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PII = Personal Identifiable Information

Could you please not use undefined acronyms in the top-level post of a thread?

best part, my weapons are unregistered self made. fuck ca government.

this is why every gun should be unregistered, less they know, better

I thought we're all programmers here? I actually prefer to be cryptic in hopes people will read the source material. Fuck headline news reading, inspect my sources!

Unfortunately FFL is required to submit my info to Feds Being Idiots for background checking when we pick up the gun, so I dont know how we can remain anonymous. After getting Texas LTC there is no need for background checks which is highly convenient, but getting LTC required identification.

In Phoenix I show them my license, which expires when I'm 65, and confirm it's my current address. Put same info on Fed check, and I'm off. They know my name, and where I bought my gun, but that's about it.

Way to bury the lede...
The full concealed carry permit database was not directly available through the interactive dashboard, but on Monday users could navigate to a menu allowing them to download nearly 600,000 records. The file included the full legal name, birthdate, home address, age and, if specified, race and ethnicity of at least 242,727 individual applicants. Among those applicants, at least 140 are current or former judges.
“It is infuriating that people who have been complying with the law have been put at risk by this breach,” Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea, president of the California State Sheriffs’ Association, said in a statement today.
https://calmatters.org/justice/criminal-justice/2022/06/california-concealed-carry/
Wonder how many lawmakers were on that list?

EBGuy says

Way to bury the lede...
The full concealed carry permit database was not directly available through the interactive dashboard, but on Monday users could navigate to a menu allowing them to download nearly 600,000 records. The file included the full legal name, birthdate, home address, age and, if specified, race and ethnicity of at least 242,727 individual applicants. Among those applicants, at least 140 are current or former judges.
“It is infuriating that people who have been complying with the law have been put at risk by this breach,” Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea, president of the California State Sheriffs’ Association, said in a statement today.
https://calmatters.org/justice/criminal-justice/2022/06/california-concealed-carry/
Wonder how many lawmakers were on that list?

Also James Gallagher sent a nice nasty gram to the AG and the Governor over this....
Hope CRPA can sue the fuck out of the state.

What are they going to do - go to your home and try to kill you, when you have a guns galore?

Maybe it's more subtle - like swatting everyone on the list. Have the Popo do your dirty work.

stereotomy says

What are they going to do - go to your home and try to kill you, when you have a guns galore?

That was my thought too. Are people really going to fuck with someone who is known to be armed?

NuttBoxer says

wouldn't be my physical residence, as no one ever gets that

@NuttBoxers What about your phone? Even if it says GPS is off, it's actually still available to the phone maker, the govt, and whatever apps have permission to get it (and probably some that don't).

Patrick says

stereotomy says

What are they going to do - go to your home and try to kill you, when you have a guns galore?

That was my thought too. Are people really going to fuck with someone who is known to be armed?

I do not think the doxxing is about physical attacks, I think it is to identify gun owners to bosses, schools, and businesses. That way a boss can pass you over or lay you off, your kids can be denied access to a local private school, and so on.

This is really just a matter of privacy, gun ownership is a side issue. Ever had a stalker, or someone you just didn't want to know where you live? Now with this leak, maybe they do. The worst impact would actually be any LEO's who showed up in the list. Many of them never reveal where they live due to line of work. Exposing their data could force them to have to move.

Patrick says

What about your phone? Even if it says GPS is off, it's actually still available to the phone maker, the govt, and whatever apps have permission to get it (and probably some that don't).

My phone is a VOIP line setup using an email and name that ties back to a fictional person with a VERY common name. The payments are made using a gift card I buy with cash. When I had a cell, was the same story. Purchased off Ebay using an email not tied to me, going to a name that's not mine, and using a gift card I got with cash. The only people who have our info are the management company for our complex, and they local. The owner is literally a lady I can call if I have issues with the on-site manager, her sister in law.

Ohh, and my voip is forced through a VPN, so VOIP provider gets an LA IP, and has an LA address on file.

Collecting GPS info on a person who doesn't exist isn't very useful. If they want to know who it is, they have to monitor all my calls and my families calls to figure it out, or send someone to watch me and scan my plates. Possible, definitely, a hassle, undoubtedly, costly, enough to discourage most people who aren't dead set on getting me. So unless I become a person of interest to someone very powerful, no one will ever find me unless I want them to.

NuttBoxer says

Collecting GPS info on a person who doesn't exist isn't very useful. If they want to know who it is, they have to monitor all my calls and my families calls to figure it out, or send someone to watch me and scan my plates. Possible, definitely, a hassle, undoubtedly, costly, enough to discourage most people who aren't dead set on getting me. So unless I become a person of interest to someone very powerful, no one will ever find me unless I want them to.

Great post.

Also why keeping in mind for hypothetical scenarios why couriers and drop sites are better than electronic comms.

1 person can monitor countless electronic comms, depending on the level of oversight desired. Even with surrupticious cameras and bugs, 1 person can only monitor a handful of humans communicating by non-electronic methods at best, and that far from omnipresent.

1 person can monitor countless electronic comms, depending on the level of oversight desired. Even with surrupticious cameras and bugs, 1 person can only monitor a handful of humans communicating by non-electronic methods at best, and that far from omnipresent.

YES!! This may seem obvious and trivial, but understanding and applying this single concept would take down the entire system. To quote one of my favorite movies, "Thumbs up their asses."