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Numbers USA on Massie



https://grades.numbersusa.com/search/

"Thanks for the money you gave me for being seduced by my big words and no actions! I'm gonna be your new Big Mouth, No Deeds Senator from Kentucky to replace Mitch! Defeat the Uniparty by losing with principles! !"


Massie is the new NeverTrump leader.

Trump has never been tight with spending, but I prefer a measured approach, so let's give him some time and see where we stand wrt deficit in a year or two. Massie will be 10 times better than yurtle the turtle. Numbers USA likely bs. Yurtle certainly didn't vote better than this on immigration:
https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/132068/thomas-massie/40/immigration

Not everyone who opposes Trump on a particular issue is his enemy. Trump's got to dial down the vengeance but trust his paranoia. He's doing this, and I think this is why:

I really think that Trump and Musk now know to a gross extent how deep and extensive the corruption is, and it horrifies them. They have to figure out how many congresspeople they can turn to rat out the worst, then get rid of the rest in the midterm elections. The fact that every member of Congress has gone from six figures net worth to eight figures in 4-5 years means that the corruption is universal. This probably includes Massie as well as Paul.

The Numbers USA number are accurate; Massey usually finds a reason to vote no on border enforcement bills.

I'm thoroughly convinced Massie is a Koch Tool to weaken MAGA from the "Right"/"Libertarian" Flank.

When I see Massie being practical for today, not principled for the far off fantasy future, I'll change my mind.

Noticing a pattern among Massie boosters:



A pattern of Massies: Wait till the last minute, make no provision for alternatives, do not work in advance for alternatives, and announce His Great Princuhpuled Stance

10 Print "MAGA: So what Budgets will Massie write that 7 Democrats will also vote for?";
20 Print "Massholes: You want the status quo!"
30 GOTO 10

AmericanKulak says

10 Print "MAGA: So what Budgets will Massie write that 7 Democrats will also vote for?";
20 Print "Massholes: You want the status quo!"
30 GOTO 10

Cool, another guy who remembers Commadore 64 BASIC.

AmericanKulak says

The Numbers USA number are accurate; Massey usually finds a reason to vote no on border enforcement bills.

I can't find any indication that yurtles immigration voting record is more conservative than massies, so that reeks of bs, regardless of whether either of them camln be considered effective. Then add in yurtles open border and aid policy wrt ukraine, and it certainly can't be C vs F. Sure looks like he's being targeted

mell says

I can't find any indication that yurtles immigration voting record is more conservative than massies, so that reeks of bs, regardless of whether either of them camln be considered effective. Then add in yurtles open border and aid policy wrt ukraine, and it certainly can't be C vs F. Sure looks like he's being targeted

If anything is Constitutional, the President declaring an emergency with millions of unknown people crossing it in a year is... guarding the US border.

Not what his Koch Brother donors want, though.

Announce a No vote just before the vote.

Vote No.

Never have an alternative bill to offer.

Proudly make sure everybody knows you voted No. And how princuhpuled and based you are.

Never actually provide an alternative.

Repeat several times a year.

And nothing proves how princuhpuled you are than voting against CRs more often when a Republican is in the WH than you do when a Democrat is.

Massie said Catturd was taking money, yet ran away when asked for evidence a year ago.

AmericanKulak says

A pattern of Massies: Wait till the last minute, make no provision for alternatives, do not work in advance for alternatives, and announce His Great Princuhpuled Stance

Wait till last minute? That's not true.

Massie is 100% consistent on opposing all spending increases and has been for years.

Patrick says

make no provision for alternatives

He also keeps recommending that monster bills get broken up into single-issue bills, and he's right about that too.

Patrick says

https://nitter.poast.org/RepThomasMassie/status/1899577763981365297#m

Exactly as Massie predicted, Democrats will vote for the increased spending. The "conflict" between Dems and Rinos was all bullshit theatrics to maintain the illusion that there are two parties.

There is only the Uniparty of MOAR SPENDING.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schumer-shutdown-two-ways-can-go

Schumer Caves, Tells Senate Dems He'll Vote For GOP Bill

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-orders-drone-strike-on-thomas-massie

https://educationdojo.com/recent-posts/

Trump will lose libertarians fast if he goes after the tiny few with some actual principles and sanity. I realize it’s tough getting bills passed when you’re dealing with hundreds of DC swamp creatures, but the worst strategy to use is going after libertarian standard bearers who helped deliver a Trump win in 2024. This was a big public relations f*ckup!

Did everybody find out who Massie's big Open Border Loving, Border Security Hatin', Tariff Despising Donor is?

More LOL! Doesn't make sense though unless it is programmed Hegelian Dialectics at work somehow. Looks like one of the coined and subsidized 'billionaires' of the DARPA/Globalist bankster officer class pretending to be self made.

Massie COSPONSORED a bill to DOUBLE the family cap allowed to immigrants, and eliminating it ENTIRELY for work visa holders, so they can bring in their Grandma who never paid into SSI but sign her up for it after fake abandoning her. Very Small Government

https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1900324662212448349

AmericanKulak says

Massie said Catturd was taking money, yet ran away when asked for evidence a year ago.

This...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/massie-bill-demands-federal-candidates-disclose-dual-citizenship

Seeking to spotlight federal office-seekers who may have a conflict of interest, Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie has introduced a bill that would require candidates for federal office to disclose any non-American citizenships they hold.

"Personally, I don’t think dual citizens should serve in Congress, but I ultimately decided to introduce a transparency bill requiring full disclosure of citizenship," said Massie in a Monday Fox News interview with Will Cain. "Voters can then make the decision." So far, Massie's Dual Loyalty Disclosure Act (HR 2356) has attracted four co-sponsors, all of them Republicans: Andy Biggs (AZ-5), Clay Higgins (LA-3), Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA-14) and Nicholas Begich (AK at-large).

I don't think there is a reliable way to prove that somebody has a second citizenship, so it's pretty safe to not declare.

Koch Brother Mass Migration Massie whinges against tariffs, when not lobbying for cheap unlimited migration labor for his farm.

https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1910083652316246204

Mass Migration Massie on a whinge about Real ID coming from the Patriot Act.

Smarter commenters were interested that Real ID keeps getting delayed and states exempted 20 years later.

Never forget Massie moved Biden's Budget Buster through his committee, giving him over a year of rampant high spending, but wouldn't give Trump a few weeks, not even finalize his appointments.

AmericanKulak says

Smarter commenters were interested that Real ID keeps getting delayed and states exempted 20 years later.

Finally went to the DMV last week to get a Real ID. I made an appointment and uploaded documents online the week before and I was in and out in less than 30 minutes and it cost $36. Fairly impressed with the government efficiency.

Massie one of 8 No-Votes on "Gulf Of America".
https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2025/roll122.xml

The "Gulf Of America" thing did strike me as a bit childish, so I can see his point.

https://classythomasmassie.substack.com/p/thomas-massie-delivers-a-massive

I’d love to stand here and tell the American people “we can cut your taxes and increase spending and everything will be fine.”

But I can’t because I’m here to deliver a dose of reality about the ticking debt bomb known as the “Big Beautiful Bill.

I'm sure Massie is right.

Koch Brother Massie uses the CBO lies to sabotage change and make sure his Master still gets big payola

Where's Massie's bill or bills? 13 years and no results. He's gotta go.

More lies by massie the clown. The debt ceiling is being raised by $4 trillion. For them to add another $16 trillion congress will have to increase the debt ceiling once again in 2 years.

It would also have to increase spending to gobble up the increased revenues generated by tariffs, doge cuts and increased economic activity from the tax cuts.

There are many additional steps required to get to this supposed $20 trillion in new debt besides this bill and congress will have to do all of those steps. This bill actually sets up conditions to decrease the deficit and thus the added debt.
https://x.com/unseen1_unseen/status/1926741959072215320

I'm simply saying massie is lying.This bill does not increase the debt by $20 trillion. It actually cuts spending by $1.63 trillion while securing our border and maybe the homeland with the golden dome. It also sets up conditions for a massive economic private sector boom. Being against this bill because of some fantasy that if it doesn't pass, spending will be stopped is not a good look.
https://x.com/unseen1_unseen/status/1926752081936859216

Massie is the AOC of the GOP. His job is to send Doomers and Grandparents goldbug and debt disaster doom letters to get them to donate to the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus in turn donates to candidates that GOP insiders want to see win.

Patrick says

Like he didn't on his 2023 Limit, Save, Grow Act where he not only voted yes, but cleared the total unlimited debt ceiling and extra spending bill out of his committee by casting the TIE BREAKING VOTE.

The pathetic 1% cut he used as cover to excuse his fiscal irresponsibility was axed from the final bill as passed.

Massie: Ball Licker on Biden Budgets, Ball Buster on the BBB.

Watch what they do, not what they grandstand and gesticulate.

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Massie’s 2023 committee vote reflects the systemic rot in D.C.—career politicians on both sides rubber-stamp debt hikes to avoid tough choices. Under Biden, weak Republicans folded to keep the gravy train rolling. Now, with Trump demanding fiscal sanity, Massie’s opposition highlights how the swamp resists accountability.

The real fix? Audit every line, slash bureaucratic bloat, and prioritize border security over debt addiction.

https://x.com/dogeai_gov/status/1930727779521143135

Once you understand why Massie votes one way and talks another, you see how he acts on behalf of his David Koch master to stop cuts, stop tax cuts for wage earners, definitely stop tariffs but keep the subisides, tax cuts, and tax credits for big business like Koch.

Patrick says

"America is a Heinleinian Free Trade Zone of von Mises! Not a country. More H1Bs, More families of H1Bs with work permits! More Mexican workers! No Tariffs! Keep the income tax but expand corporate tax cuts! - Massie