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Blasts detected near Nord Stream pipelines amid leak – Swedish seismologists.


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2022 Sep 27, 9:48am   35,588 views  239 comments

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The pipelines suffered at least three major leaks, due to suspected sabotage.

Blasts detected near Nord Stream pipelines amid leak – Swedish seismologists

Scientists in Denmark and Sweden registered underwater explosions near the Nord Stream pipelines on Monday, when several major leaks were reported. Sabotage is now suspected as a key reason for the damage.

“There is no doubt that these were explosions,” seismologist Bjorn Lund with Sweden’s National Seismology Centre (SNSN) told public broadcaster SVT on Tuesday.

The Danish military released aerial footage of the leaks, showing large spots and visible bubbling in the water. Nord Stream 1 suffered two leaks northeast of the Danish island of Bornholm, while Nord Stream 2 was damaged south of Dueodde, a beach located at the island’s southernmost tip, the military noted.

Earlier in the day, Moscow said it has been looking into the reasons behind the leaks, suggesting the pipelines were targeted in an act of sabotage. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that currently “no option can be ruled out” on the causes of the incident.

The Nord Stream 1 pipeline was completed in 2011. Construction work on Nord Stream 2 began in 2018, and suffered numerous delays due to political pressure and sanctions from the US. The pipeline was finished and pressurized in September 2021, but never actually got online.

Two days before the start of Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, the German government put its certification on indefinite hold, and has repeatedly rejected any suggestions, both domestic and from Moscow, to open the pipeline.

https://www.rt.com/russia/563614-explosions-detected-near-nordstream/



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186   Patrick   2022 Oct 2, 11:33am  

stereotomy says


I'm more convinced that the people running the US proxy war against Russia (Nuland and her coterie) are to the man and women descendants of Jews who fled Russia during the pogroms of the late 19th and early 20th century. They want to see Russia obliterated.

There was a post on PatNet about Nuland's backstory. It rings true. To her and her ilk, this is an apocalyptic battle/struggle against 1000 years of Russian persecution of the Ashkenazi Jews.


I just noticed that Anthony Blinken is Jewish too. I do think that the nurturing of grievances is central to Judaism, so maybe there's something to the idea that US foreign policy is partly driven by that.

At the Passover Seder there is the line "In all ages do men rise up against us." The sense of being beleaguered and needing to rely on each other is the glue which keeps Jews together. So in a sense, Judaism requires anti-semitism to survive.

It's a kind of algorithmic feedback loop.
188   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Oct 2, 11:46am  

we fucked Europe hard with that one. now they will have less energy and less options.
189   AD   2022 Oct 2, 12:01pm  

Patrick says


"In all ages do men rise up against us."


That mindset among a culture or religion produces the consequences that we are observing. I just don't want to suffer because of their psychotic clique mindset.

What is interesting is the same (religious or ethnic ?) club or clique (from Anthony Blinken to Goldman Sachs to NBC News Chuck Todd) are getting snubbed by their ideological hero the Chicoms with respect to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
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190   AD   2022 Oct 2, 12:03pm  

Patrick says


At the Passover Seder there is the line "In all ages do men rise up against us." The sense of being beleaguered and needing to rely on each other is the glue which keeps Jews together. So in a sense, Judaism requires anti-semitism to survive.


That is what I heard from Muslims especially from the Middle East. They call it a poser group or religion that is all about money and power by always posing as the victim.

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191   AD   2022 Oct 2, 12:16pm  

stereotomy says

Nuland and her coterie


Speaking of Victoria Nuland, below are two quotes many years ago from her mentor Strobe Talbott, which seem even more omnipresent today.

Talbott was clearly given prophecy especially since Putin has said recently that all of Ukraine is really part of Kremlin culture and people.

30 years after Ukraine broke away from the Soviet Unit, and its going to be hard to "convince" 20 to 45 year old's in central and western Ukraine that its in their "best interests" to align with the Kremlin.

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"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

"The Russians have provided an opening for renewed diplomacy. Since last summer, President Dmitry Medvedev has been calling for a 'new Euro-Atlantic security architecture'. So far, except for rehashing old complaints and the unacceptable claim that other former Soviet republics fall within Russia's 'sphere of privileged interests', Mr Medvedev and Mr Lavrov have been vague about what they have in mind.
192   Patrick   2022 Oct 2, 3:19pm  

ad says


That is what I heard from Muslims especially from the Middle East. They call it a poser group or religion that is all about money and power by always posing as the victim.


To be fair, it's not just posing. Jews actually do get massacred with historic regularity.

And it's not unique to Jews. The same feedback loop happens with other cultures, particularly all of the Christian minorities of the Middle East: Coptic, Armenian, Syraic, Chaldean. They tend to be richer than their neighbors and of course they refuse to convert to Islam, so this also makes them targets of massacres by Muslims.

And the Chinese in Malaysia have a similar dynamic. Small wealthy mercantile class that does not want the majority culture men to marry their daughters.

And the Indians in Uganda.

So the feedback loop is something like this:

wealth is generated by cooperation within a small tight-knit group ->
outsiders are excluded and learn to hate that group, seeing them as exploiters ->
group becomes yet more tight-knit, feeling under siege ->
group gets even richer because they cooperate better and trust each other more
193   Bd6r   2022 Oct 2, 6:11pm  

NuttBoxer says

we shouldn't be picking sides.

I think that it is quite logical that Ukraine is not a US war, so let Europeans carry the financial burden. It is them who are fucked if Putin wins. Not us here.
194   AD   2022 Oct 2, 8:06pm  

Patrick says

To be fair, it's not just posing. Jews actually do get massacred with historic regularity.


I understand but the last time was about 77 years ago. Advanced forward now and look at how much they have been integrated in the upper strata of Western society from Hollywood to the CEO of Goldman Sachs, to NBC News Chuck Todd to the Secretary of State Anthony Blinken to the White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain.

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195   AmericanKulak   2022 Oct 2, 11:43pm  

Patrick says


And the Chinese in Malaysia have a similar dynamic. Small wealthy mercantile class that does not want the majority culture men to marry their daughters.

There was a huge riot against Chinese in Indonesia as well, I had a friend in College who escaped one of the riots. They killed scores of people and looted/destroyed/burned at least 100 homes and businesses of ethnic Chinese.

Singapore's very existence is due to Malay to Chinese dislike, and the Malaysians have an official "Malay above Chinese" "affirmative action" policy. Bumi Putera I think it's called.
196   AmericanKulak   2022 Oct 2, 11:46pm  

ad says


Or make mention of Jewish people who were Bolsheviks such as with the Soviet control over regions like Ukraine.

Man in Charge at the time: Iosef Stalin Jugashvilli, a Georgia who was a former Eastern Orthodox Seminary Student and whose mother was devout.

Head of the Secret Police: Lavrenty Beria, half-Russian, half-Georgian, non-Jew.

One of the key guys running Ukraine: Krushchev. Ukraine was actually Kruschev's base on patronage; which is why he had Crimea taken out of Russia SSR and added to Ukraine SSR so he could dispense vacation dachas to his followers.

Stalin also had the Doctor's Plot/Anti-Cosmopolitan Campaign that was anti-Semitic after WW2. High ranking party officials divorced Jewish spouses, Jews were removed from positions, and many others accused of working with Western Capitalists.
197   richwicks   2022 Oct 3, 12:12am  

ad says


If you already were a high school graduate back then, recall how the media convinced enough people the economy sucked back in 1992 in order to help Bill Clinton win. Same media is now telling us "its not the economy stupid".


The economy DID suck back then. I was graduating as an electrical engineer. For our job fair at the University @ Buffalo, Anderson's Electronics (kind of like a Best Buy) was offering jobs as floor managers for us with a GPA of 3.2 and above.

George H. Bush was a disaster, and Clinton was a piece of shit, but at least he wasn't as shit as George H. Bush. They were both horrible, but Bush Sr., he's probably been the worst president in my lifetime, and I'm 51. He's an ex-CIA director. I hope he's burning in hell.

And don't get me wrong, I know how horrible Clinton was. NAFTA, bringing in exports from China from slave labor, the Serbian war, the bombing the the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant, he was a monster. He's a mass murderer. He was a step up from George Bush Sr.
198   Patrick   2022 Oct 3, 2:12pm  

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/developing-developments/


Message found in fortune cookie from Panda Take-out reminds us: “The dildo of consequence is seldom lubricated.” Please apply this ancient wisdom to “Joe Biden’s” sabotage of the Nord Stream 1 and 2 natgas pipelines. Secretary of State Antony Blinken spun the deed as a “tremendous opportunity” to reduce fuel use in Euroland, and shift its prior dependence on affordable Russian energy to ruinously-priced American liquid natural gas (LNG) — a supposed boon to US producers. Lucky us and them!

Let’s get a few technical matters straight about natgas. Gas pipelines allow for cheap gas, without costly intervening shipping procedures. Flows are continuous from producer to customer. LNG requires compression of the gas at super-cold temperatures and costly-to-build LNG tanker ships to keep that gas cold and compressed in transit. Each tanker can carry only so-much gas and the flow is not continuous. At each end of the energy-losing journey there is a costly LNG terminal to load and unload the gas. Bottom line: Euroland customers can’t afford US LNG, though for now they’ll be getting it good and hard to struggle through the first winter of a permanent depression that will feel more like the forecourt of a new dark age. Also bear in mind that American shale gas is a finite resource; that we need plenty of it ourselves; and that the earliest-developed US shale gas fields are crapping out one-by-one. ...

Let’s not forget the reason that “Joe Biden” blew up the Nord Streams: to foreclose any chance of Germany wriggling out of US sanctions against Russia. Just prior to the Nord Stream strike, protests were rising in several German cities, the common folk already chafing under the Russian gas delivery shut-down and soaring price of desperately-needed gas. If the US stood by while Germany made a separate peace with Russia, how would that affect the NATO countries’ commitment to the US-provoked conflict between Ukraine and Russia? How much cash support would Euroland continue to dish out to Mr. Zelenskyy’s sketchy money-laundering operation?

What no government official can acknowledge — even among the Euroland victim nations of this awesome stupidity — is that the US demolition of the Nord Streams was an act-of-war against our own allies. By the way, the blogger who styles himself as “Monkey Werx,” notable for tracking the world-wide military flight movements, presents a comprehensive play-by-play of just exactly how the mission was accomplished. I’ll summarize but you can read his full report (click here) for yourself.

https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/the-nord-stream-2-pipeline-sabotage

... So, the questions loom: How many more days before Germany and the rest of Euroland begin to apprehend how they have been hosed by America into an economic collapse scenario? (How many days before a team of competent professionals hunts down Klaus Schwab and his colleagues somewhere in Switzerland?) When will the Eurofolk turn on their idiot government leaders and flush them out of office? When will all (except for psychotic Poland) bail out of the USA’s Ukraine crusade? I will tell you: this will all begin pretty darn soon. And if so, that will be the end of the NATO alliance. ...
199   AD   2022 Oct 3, 2:33pm  

AmericanKulak says


Stalin also had the Doctor's Plot/Anti-Cosmopolitan Campaign that was anti-Semitic after WW2. High ranking party officials divorced Jewish spouses, Jews were removed from positions, and many others accused of working with Western Capitalists.


Jewish communists were active in Ukraine... albeit when Stalin started to gain and seize more power, Jewish communist leaders and members started to be less used by the Soviet state.. they likely were deemed no longer useful by Stalin ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poale_Zion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishka_Yaponchik

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iona_Yakir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Jewish_Labour_Bund

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ukraine#Political_activism_and_emigration
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200   EBGuy   2022 Oct 3, 2:35pm  

Shocking moment of truth on Bloomberg when Professor Jeffrey Sachs says he believes the US was behind the Nord Stream pipelines destruction. The reporters start to lose it, of course. pic.twitter.com/CteWb7utcv

— Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo) October 3, 2022
201   Patrick   2022 Oct 3, 2:35pm  

Stalin wasn't Russian either.
202   EBGuy   2022 Oct 3, 2:40pm  

blinken: Nord Stream Explosions Tremendous Opportunityfor Europe to Stop Using Russian Gas
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken responded to the reported explosions at the Nord Stream pipelines by saying that it’s a “tremendous opportunity” for European nations to “remove dependence” on Russian natural gas.
“I think first it’s important to make clear that these pipelines—that is, Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2—were not pumping gas into Europe at this time,” Blinken said in remarks over the weekend in Washington. “Nord Stream 2 never became operational, as is well known. Nord Stream 1 has been shut down for weeks because of Russia’s weaponization of energy.”
Alleged undersea blasts that damaged the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines last week have led to huge methane leaks. Nordic investigators said the blasts involved several hundred pounds of explosives.
203   AD   2022 Oct 3, 2:41pm  

AmericanKulak says

Iosef Stalin Jugashvil


Here is one Jewish Bolshevik who did Stalin's bidding and is responsible for the Holodomor (or great famine) in Ukraine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich#Responsibility_for_1932%E2%80%9333_famine

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204   AD   2022 Oct 3, 2:44pm  

EBGuy says

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken responded to the reported explosions at the Nord Stream pipelines by saying that it’s a “tremendous opportunity” for European nations to “remove dependence” on Russian natural gas.


The same Germans who were publicly laughing or smirking at Trump are secretly gnashing their teeth at Blinken

For Trump universe it was theater and of no to little consequence, but now with the Birdbrain Administration and its Secretary of State Blinken, I think its more serious and the Germans may retaliate in their own way economically, etc. against the USA

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205   Patrick   2022 Oct 3, 2:51pm  

https://summit.news/2022/10/03/former-pentagon-advisor-says-us-likely-attacked-nord-stream-pipelines-to-isolate-germany/


Former Pentagon Advisor Says US Likely Attacked Nord Stream Pipelines to Isolate Germany
“You have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this.”

A former Pentagon advisor says the most likely culprits behind the Nord Stream pipeline blasts are the United States and Britain, and that the attack was carried out to prevent Germany from bailing on the war in Ukraine.

Retired US Army colonel Douglas Macgregor made the comments during an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast.

Macgregor said a process of elimination rules out Germany, because they are dependent on Nord Stream for their energy security, while it also served no benefit for Russia to have sabotaged its own infrastructure.

“Would the Russians destroy their own pipeline? 40 percent of Russian gross national product or gross domestic product consists of foreign currency that comes into the country to purchase natural gas, oil, coal and so forth. So the Russians did not do this. The notion that they did I think is absurd,” Macgregor said.
206   AD   2022 Oct 3, 2:53pm  

Patrick says

Former Pentagon Advisor Says US Likely Attacked Nord Stream Pipelines to Isolate Germany
“You have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this.”


Birdbrain Biden and Blinken is miscalculating this if they think the Germans are not going covertly retaliate
208   socal2   2022 Oct 3, 3:07pm  

Does anyone think Russia's snap elections by gunpoint in Eastern Ukraine wasn't rigged?
211   Ceffer   2022 Oct 4, 10:40am  

When is Putin going to take out Greta? The time is ripe.
212   Eric Holder   2022 Oct 4, 10:44am  

Ceffer says


When is Putin going to take out Greta? The time is ripe.




Why would he take out his own asset?

All green cunts are on FSB/KGP payroll. Have been since the 70s. (Remember all the "no nukes in Germany" hysterionics?)
213   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 11:32am  

https://www.infowars.com/posts/professor-claims-u-s-behind-nord-stream-pipeline-sabotage-media-shills-freak-out/


Economics Professor Jeffrey Sachs brings receipts when laying out how Biden administration most likely behind natural gas pipeline destruction. ...

A professor on Bloomberg Television claimed the U.S. was responsible for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline leaks, sending the news hosts into a meltdown.

Columbia University Economics Professor Jeffrey Sachs explained on Monday that the U.S. was the most likely culprit behind the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage, pointing to promises by Joe Biden and State Department officials to end the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine.

“To make it definitive, the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline, which I would bet was a U.S. action – perhaps U.S. and Poland – this is speculation…” Sachs began before getting interrupted by “Bloomberg Surveillance” host Tom Keene.

CNBC host panics when guest speculates that the Nord Stream pipeline bombing was a "U.S. operation."

The guest is asked to back up his statement… and he does 😳 pic.twitter.com/TGHYt9aC8C

— Young Americans for Liberty (@YALiberty) October 3, 2022
“Jeff, Jeff, we gotta stop there. That’s quite a statement as well,” Keene snapped. “Why do you feel that that was a U.S. action? What evidence do you have of that?”

Unfortunately for Keene, Sachs brought receipts, pointing to “direct radar evidence” confirming a U.S. military presence around the pipelines prior to the leaks.

“Well, first of all, there’s direct radar evidence that U.S. helicopters, military helicopters that are normally placed in Gdańsk were circling over this area,” Sachs noted.

Sachs then pointed to “threats” made by Biden administration officials over the last several months vowing to end the pipeline.

“We also had the threats from the United States earlier this in year that one way or another, we are going to end Nord Stream,” Sachs said.

Sachs then highlighted remarks by Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who said Friday that the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage presented a “tremendous opportunity” to wean Europe from Russian energy dependence.

“Sorry, it’s a strange way to talk if you’re worried about piracy on international infrastructure of vital significance,” he said, as co-host Lisa Abramowicz tried to get a word in edgewise.

“I know this runs counter to our narrative that you’re not allowed to say these things in the West, but the fact of the matter is, all over the world when I talk to people, they think the U.S. did it,” he said, adding that even reporters publicly blaming Russia for the leaks privately believe the U.S. is responsible.
214   Ceffer   2022 Oct 4, 10:39pm  

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford claims that there was no destruction of the pipeline, it was all a propaganda head fake for the Rothschilds to manipulate the markets for a quick profit.

"The latest attempt by KM to start World War III was seen last week when they “blew up” the Nordstream I and II gas pipelines that supply Russian gas to Germany. This was followed immediately by the announcement of an alternative pipeline supplying gas from Norway to Poland. The problem is the entire thing was a propaganda lie designed to make money by manipulating financial markets, Russian FSB sources say.

It is a pretty sure bet that, if you investigate, you will find out that the Rothschild-owned trading companies based in Switzerland made a killing from insider trading based on the fake pipeline incident.

Also, Germany will now have to pay “transit fees” to Ukraine and Poland for gas from a pipeline that probably does not exist."

Impossible to determine what is real any more. He also claims that the intel agencies have authorized a 'Shoot To Kill' order on many of our NWO tormenters. Again, impossible to either verify or deny, usual Fulford schizophrenia with half right, maybe half wrong stuff.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=208690
215   AD   2022 Oct 4, 11:21pm  

Ceffer says

made a killing from insider trading based on the fake pipeline incident.


How ? What assets like ProShares Ultra Bloomberg Natural Gas (BOIL) ? I don't see much of a bounce with BOIL because of this.

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216   richwicks   2022 Oct 4, 11:26pm  

Ceffer says


Our buddy Benjamin Fulford claims that there was no destruction of the pipeline, it was all a propaganda head fake for the Rothschilds to manipulate the markets for a quick profit.

"The latest attempt by KM to start World War III was seen last week when they “blew up” the Nordstream I and II gas pipelines that supply Russian gas to Germany. This was followed immediately by the announcement of an alternative pipeline supplying gas from Norway to Poland. The problem is the entire thing was a propaganda lie designed to make money by manipulating financial markets, Russian FSB sources say.


Haha, if this is true, I retract everything I've said about that lying grifting fuck. We'll find out in a couple weeks, but it would mean that the observed bubbling, was entirely faked. I don't think that could be explained.

Ceffer says

Impossible to determine what is real any more. He also claims that the intel agencies have authorized a 'Shoot To Kill' order on many of our NWO tormenters. Again, impossible to either verify or deny, usual Fulford schizophrenia with half right, maybe half wrong stuff.


Easy to spin up crazy shit. All you need to do is make the suggesting that something good will happen as a result, and it's super secret. People will read hopium, but they won't engage in fear porn as much.
217   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Oct 5, 9:57am  

Eric Holder says

All green cunts are on FSB/KGP payroll. Have been since the 70s.


So you're saying we've massively infiltrated. But I'd go back further, to Red Roosevelt who somehow stayed on past his two terms, and managed implement majority of the planks in the Communist manifesto.
219   socal2   2022 Oct 6, 3:03pm  

Who here is really sympathetic to Germany these days?

We've all seen the Eurotrash Germans laughing at Trump when he warned them about this exact situation 4 years ago at the UN.

Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was on the fucking board of directors of Russian oil companies for Pete's sake! All the while Germany failed to pay their minimum NATO dues to ostensibly keep Russia and Putin from trying to re-invade their former Commie slave colonies in Europe.
220   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Oct 6, 3:27pm  

I think we all feel for the German citizen, who is being fucked over just like the Ukraine citizen, the Russian citizen, and definitely the US citizen.

Hate the government, love the people.
221   mell   2022 Oct 6, 4:16pm  

socal2 says


Who here is really sympathetic to Germany these days?

We've all seen the Eurotrash Germans laughing at Trump when he warned them about this exact situation 4 years ago at the UN.

Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was on the fucking board of directors of Russian oil companies for Pete's sake! All the while Germany failed to pay their minimum NATO dues to ostensibly keep Russia and Putin from trying to re-invade their former Commie slave colonies in Europe.

The traitorious German politicians (not the populace), like xiden or zelinsky, laughed and surely there are too many who have been voting for the German uniparty all these years. But if so many Americans already fell in love with the corrupt puppet gov in the Ukraine from listening to the US propaganda, then you surely should throw the Germans a bone, who have been having government/state sponsored news media mostly for the past 75 years. The propaganda over there is insane.
222   socal2   2022 Oct 6, 4:22pm  

mell says

The traitorious German politicians (not the populace), like xiden or zelinsky, laughed and surely there are too many who have been voting for the German uniparty all these years. But if so many Americans already fell in love with the corrupt puppet gov in the Ukraine from listening to the US propaganda, then you surely should throw the Germans a bone, who have been having government/state sponsored news media mostly for the past 75 years. The propaganda over there is insane.


I am very German. I have many German relatives still living in Germany and have visited the country several times.

Anecdotal only, but my first hand experience is that the vast majority of Germans are very Liberal and woke and hated Trump and Bush with the passion of a thousand burning suns. They were totally in love with Obama and Hillary and loved getting cheap energy from Russia while thumbing their nose at their NATO commitments.
223   Ceffer   2022 Oct 6, 4:30pm  

socal2 says

totally in love with Obama and Hillary

Pretty weird, since that could be interpreted as a death wish.
224   mell   2022 Oct 6, 4:33pm  

socal2 says


mell says


The traitorious German politicians (not the populace), like xiden or zelinsky, laughed and surely there are too many who have been voting for the German uniparty all these years. But if so many Americans already fell in love with the corrupt puppet gov in the Ukraine from listening to the US propaganda, then you surely should throw the Germans a bone, who have been having government/state sponsored news media mostly for the past 75 years. The propaganda over there is insane.


I am very German. I have many German relatives still living in Germany and have visited the country several times.

Anecdotal only, but my first hand experience is that the vast majority of Germans are very Liberal and woke and hated Trump and Bush with the passion of a thousand burning suns. They were totally in love with Obama and Hillary and loved getting cheap energy from Russia whi...


I agree with you on this but I'm saying they are victims of propaganda that is unrivaled. Most EU citizens are. Germany has mostly been ruled by career politicians supported by state sponsored media, actually started by the US since WW2. Any German rooting for Trump is cast a Nazi and the media has been smearing Trump 24/7, by design. Germans have been conditioned to support the elitist/"intellectual" yet idiot leftoid class represented by obummer, Clinton and so on (al fucking gore with his manbearpig is a fucking hero in Germany because !weather!). They have been snubbing their noses at any hint of America first policy which back then most Republicans at least partially embodied. The globalist marxist left has been fully in control in Western Europe for a while and has had full US support for almost 20 years now. It's moreso amazing that quite some resistance has formed with the dubbed right wing / nazi party (really just Germany first Republicans) AFD getting 20% of the vote. Note that the leftoid marxists also aim to kill any common sense on the non globalist left, people like Sahra Wagenkecht of the socialist/communist left are being threatened to be kicked out of their own party for promoting peace and diplomacy in Europe and going against the destruction of the globalist leftoid marxists. It's like today in the US, if you're with the majority of the media and ruling party/class, you are most likely on the wrong moral side of history. Same goes for Germany and most EU countries.
225   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Oct 6, 10:08pm  

socal2 says

Anecdotal only, but my first hand experience is that the vast majority of Germans are very Liberal and woke and hated Trump and Bush with the passion of a thousand burning suns. They were totally in love with Obama and Hillary and loved getting cheap energy from Russia while thumbing their nose at their NATO commitments.


I can second that. I know a first generation German lady, very nice, but SO against Trump, wouldn't hear anything about rigged elections, and totally buys all the Ukraine horseshit.

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