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161   Onvacation   2022 Aug 12, 7:41am  

The narrative on my favorite left wing radio channel yesterday was, "Trump could release the warrant if he wanted to. He has until tomorrow to give the ok to let the public see the warrant. What is he hiding?"
162   Ceffer   2022 Aug 12, 8:40am  

Of course, as usual, nobody has answered the question of just what exactly this new distraction is designed to hide. The gales of ridicule look like they are good to juice for upwards of four days.
163   Patrick   2022 Aug 12, 9:34am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/fbi-rubicon-donald-trump-mar-a-lago-raid/


I hesitate to make any predictions about that because I have been wrong about it so often in the past. “Surely,” I have thought, “this is it. The American people will not stand for this.”

But then they do. James Comey was OK. So was Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and Michael Sussmann. The FBI does something outrageous. There are little eructations of unhappiness. Then people go back to their lattes and put it out their minds.

Will the astonishing raid on Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Palm Beach residence, be the line in the sand, the Rubicon, the straw that broke the camel’s back? Maybe. Just possibly.

Probably not.

But maybe. The volume of the response this time has been turned up. Everywhere one looks, eyebrows are raised. Concern — make that “deep concern” — is being voiced. As is so often the case, it’s the little things that push people over the edge. The news that the G-Men, in addition to carting off boxes of documents, also rifled through Melania Trump’s personal wardrobe struck many people as especially outrageous. Are we about to see some of those agents wandering around with the former first lady’s underwear? I wouldn’t put it past them.
164   Patrick   2022 Aug 12, 10:16am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/merrick-garland-is-the-mar-a-lago-mystery-man/


Dems’ whole remaining strategy for 2024 is to make people believe Trump does not support American democracy. Propaganda/journalism/TV hearings failed to sway many minds. To succeed, it’s going to require something real, an actual court finding Trump actually guilty of an actual crime that meets the expectations set after flinging around words like “treason” and “sedition” like angry monkeys. Some goofy tax problem in a state court or empty process crime will not be enough. It is hard to imagine Trump taking with him some classified documents will be enough, despite the high-profile raid on Mar-a-Lago.
167   AmericanKulak   2022 Aug 12, 10:25am  

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
The warrant for Mar a Largo was signed on August 5 but not executed until August 8.
Sure makes it clear that what they were looking for wasn’t really serious if you could take the weekend off before acting on it.
1:24 PM · Aug 12, 2022·Twitter f
168   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2022 Aug 12, 10:33am  

In other words it was made out of retaliation to the tough questions Christopher Wray got in Congress. Now we know why he had to dip out so quickly and couldn't answer any more questions. .He had a vendetta to kick off.
169   AD   2022 Aug 12, 10:38am  

Its a big disinformation and psych ops drill as far as saying Trump had nuclear secrets.

It's to try create a rift between Trump and his supporters who are military veterans.

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170   rocketjoe79   2022 Aug 12, 11:11am  

Patrick says

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/merrick-garland-is-the-mar-a-lago-mystery-man/



Dems’ whole remaining strategy for 2024 is to make people believe Trump does not support American democracy. Propaganda/journalism/TV hearings failed to sway many minds. To succeed, it’s going to require something real, an actual court finding Trump actually guilty of an actual crime that meets the expectations set after flinging around words like “treason” and “sedition” like angry monkeys. Some goofy tax problem in a state court or empty process crime will not be enough. It is hard to imagine Trump taking with him some classified documents will be enough, despite the high-profile raid on Mar-a-Lago.



This is strictly about getting Trump Disqualified for Office (with a felony charge and conviction) so he can't run in 2024.
172   Patrick   2022 Aug 12, 1:01pm  

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-found-several-classified-documents-in-mar-a-lago-raid-report

Some of these boxes contained sensitive material that may be so secret it's unknown if investigators will ever publicly disclose what information was found.


This is exactly the expected bullshit. "We found incriminating stuff, but can't tell you what it is."
175   Patrick   2022 Aug 12, 1:16pm  




And they still haven't gone through Hunter's laptop.
178   Patrick   2022 Aug 12, 1:25pm  




Not sure that's true, but Snowden and Assange should be pardoned and given the Medal of Honor.

Dunno about Ross Ulbricht. He seems like an actual criminal.
183   Onvacation   2022 Aug 12, 3:31pm  

Ceffer says

Of course, as usual, nobody has answered the question of just what exactly this new distraction is designed to hide. The gales of ridicule look like they are good to juice for upwards of four days.

for one

July 6 — The U.S. military confirms it has pulled out of Bagram Airfield, its largest airfield in the Afghanistan, as the final withdrawal nears.

July 8 — Saying “speed is safety,” Biden moves up the timeline for full troop withdrawal to Aug. 31. Biden acknowledges the move comes as the Taliban “is at its strongest militarily since 2001.” Biden says if he went back on the agreement that Trump made, the Taliban “would have again begun to target our forces” and that “staying would have meant U.S. troops taking casualties. … Once that agreement with the Taliban had been made, staying with a bare minimum force was no longer possible.”

Biden assures Americans that a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan “is not inevitable,” and denies that U.S. intelligence assessed that the Afghan government would likely collapse.

Asked if he sees any parallels between the withdrawals from Vietnam Afghanistan, Biden responds, “None whatsoever. Zero. … The Taliban is not the south — the North Vietnamese army. They’re not — they’re not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There’s going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the — of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable.”

Biden adds that “the likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely.”

Biden also promises to help accelerate the issuance of special visas for Afghan nationals who helped the U.S. during the war.

July 24 — At a rally in Phoenix, Trump again boasts, “I started the move out of Afghanistan,” adding “I think it was impossible for him [Biden] to stop it, but it was a much different deal.”

Trump says that when he was president, in a phone conversation with the leader of the Taliban, he warned that after U.S. troops leave if “you decide to do something terrible to our country … we are going to come back and we are going to hit you harder than any country has ever been hit.” Trump says he believes the two “had a real understanding” but that after Trump left office “now they’re going wild over there.”

Aug. 6 — The Taliban takes control of its first province — the capital of Nimroz province in Afghanistan — despite the agreement it signed with the U.S.

Aug. 15 — Taliban fighters enter the Afghanistan capital Kabul; the Afghan president flees the country; U.S. evacuates diplomats from its embassy by helicopter.

Aug. 16 — In a speech to the nation, Biden says, “I do not regret my decision to end America’s warfighting in Afghanistan,” and deflected blame for the government’s swift collapse.

“The truth is: This did unfold more quickly than we had anticipated. So what’s happened? Afghanistan political leaders gave up and fled the country. The Afghan military collapsed, sometimes without trying to fight,” the president said. “If anything, the developments of the past week reinforced that ending U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan now was the right decision.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/
184   Onvacation   2022 Aug 12, 3:40pm  

I am Arizona Senator Wendy Rogers. I fought for our country in the military, and I'm still fighting for our freedoms in the State Senate.

I am appalled by the FBI's search of the Florida home of our 45th President of the United States.

Not only was the reason for the search unjust; it was unprecedented in never having been perpetrated upon any former US president (National Archives Records).

The search itself was outrageous and completely over the top. It set a horrible standard that someday will be turned around on Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for truly egregious crimes against this nation.

I am looking forward to November 2022 and 2024 when we will have landslide victories against the Marxists who hijacked our government.

We need many arrests, tribunals and tough Constitutional punishment for the treason that has continued to take place.

When that day comes to rein in our government, we must drastically reduce the DOJ, FBI and IRS.

President Trump is going to win such a resounding victory with massive coattails when he runs again, that he will be able to accomplish these necessary reductions.

This good and righteous victory is what the evil is trying to stop, but the good will prevail.

It is now clear that states must assert their 10th Amendment rights against the partisan, barbaric tyranny of Biden and his Deep State buddies.

We in Arizona MUST assert our rights, to defend ourselves and our citizens against an overreaching Federal government.

I will protect Arizonans in the State Senate, but I need your help!

I am in a fight against a Soros-funded Democrat who hates Trump and approves of the FBI raid. Help me make an example of her at the ballot box!

The 'Sweet Grandma' is definitely going to fight for you and your fights. Will you stand with me?

Thank you again. America First!

Wendy Rogers, Lt Col USAF (ret)
Arizona State Senator
Arizona's 6th Legislative District
186   Patrick   2022 Aug 13, 9:57am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/clean-house-fbi-justice-department/


Critics of the Mar-a-Lago raid argue it is only the latest example of FBI/DoJ malfeasance:

The FBI initially refused to take possession of Hunter Biden’s incriminating laptop and leaked word it was “Russian disinformation” before Joe Biden faced the voters in 2020. They knew it wasn’t
The FBI’s leaks (reinforced by former CIA officials) likely influenced social media giants’ decision to kill the New York Post’s accurate story about Hunter’s computer. We still don’t know if the FBI spoke to anyone at the social media companies
The FBI appears to have concocted the “kidnap attempt” on Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer. The DoJ lost its first two criminal cases, an extreme rarity
Attorney General Merrick Garland sicced FBI agents on parents protesting school curricula but refused to enforce clear statutes prohibiting intimidation of federal judges
The FBI violated countless rules and procedures in interviewing Hillary Clinton about her home-brew server with its classified documents. FBI director James Comey actually wrote the memo clearing Hillary before the interview
In direct violation of the FBI’s own rules and basic notions of fairness, Comey held a press conference before the 2016 election outlining Hillary Clinton’s misdeeds without bringing criminal charges. Comey reworded his statement to scratch out phrases in the original document that were also used in criminal statutes. This illicit press conference may well have cost Clinton the close election
Comey himself made the decision not to charge Hillary Clinton, a responsibility that belongs solely to the Department of Justice
The Bureau ignored multiple, credible allegations of sexual abuse against Larry Nassar, a doctor for Michigan State athletes, allowing him to continue his abuse against many more women for many more years. No agents were fired or even punished
And, of course, the FBI played a central role in perpetuating the Russia hoax, falsely linking Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign to Kremlin operatives ...

What will happen next?
When the Republicans retake the House, they will investigate the FBI and probably the DoJ using their newfound subpoena power. That will publicize the problems but nothing more. Congressional investigations are notoriously inept, and the Biden Department of Justice will refuse to act on any criminal referrals.

If the Republicans retake the White House in 2024, they will try to clean house at the FBI, and inevitably face Democrats’ accusations that they are politicizing the agency. Cleaning the Augean Stables will be nearly impossible. The president can appoint a few top officials, but big bureaucracies like the FBI and DoJ have enormous powers of self-protection — and the capacity to strike back. Just look what they’ve already gotten away with.

Two places to start fixing things
The problems are endemic and they can’t all be fixed at once. But we have to start somewhere. ...


His "solusions" are weak sauce.

The FBI must be utterly eliminated as it is an enormous threat to justice.
188   Patrick   2022 Aug 13, 3:53pm  

Booger says

Florida judge that OK'ed this is Jewish..


Trump's daughter and grandchildren are also Jewish. It's completely irrelevant.
192   just_passing_through   2022 Aug 13, 4:17pm  

Joseph Biden has the same first name. Coincidence? I think not!
194   Booger   2022 Aug 13, 4:48pm  

Hitler just found out about this..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5YkCBTCYMPY
195   richwicks   2022 Aug 13, 5:03pm  

Patrick says

Booger says


Florida judge that OK'ed this is Jewish..


Trump's daughter and grandchildren are also Jewish. It's completely irrelevant.


You know how the KKK was mostly white anglo saxon protestants but they were still a racist organization that wielded a great deal of power? That's not to say all white anglo saxon protestants were KKK. In fact the KKK had some people who weren't protestants, but they almost always were.

What do you think a Zionist is?

I've known Jewish people that oppose Zionism, but I've never seen one in government. You'd never see a democrat in government in 1930 that wasn't a member of the KKK, either. Government is about alliances, not about ethics or ideals. Cynthia McKinney was a LITTLE outspoken against Zionism. She's the ONLY person that voted against the Afghanistan war. She didn't last long.
196   Ceffer   2022 Aug 13, 5:44pm  

The Illuminati hornbooks are generic. If you ask the Catholic Church or Christian historians who is responsible, they will say the Jews and demonic Muslim sects, and elect any non-Jew to Jew status if it fits the blame plexus. If you ask the Muslims, they will blame the West and the Christian World and the Jews. If you ask the Jews, they will blame the Jesuits, Euro persecutions/pogroms, Royals and the baleful Inquisition. If you ask the Mormons, they will blame all of the above and say it is a justification for God's cataclysm that will destroy everybody but them as they emerge from their survivalist caves in the Rockies.

Masonic chapters and outposts are containers for Illuminati compartmentalization, symbology, and hierarchy

The methods and means of psychopathic subversion, mass murder, centralization of authority, monopolization of resources in an increasingly narrow group of dynastic hands, are largely generic at this point and Communism/ Nazi-ism were their last best efforts. These generic, subversive methods are the lingua franca of the intelligence agencies, and countries and groups bent on conquest. Add in a little Art of War and The Prince for spice.

An interesting point is the convergence of the higher levels of any of these 'elite' groups toward the adoption of organized religions of psychopathy i.e. various forms of devil worship and Satanism and symbolism. The Satanism is what makes them tick and what they believe is the secret sauce of their successes. Lower echelons may believe in charity and compassion, not even suspecting the bent loyalties of the higher pyramid echelon. The absolute devotion to elaborate deception, even when the truth might serve better, seems symptomatic of the sclerotic Satanist.

I think that monopoly on financial systems, whoever hold such, are the ultimate corrupter. These people become ever more detached, evil, insane in their obsessions, vapidly destructive, and absolutely contemptuous of the general population, and a lot of the dynastic types are inbred.
197   richwicks   2022 Aug 13, 5:53pm  

Patrick says

8) Bottom line: FBI better have found smoking gun evidence of crime. If not, this raid should not have been approved & will backfire into a boost for Trump and a further erosion of trust in vital governmental organizations. My Q to Director Wray and AG Garland: Was it worth it?


They'll fabricate something.

I wouldn't be surprised if they find a document entitled:

How I Plan to Hand Over Ukraine to Putin and to Become a Fascist Dictator
By: Donald J. Trump
198   Ceffer   2022 Aug 13, 10:47pm  

richwicks says

How I Plan to Hand Over Ukraine to Putin and to Become a Fascist Dictator
By: Donald J. Trump

Is this available from Amazon?

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