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WookieMan
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2022 Jul 27, 5:33am
WookieMan
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2022 Jul 27, 5:33am
ohomen171 says
Is this really good news? More war? I'm not some hippy type, but just sell the fucking land to Russia and move on. This is one of the dumbest conflicts I've seen in my lifetime and I've seen quite a few as a younger user here with the ME.
The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you. Slovakia is just about ready to donate 11 Mig-29s to Ukraine. US defense officials have changed their minds and are ready to give US jet fighters and ground attack aircraft to the Ukraine Air Force. They have told Ukraine officials: "Tell us what planes you want and we will work out a deal."
Is this really good news? More war? I'm not some hippy type, but just sell the fucking land to Russia and move on. This is one of the dumbest conflicts I've seen in my lifetime and I've seen quite a few as a younger user here with the ME.
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clambo
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2022 Jul 27, 6:15am
Good.
I hope Ukraine strikes back hard and kicks their ass.
Nobody wants to be ruled by the assholes in the Kremlin.
I hope Ukraine strikes back hard and kicks their ass.
Nobody wants to be ruled by the assholes in the Kremlin.
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richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 7:01am
richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 7:01am
clambo says
The people in the Donbass do. They have twice petitioned Russia to absorb them. Russia declined realizing this would have lead to war, but since Ukraine kept appealing to join NATO, and NATO didn't flatly refuse, and was arming Ukraine, Russia finally pulled the trigger.
When Crimea petitioned to join the Russian Federation, Russia of course did accept because of their major military base there.
Good.
I hope Ukraine strikes back hard and kicks their ass.
Nobody wants to be ruled by the assholes in the Kremlin.
The people in the Donbass do. They have twice petitioned Russia to absorb them. Russia declined realizing this would have lead to war, but since Ukraine kept appealing to join NATO, and NATO didn't flatly refuse, and was arming Ukraine, Russia finally pulled the trigger.
When Crimea petitioned to join the Russian Federation, Russia of course did accept because of their major military base there.
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WookieMan
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2022 Jul 27, 7:06am
WookieMan
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2022 Jul 27, 7:06am
richwicks says
Exactly. This was a real estate transaction or should have been. Not a war. I get the give an inch, they'll take a mile perspective, but all you had to do was give/sell a small swath of land and this wouldn't even happen. Of which most people in said region are aligned with Russia anyway.
Everything can be sold. This definitely seems like military equipment is what is being sold.
The people in the Donbass do.
Exactly. This was a real estate transaction or should have been. Not a war. I get the give an inch, they'll take a mile perspective, but all you had to do was give/sell a small swath of land and this wouldn't even happen. Of which most people in said region are aligned with Russia anyway.
Everything can be sold. This definitely seems like military equipment is what is being sold.
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zzyzzx
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2022 Jul 27, 7:18am
zzyzzx
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2022 Jul 27, 7:18am
WookieMan says
And how much did Russia pay Ukraine for Crimea?
How much did Russia offer for Dombass?
Zero. They want it for free. How about every not Russia countries with Russians in it force the Russians back to Russia? It's not like Russia needs more land, they are already the largest country with vast open spaces.
Everything can be sold.
And how much did Russia pay Ukraine for Crimea?
How much did Russia offer for Dombass?
Zero. They want it for free. How about every not Russia countries with Russians in it force the Russians back to Russia? It's not like Russia needs more land, they are already the largest country with vast open spaces.
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zzyzzx
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2022 Jul 27, 7:19am
zzyzzx
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2022 Jul 27, 7:19am
WookieMan says
Do you have an example of this happening? Russians are thieves who just want to steal it.
Russians make enemies of just about everyone, then wonders why everyone hates them.
but just sell the fucking land to Russia and move on.
Do you have an example of this happening? Russians are thieves who just want to steal it.
Russians make enemies of just about everyone, then wonders why everyone hates them.
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clambo
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2022 Jul 27, 7:23am
So if the Mexicans in Arizona and New Mexico ask Mexico to take over, Mexico invades and annexes them right?
Of course after Mexico signs a treaty agreeing to not invade and respect USA sovereignty?
Of course after Mexico signs a treaty agreeing to not invade and respect USA sovereignty?
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komputodo
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2022 Jul 27, 7:40am
komputodo
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2022 Jul 27, 7:40am
WookieMan says
RE: The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you: I'm sure the pilots are ecstatic that they have a new plane to die in. The OP forgot to add that several 1000's of deaths and all the destruction is worth it if they can save their "democracy".
ohomen171 says
The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you. Slovakia is just about ready to donate 11 Mig-29s to Ukraine. US defense officials have changed their minds and are ready to give US jet fighters and ground attack aircraft to the Ukraine Air Force. They have told Ukraine officials: "Tell us what planes you want and we will work out a deal."
Is this really good news? More war? I'm not some hippy type, but just sell the fucking land to Russia and move on. This is one of the dumbest conflicts I've seen in my lifetime and I've seen quite a few as a younger user here with the ME.
RE: The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you: I'm sure the pilots are ecstatic that they have a new plane to die in. The OP forgot to add that several 1000's of deaths and all the destruction is worth it if they can save their "democracy".
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richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 8:13am
richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 8:13am
zzyzzx says
Russia didn't want the Donbass. Again, Donbass petitioned to join the Russian Federation shortly after the CIA coup of Ukraine. When Russia refused, they declared independence, this led to immediate civil war.
Self determination is part of the UN's declaration of human rights, not that the UN follows any of their stupid stated principles.
This all began with a CIA coup, and the US has exactly what they wanted, a new route to launder and spend tax payer money. Without Afghanistan, they were desperate for that. Do you think Eisenhower was talking bullshit?
original link
Even when a WWII General and president tells you PRECISELY what is going on and warned about it over 50 years ago, people refuse to believe it.
This conflict might serve NOMINAL US strategic goals, but that's ancillary. The main purpose of war for the US is now profit for the MIC. Wars are created, on the regular just as an excuse to spend money. It's out in the open. Why do you think THIS is our "military" today?
Doesn't matter what's in our military now, not to the MIC.
WookieMan says
Everything can be sold.
And how much did Russia pay Ukraine for Crimea?
How much did Russia offer for Dombass?
Zero. They want it for free.
Russia didn't want the Donbass. Again, Donbass petitioned to join the Russian Federation shortly after the CIA coup of Ukraine. When Russia refused, they declared independence, this led to immediate civil war.
Self determination is part of the UN's declaration of human rights, not that the UN follows any of their stupid stated principles.
This all began with a CIA coup, and the US has exactly what they wanted, a new route to launder and spend tax payer money. Without Afghanistan, they were desperate for that. Do you think Eisenhower was talking bullshit?
original link
Even when a WWII General and president tells you PRECISELY what is going on and warned about it over 50 years ago, people refuse to believe it.
This conflict might serve NOMINAL US strategic goals, but that's ancillary. The main purpose of war for the US is now profit for the MIC. Wars are created, on the regular just as an excuse to spend money. It's out in the open. Why do you think THIS is our "military" today?
Doesn't matter what's in our military now, not to the MIC.
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GNL
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2022 Jul 27, 8:21am
GNL
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2022 Jul 27, 8:21am
zzyzzx says
And how much did the US pay XXX for XXX?
How much did THE US offer for XXX?
Zero. They want it for free. How about every not US countries with XXX in it force the THE US back to THE US? It's not like THE US needs more land, they already CONTROL vast AREAS OF THE WORLD.
WookieMan says
Everything can be sold.
And how much did Russia pay Ukraine for Crimea?
How much did Russia offer for Dombass?
Zero. They want it for free. How about every not Russia countries with Russians in it force the Russians back to Russia? It's not like Russia needs more land, they are already the largest country with vast open spaces.
And how much did the US pay XXX for XXX?
How much did THE US offer for XXX?
Zero. They want it for free. How about every not US countries with XXX in it force the THE US back to THE US? It's not like THE US needs more land, they already CONTROL vast AREAS OF THE WORLD.
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richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 8:27am
richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 8:27am
WineHorror1 says
The Louisiana purchase was 15 million dollars, when gold was $20 an ounce (approximately, it was actually $19.9X something)
Alaska was 7.2 million.
Hawaii was stolen and was illegally forced into the Union.
Parts of California were forcibly taken from Mexico.
The Louisiana purchase really wasn't France's to sell.
And how much did the US pay XXX for XXX?
How much did THE US offer for XXX?
The Louisiana purchase was 15 million dollars, when gold was $20 an ounce (approximately, it was actually $19.9X something)
Alaska was 7.2 million.
Hawaii was stolen and was illegally forced into the Union.
Parts of California were forcibly taken from Mexico.
The Louisiana purchase really wasn't France's to sell.
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GNL
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2022 Jul 27, 8:30am
GNL
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2022 Jul 27, 8:30am
What are the 2 most used excuses for the US to bomb other countries? Why did they fuck up Libya?
"It's in our national security interests"
And
"They are an existential threat"
And
"Muh terrorism"
And now
"White supremacist/Nazism".
No other countries are allowed to have the same concerns?
People, if you want the one world government the globalist are trying to create, continue supporting everything the US does while also vilifying everyone the US tells you to vilify.
"It's in our national security interests"
And
"They are an existential threat"
And
"Muh terrorism"
And now
"White supremacist/Nazism".
No other countries are allowed to have the same concerns?
People, if you want the one world government the globalist are trying to create, continue supporting everything the US does while also vilifying everyone the US tells you to vilify.
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Bd6r
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2022 Jul 27, 8:53am
Bd6r
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2022 Jul 27, 8:53am
richwicks says
Fake News.
The people in the Donbass do. They have twice petitioned Russia to absorb them.
Fake News.
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Tenpoundbass
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2022 Jul 27, 9:19am
Tenpoundbass
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2022 Jul 27, 9:19am
ohomen171 says
Our military aircraft are made for various branches of our armed services. They are designed and built to fulfil a task, often to lay down support for one of the other vehicles. They aren't ala carte options, "Hey which ones do you want, and what color would you like it?".
Normally the military leaders on both sides would agree on the specific military goals they are trying to achieve, and will offer up planes accordingly.
For the most part they give out an aging general purpose fighter jets. But that wont do Ukraine much good, because Russia isn't running a sortie operation against Ukraine, they send in infantry and fire missles from Russia.(If you believe that Russia is responsible for every single civilian bombing casualty, which I do NOT!)
A-10 or Apache attack helicopters do seem more appropriate for what Ukraine needs, I don't see how a Hornet will help them. But I'm sure this administration will fuck those choices up to.
A wise articulate and clean black man, once told me...
"Never underestimate Biden's ability to fuck shit up!"
#ukraineairforce The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you. Slovakia is just about ready to donate 11 Mig-29s to Ukraine. US defense officials have changed their minds and are ready to give US jet fighters and ground attack aircraft to the Ukraine Air Force. They have told Ukraine officials: "Tell us what planes you want and we will work out a deal."
I'm proud that one of our readers is a Ukraine pilot. Denys asked me what plane I would recommend for the Ukraine Air Force. I did not have to think about it long and hard. I told him the A-10 Warthog. For those of you curious, here is an excellent video on this aircraft that has been in service with the U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard units for 50 years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5us5ce56YHo
The A-10 is the kind of plane that I love. It is easy to fly. It is easy to maintain. It can o...
Our military aircraft are made for various branches of our armed services. They are designed and built to fulfil a task, often to lay down support for one of the other vehicles. They aren't ala carte options, "Hey which ones do you want, and what color would you like it?".
Normally the military leaders on both sides would agree on the specific military goals they are trying to achieve, and will offer up planes accordingly.
For the most part they give out an aging general purpose fighter jets. But that wont do Ukraine much good, because Russia isn't running a sortie operation against Ukraine, they send in infantry and fire missles from Russia.(If you believe that Russia is responsible for every single civilian bombing casualty, which I do NOT!)
A-10 or Apache attack helicopters do seem more appropriate for what Ukraine needs, I don't see how a Hornet will help them. But I'm sure this administration will fuck those choices up to.
A wise articulate and clean black man, once told me...
"Never underestimate Biden's ability to fuck shit up!"
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zzyzzx
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2022 Jul 27, 10:07am
zzyzzx
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2022 Jul 27, 10:07am
The real problem here is that nobody really wants to live in Russia. Not even Russians. Because it fucking sucks. It always has, and probably always will. If you are a neighboring country, you end up with a bunch of Russians living in your country, then Vlad will want to annex you.
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GNL
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2022 Jul 27, 10:57am
GNL
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2022 Jul 27, 10:57am
richwicks says
That's my point.
WineHorror1 says
And how much did the US pay XXX for XXX?
How much did THE US offer for XXX?
The Louisiana purchase was 15 million dollars, when gold was $20 an ounce (approximately, it was actually $19.9X something)
Alaska was 7.2 million.
Hawaii was stolen and was illegally forced into the Union.
Parts of California were forcibly taken from Mexico.
The Louisiana purchase really wasn't France's to sell.
That's my point.
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richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 11:14am
richwicks
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2022 Jul 27, 11:14am
Bd6r says
Whatever. If it's on American television and reported by the US government, and especially the US intelligence agencies, THEN you know you're listening to fake news.
original link
If it's on television, it's bullshit. This is the level of infantile propaganda we have today. Rachael Maddow is the highest paid "reporter" in the United States today. She's the most popular "news" reporter in the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donbas&oldid=649659454#Separatism
Getting more difficult to cover up history. Before my generation is dead, it won't be the winners that write the history. They already don't record it.
richwicks says
The people in the Donbass do. They have twice petitioned Russia to absorb them.
Fake News.
Whatever. If it's on American television and reported by the US government, and especially the US intelligence agencies, THEN you know you're listening to fake news.
original link
If it's on television, it's bullshit. This is the level of infantile propaganda we have today. Rachael Maddow is the highest paid "reporter" in the United States today. She's the most popular "news" reporter in the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donbas&oldid=649659454#Separatism
Getting more difficult to cover up history. Before my generation is dead, it won't be the winners that write the history. They already don't record it.
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Ceffer
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2022 Jul 27, 11:35am
Ceffer
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2022 Jul 27, 11:35am
More shit for the Russians to blow up. Migs are Russian jets with vacuum tubes in their control parts (so they still work through an EMP). Now we have Russians using American weapons and Ukes using Russian weapons. What a lovely carnival of blood.
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WookieMan
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2022 Jul 27, 12:58pm
WookieMan
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2022 Jul 27, 12:58pm
zzyzzx says
Louisiana purchase comes to mind. There are others in our history where we did not kill people to get a tiny or big swath of land.
This is a classic machismo war that was totally unnecessary. Also, if you build a military you need to use it sometimes. That's really all this is. This could have been handled diplomatically before the first bullet or rocket was fired. It's a proxy war. Didn't need to happen.
Do you have an example of this happening? Russians are thieves who just want to steal it.
Louisiana purchase comes to mind. There are others in our history where we did not kill people to get a tiny or big swath of land.
This is a classic machismo war that was totally unnecessary. Also, if you build a military you need to use it sometimes. That's really all this is. This could have been handled diplomatically before the first bullet or rocket was fired. It's a proxy war. Didn't need to happen.
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I'm proud that one of our readers is a Ukraine pilot. Denys asked me what plane I would recommend for the Ukraine Air Force. I did not have to think about it long and hard. I told him the A-10 Warthog. For those of you curious, here is an excellent video on this aircraft that has been in service with the U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard units for 50 years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5us5ce56YHo
The A-10 is the kind of plane that I love. It is easy to fly. It is easy to maintain. It can operate out of rugged airfields. It is tough and can take a lot of punishment. It was designed as "a tank killer." Its only weakness is that it is an easy target for very advanced air defense systems like the SA-300, SA-400, and SA-500. This weakness can be overcome!