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I Have Some Bad News About the Economy


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2022 Oct 15, 5:36am   23,148 views  429 comments

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Accounts are widely out of balance

How bad, you might be asking yourself, will the economy get? We’re about to find out.




The orange line is US wealth. The blue line is US GDP. The gap is the amount of wealth American households and non-profits must surrender. You see, these two lines must move in lockstep. They do over time. When they get out of sync, something will put them back into sync.

The gap is debt.

Accounts must be settled. It’s called “a reckoning.” And the reckoning is here knocking on the door.

To put this gap into historical perspective, here’s an extended view of the same data with Dr. Hunt’s markups.




From 1951 to about 1997—the year the Monica Lewinsky story broke and Howe and Strauss published The Fourth Turning—the two lines moved in lockstep. Then Alan Greenspan decided to tinker, to grow wealth without growing GDP and without kicking off inflation. ...

What that gap represents is one of two things:

Money stolen from other people (other economies).

Money stolen from future generations of Americans.

How We Borrow from the Future
A few years ago, in the 1990s, we heard a lot of stories parents going to jail for identify theft perpetrated against their own children. About 1990, the government required babies to have a Social Security Number before they left the hospital. (I remember because it happened between our second and third children.)

Some shiftless parents soon realized they could apply for credit using their kids’ SSNs. They could default, and the creditor could do nothing. You can’t collect from a six-week-old infant.

This, of course, constituted credit fraud, so the parents who did this (and there were many) went to jail. (Not sure what happened to their kids who were left with no parents and lousy FICO score, but that’s not the point.)

The point is, all of us have been doing what those parents do only legally. The government allows us to run up our kids’ and grand kids’ debt as long as we do it with the government’s approved identity-theft programs.

So we did.

If you look at that chart, about 1/3 of our household and non-profit wealth is stolen from other generations or other countries. And we have to pay it back. Now. Or soon. ...

How We Borrow from the World
Some months ago, I wrote a series of posts about the US dollar (USD) as the world’s reserve currency and the petrodollar. (Here and here.) To summarize, almost all international debt is settled with USD regardless of the two local currencies involved. Britain settles its debts with Costa Rica in USD, etc. This includes the oil markets. Saudi Arabia, in turn, buys US treasuries (national debt) as a store of value for its copious oil profits. This allows the US run up massive debt knowing there’s always a market for our bonds.

Until there’s not.

Have you notice that Saudi Arbia is drifting out of the US orbit?

I wrote it about in those earlier posts, but the most certain sign of the Kingdom’s pending divorce with from Uncle Sam happened this week. Saudi Arabia disclosed that Joe Biden tried to strong-arm the Saudis into delaying OPEC+ oil production cuts until after the November elections. In diplomatic worlds, this was a slap in the face insult to the US and, particularly, to the Biden regime.

Rumors say Biden threatened to cut military sales to the Saudis if the OPEC+ cuts were announced before the elections. Not only did OPEC+ announce the cuts on its timetable, the Kingdom told the world about Biden’s threat (without disclosing the exact terms or names). Among “partners,” such public humiliation is a sign of pending breakup.

In return, the State Department and Joe Biden announced they would reevaluate the US’s strategic arrangements with Saudi Arabia after the election. That should be interesting.

What it means is that the US might not have as eager a buyer for debt as we’ve grown accustomed to. And that means the price of US treasuries will decline. Less demand means lower prices. When the price of bond goes down, the interest goes up. ...

I’m not saying the Saudis are about to stop taking our checks—I’m saying the for the first time since the Nixon administration, they’re acting like they might. Which means the are going to demand a bigger discount—the difference between the face value of the bond and sale price. That discount is the interest, and the bigger the discount, the less cash we have to spend tomorrow.

That’s one way to close that gap. You reduce the amount of cash you get in return for a future promise to pay. The amount you owe stays the same, but the amount you get now gets smaller.

How Our Kids Get Their Money Back
Remember the two ways we built that gap between wealth and GDP? That’s the first way. The holder of US treasuries want to cash their bonds, and they don’t want to buy new ones.

The gap begins to shrink, and that shrinking is mostly in household wealth.

The second way is intergenerational theft. So how do our kids and grandkids force their accounts settled?

Have you heard about the labor participation rate? Have you heard about the labor shortage?

An odd thing about the jobs numbers in recent months. While the number of “new jobs,” also known as “new hires,” has been strong, the number of people working has been going down, down, down. Why is that? ...

The kids aren’t taking our post-dated checks, either. They’re simply not participating in the US economy—at least, not in the official US economy. They siphoning of that excess household wealth NOW, in the present. They are not working in ways that grows the blue line (GDP). They’re shrinking the gap by lowering the orange line (wealth).

Wonder where inflation is coming from? We’re spending the excess household wealth without increasing the products and services available to buy with it. Inflation is how future generations close that gap. They spend your excess wealth without producing. And it’s happening right before our eyes. ...

In truth, we will only lose our ill-gotten gains.

While, we didn’t personally rob from the kids and foreigners, we were participants in a rigged game—a game that’s getting unrigged in a hurry. We enjoyed the spoils of the petrodollar and zero interest rates.

This account-settling process is called a reckoning, which sound harsh because it is.

https://www.epsilontheory.com/hollow-men-hollow-markets-hollow-world-2/

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417   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 5, 7:58am  

Well, the quote says nobody gives it to YOU. 👹
418   stereotomy   2025 Jun 5, 8:17am  

RWSGFY says

stereotomy says


The boomers fucked Gen-X by passing us over to hand the reins of power to their crotch fruits. I'll never forget that.



(N)o one gives it to you. You have to take it.
-- Frank Costello, The Departed

We'll take it when the time is right. And we won't tell the boomers or their millennial crotch fruits.
419   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 5, 8:27am  

stereotomy says

RWSGFY says


stereotomy says



The boomers fucked Gen-X by passing us over to hand the reins of power to their crotch fruits. I'll never forget that.




(N)o one gives it to you. You have to take it.
-- Frank Costello, The Departed


We'll take it when the time is right. And we won't tell the boomers or their millennial crotch fruits.


What's wrong with now?
420   AD   2025 Jun 5, 11:41am  

more automation and productivity gains


421   AD   2025 Jun 12, 12:21am  

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https://moneywise.com/life/food/47-percent-florida-families-dont-make-enough-money-to-cover-basics

that is why I see Florida housing like rentals going down some or staying flat while household income increases by at least 2% a year

and I see food and gasoline prices going down or staying flat in the Florida panhandle

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422   SunnyvaleCA   2025 Jun 12, 8:59am  

MolotovCocktail says

WookieMan says


Illegals are a non-factor. Small used car dealers will sell to anyone with a pulse. They don't care about legal status because they can repo the car the minute you miss a 25% interest payment and still walk out ahead. That's the game.


Not if the car is south of the border.

These cars are likely parked in places where parts will be stripped overnight, resulting in the car losing a lot of value and being abandoned. It's hard to register a car that has no catalytic converter or wheels.
423   AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper   2025 Jun 12, 9:11am  

"Robots are coming to take your job, so work for less and be happy!" - Big Business 1973-Today
424   AD   2025 Jun 14, 11:11am  

Food plants shutting down or downsizing operations in Democrat shitholes states

Johnsonville Shuts Down Momence, Illinois, Sausage Plant. Significant amount of production capacity from the shuttered, aging facility, will move to Wisconsin plants, where the company will create about 100 new jobs in total.

Blue Diamond Growers, a grower cooperative that represents nearly 3,000 almond growers in California, said it will wind down and close its midtown Sacramento plant.
426   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 24, 10:00pm  

AD says

Hawaii tourism industry is in recession

https://www.sfgate.com/hawaii/article/hawaii-travel-visitors-summer-decline-20383620.php


Well, they were screaming "how dare you come and swim in the ocean where Lahaina peeps were drowning fleeing the Oprah fire, how disrespectful of you", so mainlanders obliged and cut down on said swimming.
427   WookieMan   2025 Jun 25, 4:21am  

AD says

Hawaii tourism industry is in recession

Never had an urge to visit Hawaii. Will probably be the only state I don't visit. Alaska will be state 49 when I get a chance to get over there. It's mainly Californians that go out to Hawaii and there are a lot of them. Someone from New York could take a 2-3 hour flight to the Caribbean.

I could be in Puerto Rico in 3-1/2 hours for free. Time in the air means you need 2 weeks and jet lag recovery to get to Hawaii east of the Mississippi. Between flights, dining, rental car, airport parking or limo and hotel that's an easy $10k for a couple. The downturn might be more of an indication of CA's economy if you think about it.

I've also heard native Hawaiians are ass holes. I obviously haven't witnessed it, so who knows if that rumor is true. I'd take this over Hawaii though: https://www.jademountain.com/ St. Lucia. Half the flight time from where I'm at. No need to go to Hawaii and the Lesser Antilles are all like this in some way or another and you can boat or puddle jump on a plan island to island. Basically more choices.
428   AD   2025 Jul 2, 11:14pm  

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Microsoft laying off 4% of workforce: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/layoffs-doge-tariffs-cbs-news-explains/

Job market is not doing good: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/article-14868341/job-report-worst-employment-decline-years-markets-negative.html

Biden recession has been brewing for a while, just like the Bill Clinton recession in 2001 (after the stock market crash in 2000)

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429   WookieMan   2025 Jul 3, 9:29am  

AD says


Job market is not doing good:

I don't do economic predictions. From what I see, I'm not seeing a legit recession.

Someone will give me shit, but I look at roughly 3 things I can see in my area. Lumber, Trains and Jets at the local airport. Lumber I know they have plans to expand their lot. Freight trains are running every 20 minutes through town. $20-50M jets are at both small airports near me.

Housing crash. Trains stopped rolling through. Maybe 4 in a day. 0 jets at the airports. The lumber place shut down and closed.

I don't listen to the radio in the car. I observe. Other things like noticing gas stations with a car at every pump. We're a small town, but our restaurants are packed for every meal of the day they're open. Business are asking kids as young as 14 to work.

I'm in a lower cost of living area, so maybe life is different for others. We have cheap gas at the pumps, cheap household natural gas, cheap electric, etc. Property taxes are the biggie here. Otherwise activity economically from what I see is big right now. Honestly it was under Biden too even though he was the walking dead.

I go by what I see basically. Media needs views. Doom and gloom gets them advertising dollars. Positive news doesn't.

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