gold & silver prices
2022 Oct 16, 12:14pm 9,123 views 128 comments
by Hircus follow (1)
Why are gold & silver prices trending down this past half year? My simplistic understanding makes me think their value should rise during times of inflation and uncertainty. Maybe they spiked at the begginning of the year due to the war, and fears have allayed since then?
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2025 Nov 28, 2:09pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2025 Nov 28, 2:09pm
Onvacation says
Invest it in your sailboat? Wait for it to crash and replace with silver eagles? HODL?
If I took the cash (+/- $10K) what would I do with it?
Invest it in your sailboat? Wait for it to crash and replace with silver eagles? HODL?
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Onvacation
2025 Nov 28, 2:22pm
Onvacation
2025 Nov 28, 2:22pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
Sailboats aren't investments.
If I had invested all of the money I put into sailing over the last 4 decades I would be a decamillionaire.
Invest it in your sailboat?
Sailboats aren't investments.
If I had invested all of the money I put into sailing over the last 4 decades I would be a decamillionaire.
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AD
2025 Nov 28, 4:17pm
AD
2025 Nov 28, 4:17pm
Onvacation says
Unless they help you save money like you live aboard it as a primary residence, or you save money using it for a vacation versus staying at an expensive resort.
Or you get your 6-pack captains license and make money using it as a charter boat.
Sailboats aren't investments.
Unless they help you save money like you live aboard it as a primary residence, or you save money using it for a vacation versus staying at an expensive resort.
Or you get your 6-pack captains license and make money using it as a charter boat.
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AD
2025 Dec 9, 3:25pm
AD
2025 Dec 9, 3:25pm
Onvacation says
I wonder who is buying up silver, and if it is the younger generation who have non traditional ways of investing. Central banks in Russia and Saudi Arabia have been buying a lot of silver this year.
Silver prices have surged in 2025 mainly because of tight supply, strong investor demand, and expectations of U.S. interest rate cuts. The metal has doubled in value this year.
Key Drivers Behind Silver’s Rise in 2025
• Structural Supply Deficit
• The silver market is in its fifth consecutive year of deficit, with a shortfall of about 95 million ounces in 2025.
• Mine production has been declining for a decade, especially in Central and South America, due to closures and resource depletion.
• Stockpiles at the Shanghai Futures Exchange fell to their lowest since 2015, intensifying scarcity.
• Investor Demand & Safe-Haven Appeal
• Economic uncertainty, trade tensions, and inflation concerns have driven investors toward silver as a hedge against currency devaluation.
• Exchange-traded funds (ETFs) are expected to hit record holdings next year, amplifying demand.
• A “silver squeeze” in October highlighted the lack of available physical metal, pushing prices sharply higher.
• Federal Reserve Policy Expectations
• Anticipation of rate cuts by the Fed has boosted demand for precious metals, since lower rates reduce the opportunity cost of holding non-yielding assets like silver.
• Investors are betting on a more dovish Fed stance, which supports silver alongside gold.
• Industrial Demand
• Silver is critical for solar panels, electric vehicles, semiconductors, and AI components.
• China’s surge in solar installations has further tightened supply.
• Even with slight declines in some industrial sectors, the green energy transition keeps silver demand elevated.
Silver broke $60 an ounce today.
I wonder who is buying up silver, and if it is the younger generation who have non traditional ways of investing. Central banks in Russia and Saudi Arabia have been buying a lot of silver this year.
Silver prices have surged in 2025 mainly because of tight supply, strong investor demand, and expectations of U.S. interest rate cuts. The metal has doubled in value this year.
Key Drivers Behind Silver’s Rise in 2025
• Structural Supply Deficit
• The silver market is in its fifth consecutive year of deficit, with a shortfall of about 95 million ounces in 2025.
• Mine production has been declining for a decade, especially in Central and South America, due to closures and resource depletion.
• Stockpiles at the Shanghai Futures Exchange fell to their lowest since 2015, intensifying scarcity.
• Investor Demand & Safe-Haven Appeal
• Economic uncertainty, trade tensions, and inflation concerns have driven investors toward silver as a hedge against currency devaluation.
• Exchange-traded funds (ETFs) are expected to hit record holdings next year, amplifying demand.
• A “silver squeeze” in October highlighted the lack of available physical metal, pushing prices sharply higher.
• Federal Reserve Policy Expectations
• Anticipation of rate cuts by the Fed has boosted demand for precious metals, since lower rates reduce the opportunity cost of holding non-yielding assets like silver.
• Investors are betting on a more dovish Fed stance, which supports silver alongside gold.
• Industrial Demand
• Silver is critical for solar panels, electric vehicles, semiconductors, and AI components.
• China’s surge in solar installations has further tightened supply.
• Even with slight declines in some industrial sectors, the green energy transition keeps silver demand elevated.
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Onvacation
2025 Dec 9, 5:29pm
Onvacation
2025 Dec 9, 5:29pm
AD says
I think industrial demand is the key driver of the recent silver price spike.
Traditionally silver and gold were used for money, jewelry, or was just hoarded because it is valuable and represented all of the labor it took to mine and refine it. Precious metals have been melted and reformed for millennia. For the most part they were not lost just changed forms.
Gold is like that. it gets melted and formed into new jewelry, coins, and bars. Even the tiny amounts (cumulatively not tiny) used in electronics are worth recovering because of gold's high value. Gold accumulates.
Silver gets used. It is the most reflective and conductive of the metals. it doesn't corrode and has antimicrobial properties. It has countless industrial uses in addition to it's "Money" value. The cost of recycling it often far exceeds it's market value. Silver gets used up.
There is plenty of silver and gold in the world if you want to invest the capitol and labor to get it.
• Industrial Demand
I think industrial demand is the key driver of the recent silver price spike.
Traditionally silver and gold were used for money, jewelry, or was just hoarded because it is valuable and represented all of the labor it took to mine and refine it. Precious metals have been melted and reformed for millennia. For the most part they were not lost just changed forms.
Gold is like that. it gets melted and formed into new jewelry, coins, and bars. Even the tiny amounts (cumulatively not tiny) used in electronics are worth recovering because of gold's high value. Gold accumulates.
Silver gets used. It is the most reflective and conductive of the metals. it doesn't corrode and has antimicrobial properties. It has countless industrial uses in addition to it's "Money" value. The cost of recycling it often far exceeds it's market value. Silver gets used up.
There is plenty of silver and gold in the world if you want to invest the capitol and labor to get it.
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HeadSet
2025 Dec 9, 6:27pm
HeadSet
2025 Dec 9, 6:27pm
Onvacation says
One of the biggest uses of silver was film photography. The introduction of digital cameras did affect silver prices for a while.
Silver gets used.
One of the biggest uses of silver was film photography. The introduction of digital cameras did affect silver prices for a while.
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Patrick
2025 Dec 9, 9:17pm
Patrick
2025 Dec 9, 9:17pm
The only certainty is that the dollar will go to zero because the Federal Reserve exists.
This means that silver will go to infinity in dollar terms. But silver will still be worth about the same it always was worth. An ounce of silver will buy a meal in a decent restaurant.
It's an excellent store of value. Doesn't really go up or down. That's why we should use it for money once again.
This means that silver will go to infinity in dollar terms. But silver will still be worth about the same it always was worth. An ounce of silver will buy a meal in a decent restaurant.
It's an excellent store of value. Doesn't really go up or down. That's why we should use it for money once again.
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Onvacation
2025 Dec 11, 5:14am
Onvacation
2025 Dec 11, 5:14am
HeadSet says
He was curling it like a dumbbell. Putin's a beast.
Silver went over $62 an ounce. Another all time high price
A gold bar that size would be way to heavy to hold so casually.
He was curling it like a dumbbell. Putin's a beast.
Silver went over $62 an ounce. Another all time high price
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