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Why does any country need a central bank?


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2022 Oct 16, 10:06pm   10,605 views  55 comments

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I don't see the need for a central bank if a country simply uses silver and gold by weight as currency.

There are a few small countries without central banks:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-without-central-banks

Andorra
Isle of Man
Kiribati
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Monaco
Nauru
Palau
Panama
Tuvalu

Panama is the largest of those and simply uses the US dollar. So why couldn't it just use silver instead, and price gold in terms of silver? All countries would of course accept payment in silver or gold, so there's no problem of convertibility.

Eliminating central banks would eliminate almost all inflation, and prevent central bank corruption, such as tipping off friends to upcoming interest rate moves.

The above article is also interesting in that it says that the Rothschilds were essentially the unappointed but de facto central bank of many countries in the 1800's:


The Rothschild banking empire: The predecessors (but not secret controllers) of central banks

In the 1760s, a Jewish banker from Frankfurt, Germany named Mayer Amschel Rothschild founded what would eventually become a banking dynasty. From humble beginnings in the Jewish slums of Frankfurt, Rothschild would eventually establish banks in Frankfurt, Germany; London, England; Paris, France; Vienna, Austria; and Naples, Italy, with each bank headed by one of Rothschild's five sons. The family became known as pioneers and trendsetters in the realm of international finance, and were instrumental in aiding England and its allies during the Napoleonic wars of 1803-1815. At one point in the 1800s, the Rothschild family possessed the largest private fortune in the history of the modern world. For example, between 1895 and 1907, they loaned more than $450,000,000 USD (more than $13 trillion USD by 2022 standards) to various European governments.

Given their immense wealth and power, it's unsurprising that the Rothschild family was the subject of many conspiracy theories. One such claim maintained that the family secretly controlled the world's wealth and financial institutions, including the central banks of various countries. No evidence exists to support this claim, although significant evidence exists that it is a myth rooted in and fueled by anti-Semitism.

In reality, central banks are essentially a government function. As such, they would not be subject to control from a private family—even one as influential as the Rothschilds. In the 18th and 19th centuries, however, many countries had not yet established central banks, so the Rothschild banks fulfilled many of the functions that a central bank now carries out. Today, the Rothschild family is involved in financial services, real estate, nonprofit organizations, winemaking, and other fields.

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45   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 6, 3:46pm  

cisTits says

No. I am on the camp of ppl who actually read the Constitution.

I don't know what trip you're on.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C5-1/ALDE_00001066/

[The Congress shall have Power . . . To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; . . .]


Where's the section about paper? Coin always, always means metal, nothing else. In fact the word money itself has historically always referred to metal, nothing else. Fiat currency has always been issued by central banks, never by governments directly. So in advocating that paper money is legal you have circumvented the 10th.
46   Patrick   2023 Mar 6, 4:00pm  

Until fairly recently, all US dollars were in theory redeemably for silver metal that was in theory actually being held in the treasury:


47   Patrick   2023 Mar 6, 4:34pm  

cisTits says

To coin Money


Nuttboxer has a point in that it says "to coin money".

As in, coins.
48   Patrick   2023 Mar 6, 5:16pm  

I think coin means coin.
49   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 7, 9:15am  

I looked up the definition of coin, apparently you didn't. And again, if you use context, the states had all the power at this time, and federal government had almost none. Your interpretation is based on the shift that happened post Civil War, after the Constitution was written. And again, the word money has been recognized as gold and silver coin since the beginning of economics, over 2,000 years.

We have a tendency to think things only exist in the context we live in, but history tells a very different story about money than the propaganda pushed today.

Your source is congress.gov. Governments don't take stances that limit or require them to give back power, ever. Try reading an unbiased source, like Griffin. A bit more than the page or so in your link, but worth the time.

If you advocate fiat is legal, you support everything corrupt about our country. Because again, the purpose of a central bank is to deceive and destroy. And they're very good at it.
50   Eric Holder   2023 Mar 7, 12:29pm  

NuttBoxer says


Eric Holder says


Kinda anwers your question, no? Either a country has its own central bank, or some Rotchschild from somewhere else will act as a de-facto one.


And if you say no to both, they assassinate you, and get someone in who says yes.



Nah, you can't say no to both. If your country has no central bank some foreign entity will act as a de-facto one, as Rotchschild example above shows. If you're Panama and your currency is USD - boom, the Fed is your central bank.
51   richwicks   2023 Mar 7, 2:10pm  

cisTits says

No, it doesn't. Never did. Didn't then. Didn't when the Brit Parliament issued paper bills before US was established and SCOTUS etc.


This is why there was a revolutionary war against the British. It wasn't over a tea tax, it was because the British central bank was printing currency and using that to purchase anything they wanted from the colonies, without actually producing anything useful in exchange for it.

That's the REAL reason for the US revolutionary war.

We're all taught total bullshit about history, and we keep making the same "mistakes" of history, because we're not taught history.
53   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 11, 5:11pm  

Eric Holder says

Nah, you can't say no to both.


See Libya, Tanzania, and our good man Andrew above. Now the powder was wet for Andrew, but they did try.
54   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 11, 5:23pm  

cisTits says

Look up the definition of misdemeanor, too.

Not the same as what is meant by High Crimes and Misdemeanors in the Constitution, either.

You're entitled to your own bullshit. You are not entitled to passing it off as factual reality.

Yet that is what you are trying to do.


There's no grey area when it comes to what constitutes coin. The fact that you have bought that lie shows why central banking economies last as long as they do. They're very good at getting people to believe their propaganda.

Just because it seems like everyone says the shots will save you, didn't mean they would. Just because a lot of people believe economics only works with paper, and routinely gut the 10th, doesn't make you right.

You are just as cucked as the Russian haters, the shot takers, and the mask wearers. It's just that the guy reaming your wife every night told you the right lie first. That's how they get all of us. And when you pout and rage about being bamboozled, remember, you're just like the all black wearing, pink haired Portland/Seattle freaks. Intolerant, and wrong.

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