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zzyzzx says

I understand that Japan is so fucking crowded that the population could decline for decades before anyone would even notice.

This. It is not a "demographic crisis" because the population stabilizes or even shrinks a little. The US was fine with a population of 200 million and would still be fine if we had a slow decline to that level again over the next few decades.

zzyzzx says

understand that Japan is so fucking crowded that the population could decline for decades before anyone would even notice.

In the big cities, yes. They are actually increasing a bit in population as the few youth Japan produces flee there as the Villages and towns die off.

The problem is not a smaller population, but when the population reduces while the old are spending more than the younger generations, if any, can pay in. The way we kick down growing debt onto younger generations is a ponzi scheme.

The other problem with a declining population - and the REAL reason the top .01% are trying to import immigrants like mad into Europe and North America - is that there won't be enough buyers of used housing, and rents will decline substantially.

However, the housing price decline is what enables the natural rebound as it becomes cheaper to live and support a larger family.

The next 10 years is going to be fascinating between boomers leaving their homes due to death/health, Millennials not wanting or needing such large properties, and the general lack of wealth in younger generations due to debt spending and wage supression.

AmericanKulak says

Millennials not wanting or needing such large properties

Mini-mansions will be converted into multi-family apartments.

HeadSet says

Mini-mansions will be converted into multi-family apartments.

Over time; the living dwellers of mini-mansions will not want their neighboring property converted to a multi-family.

"I didn't spend $700k to live next to an apartment building! We don't want those people coming through the gates! Stay out of our tennis court and clubhouse! The school district needs to keep out the riff--- uh, I subscribe to PBS! We control the zoning board!"

Now the kids will be like "How can I monetize McMansion dad left me?" So I agree it will happen, but it'll be a rocky road with fits and starts.

AmericanKulak says

Now the kids will be like "How can I monetize McMansion dad left me?

And "How the devil am I going to pay those real estate taxes, HOA fees, and lawn service?" Also maybe "How do I get rid of the squatters?"

HeadSet says

And "How the devil am I going to pay those real estate taxes, HOA fees, and lawn service?" Also maybe "How do I get rid of the squatters?"

So much fun is coming.

The HOAs and Condo Assocs having to double monthlies in order to build reserves to handle structural issues is not helping Condos sell in Port Saint Joe and Naples with 7% 30-year loans on top.

I think I posted the association that was talking about bank loans, loans against 401ksm etc to pay $10k now in lieu of $300 monthly assessments extra for the next 3 years.

Here is everything you need to know about population decline :

It would drive wages up.

That's it.

The fact that this would only result in a temporary decline in corporate profits (eventually prices would be increased to support increased wages) just goes to show you how absolutely evil these corporate motherfuckers are. They will turn this nation into a third world shithole just to maintain their performance based compensation on a quarterly basis.

God damn right Japan can have a shrinking population and manage just fine - except the conglomerates might take a hit to EPS for a dozen quarters.

God damn right the U.S. would be a better country right now if our population was 240 million.

I'm getting tired of being polite.

AmericanKulak says

HeadSet says

And "How the devil am I going to pay those real estate taxes, HOA fees, and lawn service?" Also maybe "How do I get rid of the squatters?"

So much fun is coming.

The HOAs and Condo Assocs having to double monthlies in order to build reserves to handle structural issues is not helping Condos sell in Port Saint Joe and Naples with 7% 30-year loans on top.

I think I posted the association that was talking about bank loans, loans against 401ksm etc to pay $10k now in lieu of $300 monthly assessments extra for the next 3 years.

On the upside they're canning the climate change committees left and right at the HOAs, we ain't got no money for this shit!

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Best way is to move more people near cold area where there is little to no sun. Natural selection will make ppl white so body can get solar to make vitamin D.

stfu says

The fact that this would only result in a temporary decline in corporate profits (eventually prices would be increased to support increased wages) just goes to show you how absolutely evil these corporate motherfuckers are. They will turn this nation into a third world shithole just to maintain their performance based compensation on a quarterly basis.

God damn right Japan can have a shrinking population and manage just fine - except the conglomerates might take a hit to EPS for a dozen quarters.

God damn right the U.S. would be a better country right now if our population was 240 million.

Preach.

Population Booms keep Wages low and rents high.

So what if we only have 1.75 kids per woman for a few generations? Will only make housing cheaper (but generally older) and wages "sticky upwards".

AmericanKulak says

The next 10 years is going to be fascinating between boomers leaving their homes due to death/health, Millennials not wanting or needing such large properties, and the general lack of wealth in younger generations due to debt spending and wage supression.

No, corporations are just buying houses. What part of "you will own nothing and be happy" don't you understand?

^^^^^^
What's even scarier is the sex ratio in those two countries. IIRC, it's something like 60/40 M/F - this will be the cause of WWIII - the search for bitches.

stereotomy says

^^^^^^
What's even scarier is the sex ratio in those two countries. IIRC, it's something like 60/40 M/F - this will be the cause of WWIII - the search for bitches.

Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laosian and Thai women, specifically. All China has to do is put 30 or so million unmarried men in uniform, equip them and send them south.

They'll kill all the males and breed with the females. They enslaved the male Uighurs and forced the women to marry them already.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

They enslaved the male Uighurs and forced the women to marry them already.

Very few including China understands that Islam is all about just a stone soup. They do it to get away from the Islamic enforced enslavement.
No satanic media ever complain or even mention it!

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/if-you-want-to-afford-a-home-they

Essentially every single Western state is grappling with simultaneous crises in fertility and cost-of-living, with the latter being most cruelly exemplified by the outrageous price of real estate. Starter homes are an impossible dream even for those young people who manage to secure what used to be considered a middle-class income. As a result they don’t get married and start families. Are there other factors? Cultural, religious, and so forth? No-fault divorce laws? Feminism? Atheism and nihilism? Yes, absolutely.

But until the economic factors are fixed none of that stuff matters. Most people – most white people, at least – aren’t going to have babies if they can’t afford a house.

Patrick says

Essentially every single Western state is grappling with simultaneous crises in fertility and cost-of-living, with the latter being most cruelly exemplified by the outrageous price of real estate.

If the population were truly stabilizing, the price of houses would naturally decline.

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/musings-on-the-department-of-defense

https://substack.com/@whitepapersinstitute/note/c-60644571

California has undergone a transformation from one of the most homogeneous societies in the world to one of the most diverse and dysfunctional.

In the 1950s California was a 94% White society, sported one of the wealthiest middle classes in the world, and topped the rankings in safety, educational attainment and scientific accomplishment.

Today, California is a 34.7% White society which tops the national rankings in homelessness, housing prices, cost of living, and property crime.

And California's once-shining cities reflect the state of the state.

Patrick says

California has undergone a transformation

Yeah Patrick. I see California is 37 in the US News rankings for public K-12. I remember when California was was always ranked in top 10 back going back about 30 years ago.

Also California is ranked 37 overall as far as various factors or measures like education, economy, crime, opportunity, environment, etc.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california

Florida is ranked 10 for public K-12. I remember when Florida was stuck at a ranking of 24 back when I remember following education rankings at least 30 years ago.

Below is the education rankings link

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

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My only critique of the 1950 chart is that most Mexicans who could remotely pass for White called themselves White, so probably 85% White. We all know about how prickly many Latin Americans are at home about emphasizing their Whiteness there, but their "Hispanidad" here.

Still, that's ovewhelmingly White.

If you want to be really stunned, check out the Black population of NYC in 1940 or 1950 vs. 1970.

stfu says

Here is everything you need to know about population decline :

It would drive wages up.

And housing assets down.

AmericanKulak says

most Mexicans who could remotely pass for White

You know different Mexicans than I do. I have a seen a few White looking Mexicans, but overwhelmingly they have the same paint job as Indians.

HeadSet says

You know different Mexicans than I do. I have a seen a few White looking Mexicans, but overwhelmingly they gave the same paint job as Indians.

I know quite a few who could not only pass as Italians or Greeks, but some as Northern Europeans.

But yes, I agree, most you see are on the Indian side of the Mix.

However, I've only been in California twice and less than a week combined, so I'm meeting more a different group of Mexicans.

HeadSet says

You know different Mexicans than I do. I have a seen a few White looking Mexicans, but overwhelmingly they have the same paint job as Indians.

Yeah, they have a lot more indigenous (Mayan, Aztec, etc) DNA than Spaniard / European DNA.

They may also have traces of African DNA since there were slaves in Mexico.

The Central Americans and Mexicans I see building the 3 story apartments and working landscaping look like they could be extras in Mel Gibson's Apocalypto.

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The solution:

My Irish baby factory aunt had 12 and a score of miscarriages. Old school. If you tossed the sperm across the room, they'd crank out another subhuman.

I had a client woman who did surrogacies for money. She had several of her own and five surrogacies. She was blond, pretty, and physically fit and tight as a drum even after all those deliveries. She liked being pregnant. I suppose for some, it's a hormonal high.

https://eccentrik.substack.com/p/a-new-black-death-is-upon-us




I bet that Israel is an outlier solely because of the ultra-orthodox birth rate and the Palestinians. I think Israel is about 20% Palestinian not even counting the West Bank or Gaza.