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Thomas Massie


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2022 May 31, 5:00pm   16,194 views  238 comments

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Thomas Massie, U.S. House Kentucky District 4, Republican

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207   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2025 Mar 11, 8:01pm  

remember what i said about Trump before? he never was a cut spending guy, he signed every omnibus that landed on his desk. He will continue the same.
208   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 11, 8:49pm  

Patrick says







Massie: Once upon a time, I introduced a bill to eliminate the Department of Education.

Everybody: What happened?

Massie: Nothing. But it shows that I'm the real deal, the King of Cuts, The Lance of Liberty, unlike pfffth... that Orange MAGA cult. I feel very fiscally conservative, libertarian even.

Trump: Hours after her appointment, his Sec of Ed lays off half the Department via RIF.
209   Patrick   2025 Mar 11, 8:58pm  

It was a good idea, but Massie didn't have the power to do it. Trump does.
210   Patrick   2025 Mar 11, 8:58pm  

Not intending to be personal here, just liked this one.

I admire people who stand up and speak the truth when the crowd is wrong.


211   Patrick   2025 Mar 11, 9:00pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


remember what i said about Trump before? he never was a cut spending guy, he signed every omnibus that landed on his desk. He will continue the same.


I'm worried that you're right.

Trump could do the right thing and demand actual spending cuts immediately, in the current CR, but he refuses to do it.
212   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 11, 9:01pm  

Patrick says

Not intending to be personal here, just liked this one.

Yep, We're just having fun.
213   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 11, 9:03pm  

Patrick says


Trump could do the right thing and demand actual spending cuts but he refuses to do it.

Trump is doing it the right way - back to seriousness for a moment.

He's doing the death of 1000 cuts, using recission, RIFs, etc. and a whole shitload of lesser known but generally long used tactics with precedence, to get it done. That's what he and his team concluded in the wilderness was the optimal way forward.

It takes a simple majority to get recessions approved permanently; budgets are a helluva fight and have a far higher bar to cross.

The Great Irony being he's using the "Imperial Presidency" or "Supreme Executive" that the Federalist Society have long pushed forward, but are mad Trump is taking advantage of
217   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 12, 2:17pm  

"Thanks for the money you gave me for being seduced by my big words and no actions! I'm gonna be your new Big Mouth, No Deeds Senator from Kentucky to replace Mitch! Defeat the Uniparty by losing with principles! !"


Massie is the new NeverTrump leader.
218   mell   2025 Mar 12, 2:45pm  

Trump has never been tight with spending, but I prefer a measured approach, so let's give him some time and see where we stand wrt deficit in a year or two. Massie will be 10 times better than yurtle the turtle. Numbers USA likely bs. Yurtle certainly didn't vote better than this on immigration:
https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/132068/thomas-massie/40/immigration
219   stereotomy   2025 Mar 12, 2:48pm  

Not everyone who opposes Trump on a particular issue is his enemy. Trump's got to dial down the vengeance but trust his paranoia. He's doing this, and I think this is why:

I really think that Trump and Musk now know to a gross extent how deep and extensive the corruption is, and it horrifies them. They have to figure out how many congresspeople they can turn to rat out the worst, then get rid of the rest in the midterm elections. The fact that every member of Congress has gone from six figures net worth to eight figures in 4-5 years means that the corruption is universal. This probably includes Massie as well as Paul.
220   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 12, 2:49pm  

The Numbers USA number are accurate; Massey usually finds a reason to vote no on border enforcement bills.

I'm thoroughly convinced Massie is a Koch Tool to weaken MAGA from the "Right"/"Libertarian" Flank.

When I see Massie being practical for today, not principled for the far off fantasy future, I'll change my mind.

221   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 12, 3:31pm  

Noticing a pattern among Massie boosters:



A pattern of Massies: Wait till the last minute, make no provision for alternatives, do not work in advance for alternatives, and announce His Great Princuhpuled Stance


222   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 12, 3:57pm  

10 Print "MAGA: So what Budgets will Massie write that 7 Democrats will also vote for?";
20 Print "Massholes: You want the status quo!"
30 GOTO 10
223   HeadSet   2025 Mar 12, 4:21pm  

AmericanKulak says

10 Print "MAGA: So what Budgets will Massie write that 7 Democrats will also vote for?";
20 Print "Massholes: You want the status quo!"
30 GOTO 10

Cool, another guy who remembers Commadore 64 BASIC.
224   mell   2025 Mar 12, 6:18pm  

AmericanKulak says


The Numbers USA number are accurate; Massey usually finds a reason to vote no on border enforcement bills.

I can't find any indication that yurtles immigration voting record is more conservative than massies, so that reeks of bs, regardless of whether either of them camln be considered effective. Then add in yurtles open border and aid policy wrt ukraine, and it certainly can't be C vs F. Sure looks like he's being targeted
225   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 12, 7:09pm  

mell says


I can't find any indication that yurtles immigration voting record is more conservative than massies, so that reeks of bs, regardless of whether either of them camln be considered effective. Then add in yurtles open border and aid policy wrt ukraine, and it certainly can't be C vs F. Sure looks like he's being targeted

If anything is Constitutional, the President declaring an emergency with millions of unknown people crossing it in a year is... guarding the US border.

Not what his Koch Brother donors want, though.
226   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 12, 7:11pm  




Announce a No vote just before the vote.

Vote No.

Never have an alternative bill to offer.

Proudly make sure everybody knows you voted No. And how princuhpuled and based you are.

Never actually provide an alternative.

Repeat several times a year.

And nothing proves how princuhpuled you are than voting against CRs more often when a Republican is in the WH than you do when a Democrat is.

Massie said Catturd was taking money, yet ran away when asked for evidence a year ago.
227   Patrick   2025 Mar 13, 7:08am  

AmericanKulak says

A pattern of Massies: Wait till the last minute, make no provision for alternatives, do not work in advance for alternatives, and announce His Great Princuhpuled Stance





Wait till last minute? That's not true.

Massie is 100% consistent on opposing all spending increases and has been for years.
228   Patrick   2025 Mar 13, 7:09am  

Patrick says

make no provision for alternatives


He also keeps recommending that monster bills get broken up into single-issue bills, and he's right about that too.
229   Patrick   2025 Mar 13, 4:23pm  

Patrick says


https://nitter.poast.org/RepThomasMassie/status/1899577763981365297#m




Exactly as Massie predicted, Democrats will vote for the increased spending. The "conflict" between Dems and Rinos was all bullshit theatrics to maintain the illusion that there are two parties.

There is only the Uniparty of MOAR SPENDING.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schumer-shutdown-two-ways-can-go


Schumer Caves, Tells Senate Dems He'll Vote For GOP Bill
232   Patrick   2025 Mar 13, 5:40pm  

https://educationdojo.com/recent-posts/


Trump will lose libertarians fast if he goes after the tiny few with some actual principles and sanity. I realize it’s tough getting bills passed when you’re dealing with hundreds of DC swamp creatures, but the worst strategy to use is going after libertarian standard bearers who helped deliver a Trump win in 2024. This was a big public relations f*ckup!
234   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 14, 7:59pm  

Did everybody find out who Massie's big Open Border Loving, Border Security Hatin', Tariff Despising Donor is?
235   Ceffer   2025 Mar 14, 10:24pm  

More LOL! Doesn't make sense though unless it is programmed Hegelian Dialectics at work somehow. Looks like one of the coined and subsidized 'billionaires' of the DARPA/Globalist bankster officer class pretending to be self made.



236   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 15, 3:34pm  

Massie COSPONSORED a bill to DOUBLE the family cap allowed to immigrants, and eliminating it ENTIRELY for work visa holders, so they can bring in their Grandma who never paid into SSI but sign her up for it after fake abandoning her. Very Small Government

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