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WookieMan
2025 May 20, 12:21pm
WookieMan
2025 May 20, 12:21pm
socal2 says
Boomers die, entitlements are done. Gas tax handles roads for now until the states or Fed puts an EV tax on owners for the roads. They're heavier and do more damage to the roads. It's coming. This isn't an arguable topic. My wife has had talks with JB Fat Ass here in IL.
Either way illegals aren't paying the entitlements anyway. Roads a little bit, unless they're some hip illegal that got an EV.
The left constantly shoots itself in the foot. Green is the future. Oh fuck, we need roads and ICE vehicles pay that. Your overpriced EV just got more expensive with electric taxes. You registration fees will go through the roof in the next 2-5 years. Either or. $500-1k/year. Or at this point they can track your mileage, location or anything and just toll you on any road.
We can sustain without the illegals just fine. Just need replacement kids which is relatively easy. Get people out of cities. There's no community. No connection to the real world. This includes massive suburbs of 50k+. Work on your own yard and not some illegal landscaper. Get some exercise so you're not fat. We don't need this cheap labor. We'll do just fine.
Who is going to pay the taxes to maintain roads and entitlements if we continue to have less children?
Boomers die, entitlements are done. Gas tax handles roads for now until the states or Fed puts an EV tax on owners for the roads. They're heavier and do more damage to the roads. It's coming. This isn't an arguable topic. My wife has had talks with JB Fat Ass here in IL.
Either way illegals aren't paying the entitlements anyway. Roads a little bit, unless they're some hip illegal that got an EV.
The left constantly shoots itself in the foot. Green is the future. Oh fuck, we need roads and ICE vehicles pay that. Your overpriced EV just got more expensive with electric taxes. You registration fees will go through the roof in the next 2-5 years. Either or. $500-1k/year. Or at this point they can track your mileage, location or anything and just toll you on any road.
We can sustain without the illegals just fine. Just need replacement kids which is relatively easy. Get people out of cities. There's no community. No connection to the real world. This includes massive suburbs of 50k+. Work on your own yard and not some illegal landscaper. Get some exercise so you're not fat. We don't need this cheap labor. We'll do just fine.
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ForcedTQ
2025 May 20, 12:57pm
socal2 says
Not going to happen in the foreseeable future, it’s too expensive for 60% of society to raise children…
zzyzzx says
I dispute the assumption that a population decline is a bad thing. Why do some people object to affordable housing and traffic free roads?
Who is going to pay the taxes to maintain roads and entitlements if we continue to have less children? We are already getting lopsided with more and more Boomers retiring and less able bodied workers to support entitlements.
Also, once we start this path, it doesn't take long to enter a doom loop unless we get a new generation willing to have 4+ kids to make up for the previous.
Not going to happen in the foreseeable future, it’s too expensive for 60% of society to raise children…
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socal2
2025 May 20, 1:07pm
WookieMan says
Yeah - but we still have 3+ decades before all the Boomers die off. I plan on retiring well before then and don't want to see the Government raiding my Social Security,reducing my future benefits or importing a bunch of 3rd world migrants because Americans foolishly bought into the Malthusian overpopulation myth and now there isn't enough of us to pay the bills.
Boomers die, entitlements are done
Yeah - but we still have 3+ decades before all the Boomers die off. I plan on retiring well before then and don't want to see the Government raiding my Social Security,reducing my future benefits or importing a bunch of 3rd world migrants because Americans foolishly bought into the Malthusian overpopulation myth and now there isn't enough of us to pay the bills.
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WookieMan
2025 May 20, 1:28pm
WookieMan
2025 May 20, 1:28pm
socal2 says
ALL is the key word. They're dying off faster than you think. They're no longer the largest generation. You lost a lot to big Pharma and other drugs along the way in the younger years. I'd say in 10 years 50% of boomers born in that time will be dead.
Basically your entitlement will be there. Boomers pay more into it than illegals because a good amount couldn't retire. Illegals help nothing besides big business that can hide them in payroll. Then service industries that have lots of physical cash flow like restaurants. They don't pay SS or medicare.
Ultimately if you're freaking out about money as you age, you didn't plan/save well. Illegals have nothing to do with that.
Yeah - but we still have 3+ decades before all the Boomers die off.
ALL is the key word. They're dying off faster than you think. They're no longer the largest generation. You lost a lot to big Pharma and other drugs along the way in the younger years. I'd say in 10 years 50% of boomers born in that time will be dead.
Basically your entitlement will be there. Boomers pay more into it than illegals because a good amount couldn't retire. Illegals help nothing besides big business that can hide them in payroll. Then service industries that have lots of physical cash flow like restaurants. They don't pay SS or medicare.
Ultimately if you're freaking out about money as you age, you didn't plan/save well. Illegals have nothing to do with that.
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Patrick
2025 May 20, 2:02pm
Patrick
2025 May 20, 2:02pm
WookieMan says
Even better, transform that front lawn into a garden and get:
1. exercise
2. sun
3. food
4. savings on food and landscaping
5. connection to nature, knowing how things grow
Work on your own yard and not some illegal landscaper. Get some exercise so you're not fat.
Even better, transform that front lawn into a garden and get:
1. exercise
2. sun
3. food
4. savings on food and landscaping
5. connection to nature, knowing how things grow
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HeadSet
2025 May 20, 5:24pm
HeadSet
2025 May 20, 5:24pm
Patrick says
Yep, and see how insects, rabbits, squirrels and deer raid your garden.
connection to nature, knowing how things grow
Yep, and see how insects, rabbits, squirrels and deer raid your garden.
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WookieMan
2025 May 20, 6:47pm
WookieMan
2025 May 20, 6:47pm
HeadSet says
Raised beds and fences on the property lines. We've had no issues. So no deer. Insects aren't an issue here. Rabbits and squirrels for whatever reason don't get in. I had to toss a ton of pickled veggies about 3 months ago. I've gotta do the long term method. We grow too much. New house we'll have to get a 3rd fridge and 2nd freezer.
Could argue the electric bill, but seeds cost nothing. About to plant some sweet corn tomorrow now that we got some rain. Already late but whatever. We've had no rain. We'll be moving early summer, so will have to make the daily trip back to the garden. They still have to grade so I can't do much at the new house.
Patrick says
connection to nature, knowing how things grow
Yep, and see how insects, rabbits, squirrels and deer raid your garden.
Raised beds and fences on the property lines. We've had no issues. So no deer. Insects aren't an issue here. Rabbits and squirrels for whatever reason don't get in. I had to toss a ton of pickled veggies about 3 months ago. I've gotta do the long term method. We grow too much. New house we'll have to get a 3rd fridge and 2nd freezer.
Could argue the electric bill, but seeds cost nothing. About to plant some sweet corn tomorrow now that we got some rain. Already late but whatever. We've had no rain. We'll be moving early summer, so will have to make the daily trip back to the garden. They still have to grade so I can't do much at the new house.
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B.A.C.A.H.
2025 May 21, 6:11am
B.A.C.A.H.
2025 May 21, 6:11am
Patrick says
Not to worry. Muslims in Russia are having babies above replacement. An AI query I typed this week said it's 2.3 per Muslim woman. Coming soon: Islamic Federation of Russia.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/05/russia-will-be-one-third-muslim-in-15-years-chief-mufti-predicts-a64706
RUSSIA’S BIRTH RATE JUST FELL TO A 200-YEAR LOW—AND NOW IT’S A STATE SECRET
Russia is running out of people.
Births dropped so sharply this year that officials stopped publishing monthly numbers. A top demographer says March 2025 may have had the fewest births since the 1700s.
Not to worry. Muslims in Russia are having babies above replacement. An AI query I typed this week said it's 2.3 per Muslim woman. Coming soon: Islamic Federation of Russia.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/05/russia-will-be-one-third-muslim-in-15-years-chief-mufti-predicts-a64706
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WookieMan
2025 May 21, 7:30am
WookieMan
2025 May 21, 7:30am
B.A.C.A.H. says
I honestly haven't studied Russia. Does this include the caucus states/countries? Russia is a weird animal from my perception. Nukes are an issue, but I've never feared Russia. All Muslims have been nice to me, but I'm not certain control of Russian nukes would be a good thing if they got to 1/3rd of population.
Patrick says
RUSSIA’S BIRTH RATE JUST FELL TO A 200-YEAR LOW—AND NOW IT’S A STATE SECRET
Russia is running out of people.
Births dropped so sharply this year that officials stopped publishing monthly numbers. A top demographer says March 2025 may have had the fewest births since the 1700s.
Not to worry. Muslims in Russia are having babies above replacement. An AI query I typed this week said it's 2.3 per Muslim woman. Coming soon: Islamic Federation of Russia.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/05/russia-will-be-one-third-muslim-in-15-years-chief-mufti-predicts-a64706
I honestly haven't studied Russia. Does this include the caucus states/countries? Russia is a weird animal from my perception. Nukes are an issue, but I've never feared Russia. All Muslims have been nice to me, but I'm not certain control of Russian nukes would be a good thing if they got to 1/3rd of population.
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Patrick
2025 May 24, 9:15am
Patrick
2025 May 24, 9:15am
B.A.C.A.H. says
They need to be introduced to feminism.
Muslims in Russia are having babies above replacement.
They need to be introduced to feminism.
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yawaraf
2025 May 24, 6:37pm
Patrick says
A few decades ago human population showed positive growth and people correctly concluded that if it would continue unchecked, the earth would get overcrowded. Now, in some parts of the world there is negative population growth, and again, should this trend not change, the population would eventually die out.
It should now be clear that there is no reason to believe the rate of change of the human population will stay constant, and it is shortsighted to conclude, based on birth rates alone, that people will die out. There are hundreds of millions of people in Europe, they would still be prosperous if they had ⅒ of the population.
However, to preserve the culture and the quality of life, I think there need to be some political changes:
A few decades ago human population showed positive growth and people correctly concluded that if it would continue unchecked, the earth would get overcrowded. Now, in some parts of the world there is negative population growth, and again, should this trend not change, the population would eventually die out.
It should now be clear that there is no reason to believe the rate of change of the human population will stay constant, and it is shortsighted to conclude, based on birth rates alone, that people will die out. There are hundreds of millions of people in Europe, they would still be prosperous if they had ⅒ of the population.
However, to preserve the culture and the quality of life, I think there need to be some political changes:
- strong army to defend from possible invasion
- limit immigration to a small percentage of the population
- normalize short working schedules for women, for example 4 hour days
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Fortwaye
2025 May 24, 7:37pm
when america had 200m people it was making everything, when it got to 330m corporate said there aren’t enough workers and we need more illegals to import customers.
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WookieMan
2025 May 25, 5:34pm
WookieMan
2025 May 25, 5:34pm
yawaraf says
Agree with this 100%. Some women are solid workers, most can't do the stuff that needs to be done day to day though. It should work both ways though if roles were reversed and the lady is a powerful attorney or something like that.
At least one parent needs to be there for their kids. Work part time during the school days. That's my situation. Basically 2 of them are straight A students. 2 are state qualifiers in sports. One all state already. The youngest is a touch slow, not autistic and gets above average grades, but I think dads are better parents is the point.
Obviously we need manual labor that men are going to have to do. But being an insurance agent or some other service sales job as a man? I'd rather be with my kids. I think being a car salesman is more gay than being a stay at home dad that gets side gigs.
normalize short working schedules for women, for example 4 hour days
Agree with this 100%. Some women are solid workers, most can't do the stuff that needs to be done day to day though. It should work both ways though if roles were reversed and the lady is a powerful attorney or something like that.
At least one parent needs to be there for their kids. Work part time during the school days. That's my situation. Basically 2 of them are straight A students. 2 are state qualifiers in sports. One all state already. The youngest is a touch slow, not autistic and gets above average grades, but I think dads are better parents is the point.
Obviously we need manual labor that men are going to have to do. But being an insurance agent or some other service sales job as a man? I'd rather be with my kids. I think being a car salesman is more gay than being a stay at home dad that gets side gigs.
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yawaraf
2025 May 25, 9:03pm
WookieMan says
You said it better and I did. The household with two parents with full-time employment should become the exception. This can be framed independent of the parent's sex, but I suspect for most families, and especially when the children are very young, mothers would assume the role of the primary care-giver.
At least one parent needs to be there for their kids. Work part time during the school days.
You said it better and I did. The household with two parents with full-time employment should become the exception. This can be framed independent of the parent's sex, but I suspect for most families, and especially when the children are very young, mothers would assume the role of the primary care-giver.
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Patrick
2025 Jun 11, 3:57pm
Patrick
2025 Jun 11, 3:57pm
https://sukwan.substack.com/p/midweek-memes-807
There are some good researchers in this space who do broad overviews that I like, such as CM27874...
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