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What game are they playing with pelosi's taiwan trip?
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2022 Aug 1, 11:55am 12,513 views 72 comments
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So it's not a real concern then? Good on you to admit that. I do agree - NATO expansion is a red herring and fake grievance. Now, why should Ukraine "remain neutral" and what right Russia has to demand that? It's not in any treaty, in fact Russia has repeatedly asserted Ukrainian independence and sovereignty, the latter meaning that the country is free to pursue whatever alliances it deems beneficial. And why is Russia OK with Sweden and Finland not being neutral anymore? Shouldn't Sweden and Finland "remain neutral"? What's the difference (except wanting to restore the USSR and Sweden wasn't a part of that shit).
China cooperating with the distraction?
"hmmmm maybe this is the reason:
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OK, the body double allegedly landed in Taiwan without incident. It was a distraction, all a show, to fuck the primary elections. The underhanded agendas emerge? Also some kind of feint to make Pelosi look like she is a brave warrior? A pox on these depraved idiots on both sides.
Major Global sleight of hand and bullshit, AGAIN!
What do you think my position is? I've explained it repeatedly. Explain, in detail, what you think my actual position on wars that the US government brings us into, and the result of US intervention.
You constantly strawman my positions. To put an end to this, I want you to make a full strawman, and I will take that, and turn it into my ACTUAL position.
I'm tired of endless argument. There's no hypocrisy in my viewpoint that I'm aware of but if there is, I will eliminate it.
I find NOTHING but hypocrisy with you. If the US can lie to blow up Iraq and kill 100,000 to 800,000 people and this is "legal under international law" - why can't Russia do the same to Ukraine? They're just murdering people and making up a complete bullshit excuse to do it. What's wrong with that? The US does it all the fucking time. I mean, Shock and Awe, they LEVELED city blocks just to get the population so afraid, they would turn against their government.
They are doing this in Syria now.
You think there was something wrong with that? If not, why the fuck have you never spoken out against it?
Now you want a source? Where is your source for "scary NATO weapons stationed in Ukraine"? Especially the kind capable to threaten a nuclear power with the 2nd military in the world. You consistently failed to provide anything on this subject (beyond bunch of blankets provided by Obama and 160 Jav tubes provided by Trump which are common knowledge ).
Cuban military is and has always been armed by Russia. So whatever they have is Russian weapons. And they are not exactly unarmed. So there we have it: Cuba is hosting Russian weapons. And since Russia is a member of a CSTO Cuba is hosting CSTO weapons.
All boxes are ticked. Shall we invade?
Yes, you did. You support the invasion of Ukraine. So it this, and only this case, you are pro-war. Isn't it curious?
Again, another fucking stawman.
I'm stating this is Russia's STATED objective. I don't know if they're being honest or not. I know that the US always, and I mean ALWAYS, lies about its wars, but I'm not certain Russia is being dishonest. What do you think their actual objective is?
I know the US lies claiming that Russia intends to rebuild the USSR. Well, if that were true, the would have taken over S. Ossetia and Georgia years ago when Mikheil Saakashvili was president - he began an attack against S. Ossetia in much the same way Arseniy Yatseniuk did against the Donbass. The situation was quite similar. S. Ossetia asked Russia for help, and Russia went in did.
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I'm going to ignore the rest of this since you are again, strawmanning my position.
You pretend not to understand me, then expect me to defend a position I don't hold OR explain AGAIN how you made a "mistake" in interpreting what I said.
What I know, with absolute certainty, is the United States federal government is lying about everything in this conflict, again. That's all they ever do, and if they have to lie to gain my support, they don't deserve my support. It's that simple.
I don't have to understand the actual reasons of why the United States is backing Ukraine, I can speculate about it (for example, it appears that the last 20 years of wars in the Middle East and so on MOSTLY has to do with competing against Russian to provide Europe with Energy, certain this is the case with Syria, at least partially with Iraq, and quite probably with Libya) but I don't have to know. I just know that the truth of why the US is involved isn't a good enough explanation to get the dumb, stupid public, on board with it.
No I don't.
I support the end of US involvement in Ukraine.
The war is happening because US puppets are in Ukraine in control of Ukraine.
If the United States didn't overthrow Ukraine in 2014, there wouldn't be a war between Russia and Ukraine.
Since there is a war between Russia and Ukraine, and I expect Ukraine has as much of a chance of "winning" against Russia as Iraq does against the United States, they may as well give up.
I hope the US puppets are tried, convicted, and executed for being traitors to their people.
I don't think Zelenskyy gives a FUCK about how many people die, he's now a billionaire thanks to the criminal mafioso Ihor Kolomoyskyi who is ultimately under the control of the US intelligence agencies.
US intervention not only caused this conflict, but is purposely prolonging it. If Ukraine cannot win, there is no point in fighting it, because it just increases the death toll. The demands of Russia has been "stay neutral, stop bombing the Donbass region" and although Russia could have invaded ANYHOW, they wouldn't have any excuse to invade if Ukraine just did this, but they didn't, because the US told them not to.
We're sending them there now.
I don't seriously think you're this dumb. You want an argument, pick one with your wife.
But if you want to have a discussion, let's have a discussion.
What weapons has Cuba received from Russia, are they a threat to the United States, when was this done, and what's your source for this information?
I ask this, because I don't think you're honest, and in fact, I know you aren't.
Let's have a discussion if you want one, but I'm not interested in just having a fucking argument.
No, you do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=War_in_Donbas_%282014%E2%80%932022%29&oldid=610896977
That's a very old article in Wikipedia from 2014 discussing the developing situation. When a situation is developing, Wikipedia (at least WAS) free from intelligence influence.
Even our own piece of shit, fucked up, worthless press was reporting on it back then.
We built the fucking internet so you could be educated. I had NO idea how much propaganda the US government made back then, but I do now. They always lie, about everything, They NEVER tell the truth, ever. They will tell you the most LUDICROUS lies, and 99.9% of people will believe them, more than that.
The problem I have is that the only interests the US government has serves a few criminals in the US government. This conflict does NOT serve the United Stats as a nation.
Nobody was begging and crawling on their knees.
China is a strategic nation.
They can see we're TOTALLY fucked. We have a 30 trillion dollar debt now, it will be 60 trillion in 8 years. Don't fuck with an enemy when they are making a mistake, and that's AL the US does. Shit, we fucking have spies in Congress overseeing Nancy Pelosi. The Biden's are directly engaged with illegal activity in China.
Our "leaders" are just stripping the nation before it collapses.
The United States is one of the most fucking corrupt nations in the West. Do you think China or Russia want to clean that up?
Americans are in this stupid childish denial about it too. Every one of our experts is a fucking fraud that is on the take. Our financial system is filled with thieves and frauds, Dimon should be in jail. They lie us into wars, they lie us into lockdowns. Our "news" media is nothing but non stop bullshit, 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
The US, it's a joke now. We don't even have the ability to make mops on a mass scale anymore. The F-35, that's a 1.5 trillion dollar JOKE.
China EXECUTES corrupt executives in their nation. We never will, even when they arrange to cause a mass starvation in this country, which they are.
Land of the free and the brave - fuck everybody that says that. Most Americans are too fucking pussy to even acknowledge in their own mind, the reality.
Was that award for her famous "fart clouds"?
out here in potato land plenty to do. we don’t even stay indoors, outdoors is everything. haven’t bought anything. just fertilizer and seed.
I think the great scam of our Central Bank is ending, and they are desperately trying to seek a new world war to blame the collapse on, and everybody knows it.
Russia and China are just giving them more rope. I don't expect WWIII no matter what these assholes do, I expect a Soviet style collapse.
China will "save face" but allowing these mother fuckers to hang themselves. I'm not a big fan of their government, but it's not my nation. I'm certainly not a fan of MY government. Warmongering twats.
Cheap Vietnamese shit, cheap Malaysian shit, cheap Mexican shit, cheap Korean shit, cheap Indonesian shit, etc.
There is nothing special about China really.
You say that dick in Xi's throat was not Nancy's but some unwashed body double's? And it makes it better for Xi exactly how?
Tell us that in January.
... and post your heating bill. =)
Beware the cornered animal. They have already weaponized and released a virus as well as stealing the US election. They are fighting for their life.
I've already noticed a lot of "made in Vietnam" tags where I expected China.
Yep, Pulter has came out of the closet during St. Petersburg Economic Forum and said it out loud that the goal is to restore the empire like Peter the Great did. Which makes it even more funny to poke alinas and watch them regurgitate all the shit which was made irrelevant on the day the confession was made.
Putin actually always confesses to the real thing later in the game after all the red herrings outlive their usefulness. I guess it gives him pleasure to rub it in. Case in point - Crimea invasion and annexation of 2014: before it he said "there is no way, no how we plan to go for Crimea", then, when the whole "special operation" was underway he was saying that he doesn't know who the "little green man" are and then, finally, he said that these were members Russian military all along. Same with the Dumb Ass "people's uprising": it went from "miners and farmers who rebelled using tanks and MRLRs they found in abandoned mines" to "our military people performing tasks of military nature".
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