it is the reality we live in. Trump remains deeply unpopular and is losing more Conservatives like me with his dopey Leftwing attacks on DeSantis.

Yet - knowing all this, we are still sleepwalking into oblivion nominating Trump again. Democrats and the Media are playing us like a fiddle knowing that Trump's popularity would go up with Republican primary voters with every B.S. indictment.

We will all be here in 2024 wondering how Trump lost just like Trump's picks of Dr. Oz and Herschel Walker lost badly and costing us the Senate in 2022.

socal2 says

more Conservatives like me

Define conservative?
socal2 says

We will all be here in 2024 wondering how Trump lost just like Trump's picks of Dr. Oz and Herschel Walker lost badly and costing us the Senate in 2022.

Some of us know that Democrats cheat.

Top Democrats

Onvacation says

Some of us know that Democrats cheat.

Of course they do.

But if it is not close, they can't cheat.

We need to run someone who can win by a decent margin and knows how to run a ground game organization. DeSantis just did that quite handedly in Florida while many Trump candidates flamed out.

socal2 says

many Trump candidates flamed out.

Flamed out? Or cheated?

socal2 says

Even though the Colorado Supreme Court is totally corrupt and insane to try and get Trump removed off the ballot, sadly - the majority of Americans are happy about it.

One thing I learned from Trump's first election in 2016 was the polls are very wrong. Apparently they are just another tool used to manipulate the public, and not to read the pubic.

Patrick says

socal2 says

Even though the Colorado Supreme Court is totally corrupt and insane to try and get Trump removed off the ballot, sadly - the majority of Americans are happy about it.

One thing I learned from Trump's first election in 2016 was the polls are very wrong. Apparently they are just another tool used to manipulate the public, and not to read the pubic.

You said pubic.... lol. Joking aside polls are shit. I think they're getting worse as well. I actually don't understand why we need or want them. By default it's manipulation of the voter. Follow the crowd type mindset. Pick your pony and don't rely on other bull shit propaganda.