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Will Putin Use Nuclear Weapons In Ukraine?


               
2022 Oct 13, 4:51am   727 views  3 comments

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#nuclearweaponsuseinukraine The big question on many people's minds now is: "Will Vladimir Putin use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine?"
My most trusted source on Vladimir Putin Is Professor William Craft Brumfield, head of the Russian Studies Department at Tulane University. He has been a personal friend of Vladimir Putin for over 20 years. Putin likes him so much that he awarded him the Russian Medal of Friendship. This is the highest medal that Russia can bestow on a foreigner. Professor Brumfield said to me during a luncheon discussion in New Orleans in May of this year: "Putin is a sane and rational man. He will not engage in first strike use of nuclear weapons."
We have seen the news media and television stations filled with a large number of experts speculating on what Putin will do with respect to nuclear weapons and Ukraine. As far as I can tell, none of these people personally knows Putin.
This morning the FT of London came out with an interview hosted by Gideon Rachman. The subject of the interview was Alexander Gabuev. He is a Russian scholar highly regarded worldwide. He is a senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment, He knows Russia well although his true area of academic specialization is China.
He said some fascinating things in the interview. He believed that Putin could be pushed to the point of firing nuclear weapons on Ukraine. He also said something surprising. Despite the corruption and inefficiency in Russia, the massive system of shelters and by bunkers where Russian people could take shelter during a nuclear weapons exchange. He did offer some hope. He said that at the point Putin was ready to fire nuclear weapons, Putin would talk to President Biden. A summit conference would be arranged in Washington, DC to stop the use of nuclear weapons. A deal would be made to stop the war.
I found a fascinating study on what a nuclear war would do to the US, Europe, and Russia. Princeton University performed the study. Here is the study:

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How long would a nuclear war last?

Report & Images: Screencap from the Princeton University simulation. Provided by The Daily Digest.
First strike: 2,6 million casualties:
According to the Princeton simulation, Russia would attack first with approximately 300 nuclear warheads and short-range missiles, striking NATO bases and troops. NATO would respond with around 180 warheads carried by aircraft over Russian objectives. Casualties? 2.6 million in the span of three hours.

Second strike: 3.4 million casualties
With Europe in ruins, NATO launches 600 warheads from US soil and submarine-based missiles aimed at Russian nuclear forces. Russia counterattacks with missiles launched from silos, submarines, and road-mobile vehicles. This conflict continuation would last only 45 minutes and have a toll of up to 3.4 million victims.

Third step: Total annhiliation
NATO and Russia, following the scenario elaborated by Princeton University, would launch attacks on important economic and population centers to hamper the other side's recovery. Five to ten nuclear warheads would be used for each city. Thermonuclear warfare would kill 85.3 million people in 45 minutes.

Death toll: 34.1 million
The study estimates that, in total, a nuclear war would immediately affect 91.5 million people, which would cause 34.1 million deaths and 57.4 million wounded within the first four or five hours.

Repeating Hiroshima
The landscape after the conflict would be something like that: Hiroshima in 1945, when an atomic bomb dropped by the United States leveled an entire city. Over 800,000 people died and some 70,000 were wounded. Those affected by radiation would raise the death toll over the following years.

How would a nuclear war between Russia and the US play out?
Vladimir Putin has reminded Europe during the Ukrainian crisis that Russia is still a nuclear superpower.
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/newsworld/how-would-a-nuclear-war-between-russia-and-the-us-play-out/ss-AAU1NGT?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ff8d231b838f4586858aa209181a97ac#image=8

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2   clambo   2022 Oct 13, 5:19am  

From my past experience of dealings with loudmouth bullies, Putin talking about it means it is unlikely.
If someone's really interested in a fight, he starts fighting, not talking.
Just like the nut in North Korea, he's sabre rattling to scare people.
Putin is hated by Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, Ukraine, and now Russians themselves.
The "very popular Putin" myth is bullshit; people are voting with their feet trying to escape being sent into the kill zone called Ukraine.
There is obviously a core of Putin lovers, but overall the Russians are now alarmed that they are going to be sent away from their homes to fight in a "special operation" for no clear reason.
The records are paper, not electronic, so guys are firebombing offices with lists of names of people to be drafted.
Protesting can lead to jail for 10 years; opposing Putin at higher levels is a death sentence. 14 Russian bigshots are mysteriously deadksi since the invasion.
What is fascinating is Putin was trusting his inept generals to achieve a military goal which they're vastly unqualified for.
Western generals have noticed that Russian forces fight today like it's WW1, not 2022. There is no coordination of air, naval, ground; largely it's artillery and everything else is fucked up.
Russia has no air superiority over Ukraine; this means they can not achieve dominance in the field of battle.
Russia invaded a country with too few soldiers; their numbers were actually similar to Ukaine's, not a sufficient force to dominate.
Having been to Russia myself {although briefly}, I could see they're backward in their thinking.
Looking around the grand buildings and subway I wondered "Who built this? Surely not the people milling around here today."
3   WookieMan   2022 Oct 13, 6:46am  

The US has had their fair share of embarrassing conflicts, though we did generally dominate. And we're talking across the globe moving troops and equipment. Russia cannot even overtake its neighbor with a land border. They literally can just go down the street and grab more tanks and artillery back home.

We'd destroy Canada or Mexico in hours and without the use of nukes. I don't know, I think the world is laughing at Russia right now. Europe won't freeze. There's way too much hyperbole around the situation.

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