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Why memes are so effective


               
2022 Jul 22, 6:32pm   66,803 views  585 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-revenge-of-the-shape-rotators

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-revenge-of-the-shape-rotators-735

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-revenge-of-the-shape-rotators-a5e


lying with taut talking points or evocative images is easy. hell, that’s what they’re for.

but memes that lie mostly do not work.

they are not funny or evocative because the analogy fails. it’s code that won’t compile. only that which draws valid comparison sets off the associational informational cascade that leads to the vast enhancements in informational density that make this modality special.

and without that your meme loses its potency.

you can only tell people so much in a brief span.

that’s why they call it an “attention economy.”

the true meme gets you to run code you already have installed.

that’s why it is so powerful and why its effect cumulate.

we are just starting to see the capability of this jump in communication evolution.

it will shake worlds.

and this is a glorious thing.

it skewers everything.

no one is safe.

(not even if they were promised that there would be a monkey to help them)

the speed with which this can pour a spicy glass of “shut the hell up” and provoke real thought by eliciting and evoking analogy is unprecedented as is the sublime, anarchic free market to select and spread the best means of doing so.

once, the powers that be needed fear only a few cartoonists and voices and could easily suppress their spread. now you must fight against the full force of the insight and creativity of the global myriads and the relentless upvote of the informational instantiations which best work to convey meaning as infallibly adjudicated by an audience of billions that play off one another like jazz night at birdland.


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1   HeadSet   @   2022 Jul 22, 8:00pm  

Patrick says

but memes that lie mostly do not work.

Example to the contrary:

"Know why you never got polio? CAUSE YOUR MOM HAD YOU VACCINATED."

This unfortunately worked when the Covid jab came out, despite the obvious logic flaws. Too many people think that the Covid shot is in the same league as a polio or measles shot because it also is delivered by syringe.
2   Hircus   @   2022 Jul 22, 8:36pm  

HunterTits says

But 99% of Left meme attempts fall flat.


So true. I think one of the few left memes I ever laughed at was when they made fun of Trump using a big marker to write on a map of the usa around the time of some looming storm in SE states. But I have a feeling those memes were probably actually created by one of the few conservatives/independents who became disillusioned with trump.
5   Patrick   @   2022 Jul 23, 8:31am  





but look at those temperatures closely. they’re lower, not higher. it’s not the world that changed, it’s the manner in which the world is being presented. this has long worked to mislead, but this ability is failing, supplanted by a new memetic technology.

memes like the one above are anti-propagandistic gold. their informational density is surreal and they lay plain not only how shabby this trick is but how the trick is done so you can more easily spot the next one. best, they teach away from the provocative image that previously evoked fear or rage and invert it so that the same image in the future now screams “they are manipulating you” instead.

it’s an entire argument, indictment, and informational immune booster in one simple medium.

memes are changing everything.
6   Patrick   @   2022 Jul 23, 8:36am  

welcome to the age where you can devastate a whole movement with one well chosen flourish:



for perhaps the first time in history, we have the template to refute big lies more quickly and more comprehensively than they can be told.
7   Patrick   @   2022 Jul 23, 8:43am  






the prior impact is effaced and replaced by the new (and yet retains its power). the old images, even unaltered, wind up inverted in significance because the new ones are more compelling, more memorable, and evoke greater meaning.

where once they evoked status, they now cry fraud.

it’s dazzlingly effective and it multiplies and expands to suck in all adjacent energy.




and, let’s face it, this is way more fun.




there is just nowhere to hide from this. the ridicule and linkage is too intense, too fast, and mutates too rapidly consuming everything you try to use against it.

no sooner do you utter the phrase “malign creativity” than there are 200 memes that have adopted it as their own gleefully boomeranging it back at you.

all information is meme-fodder and the jiujitsu of using the power of someone’s own images against them has a wonderful feeling of turnabout being fair play.

and striking back in response to this is difficult.

fighting humor with stridence is a terrible look.

that’s as low status as it gets.

never bring outrage to a meme fight.

they so desperately want to stop this because they cannot compete with it.
8   richwicks   @   2022 Jul 23, 8:50am  

Patrick says

for perhaps the first time in history, we have the template to refute big lies more quickly and more comprehensively than they can be told.


And in my opinion, that was the whole point in making the Internet.

It's also why there's so much censorship, but that effort will fail.

It is said that Zbigniew Brzezinski coined the term of "a great awakening" where he fretted that in time the populace would realize they are largely lied to and systematically propagandized into harming themselves and being taken advantage of. Before I'm dead, I expect we'll be there and I honestly think this may have been Trump's biggest legacy, whether he intended it or not.
9   Patrick   @   2022 Jul 23, 9:01am  

OMG, this is brilliant and I think a great illustration of the power of turning the lies and stupidity of wokeness against itself:

https://notthebee.com/article/i-wont-apologize


I don't know for sure that he's the one who originated it, but writer Matt Walsh has certainly popularized this increasing tendency among online conservatives. Whenever a leftist or progressive revolutionary weighs in on an issue or offers a condemning retort, the response is to quote tweet with the phrase "pronouns in bio."

The point being that someone who fastidiously toes the line of what's-happening-now to the degree that they feel it necessary or even morally responsible to tell everyone what pronouns they use for themselves is not someone in whose wisdom we should place much confidence.

As I said, the trend is catching on, and as much as they pretend it doesn't bother them, it routinely evokes some of the most indignant responses.


Just quoting a wokie and adding "pronouns in bio" is more devastating than "OK, boomer" ever was.

It's the kind of jujitsu that el gato malo was talking about. How can they fight the weight of their own stupidity?
10   richwicks   @   2022 Jul 23, 9:02am  

HunterTits says


HeadSet says


Example to the contrary:


Oh, there are exceptions. Make me laugh, too.

But 99% of Left meme attempts fall flat.



I'll say something that I bet more than 95% of the people here will disagree with. The left was the first to create the art of memes







They weren't trying to be funny in my opinion back then, they were trying to wake "the right" up. Bush really was awful. I think a lot of people forget this, or still deny it.

11   richwicks   @   2022 Jul 23, 9:04am  

HunterTits says

Patrick says


for perhaps the first time in history, we have the template to refute big lies more quickly and more comprehensively than they can be told.


This is why they ban memes in Europe.


They can ban whatever they like in Europe. Just make a website in the United States. Their laws don't apply here.
12   richwicks   @   2022 Jul 23, 9:35am  

HunterTits says

Yes. Back before they all collectively went insane. Or were just starting to.


I think quite a few of them just stayed where they were and let what they thought were principled, moral people, go along like bulls with a nose ring being led.

The reason I remember the memes of those times, is I created a few.

If we get a new Neocon "republican" president, he will suck, and you will see quite quickly how fast the worm turns and it will be "the right can't meme" in short order.
14   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2022 Jul 23, 6:18pm  

richwicks says

I'll say something that I bet more than 95% of the people here will disagree with. The left was the first to create the art of memes

Yeah, I gotta disagree. Leftist memes pretty much all suck.

They also called Reagan Hitler, too. And Nixon I think, but I wasn't alive then so I'm not sure.
15   Bd6r   @   2022 Jul 23, 7:52pm  

Rare to see more than 1 conservative sticker on truck. Usually just FJB or trump won or trump 2024 around here. Lefties on other hand plaster their puny cars with tens of stickers.
16   richwicks   @   2022 Jul 24, 8:16am  

Bd6r says

Rare to see more than 1 conservative sticker on truck. Usually just FJB or trump won or trump 2024 around here. Lefties on other hand plaster their puny cars with tens of stickers.


I think the screw up, except for "Trump '20", is that none of those bumper stickers are real.

https://www.amazon.com/conservative-bumper-stickers/s?k=conservative+bumper+stickers

Really, the cartoonist was AFRAID to put up authentic stickers.
17   Bd6r   @   2022 Jul 24, 8:51am  

richwicks says

Really, the cartoonist was AFRAID to put up authentic stickers.

Yeah, other than trump 20 I have not seen any of those. T shirt also is fake. Lately driving around TX countryside I also see explicit Fuck Biden stickers.
18   HeadSet   @   2022 Jul 24, 8:53am  

richwicks says

I think the screw up, except for "Trump '20", is that none of those bumper stickers are real.

Yep, when building a straw man the author cannot use facts.

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