« First « Previous Comments 4 - 43 of 121 Next » Last » Search these comments
Anyone on here have something better than word salad for an answer ?
Chatting with https://beta.character.ai/ makes me wonder whether it possibly has some kind of consciousness.
God has a vantage point that is not bound by our concept of the dimension of time which is why the question of what happened before creation is absurd.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth per Genesis 1.1
The questions I have posed to numerous clergy of all denominations are as follows:
What was God doing before he started creating ?
It’s just code and stats.
Patrick says
Chatting with https://beta.character.ai/ makes me wonder whether it possibly has some kind of consciousness.
It’s just code and stats.
And doesn’t every program or simulation absolutely require a creator?
What was God doing before he started creating ?
Where was God, if there was nothing before he started creating ?
According to the physicists etc. there was nothing so how did God come out of nothing ?
God exists outside of time. There, I said it, now you figure it out.
rocketjoe79 says
God exists outside of time. There, I said it, now you figure it out.
All fine and good. What is God ? As humans we have attached a label to make this entity human like but is that the case.
No - it is not absurd. Thinking the universe, humans etc. were created in 6 days as we know them (24 hours) is absurd.
Less absurd than believing a cell membrane/wall, mitochondria, and coded instructions to construct the mitochondria and build the wall plus self-replicate the coded instructions, came about in an act of neo-spontaneous generation.
Nobody has ANY idea how life started, but we have made self replicating spheres. That's the Miller-Urey experiment.
Wookie. I don’t see how you can say there is zero evidence God exists. Jesus was a historical figure. There’s more evidence of his existence then most historical figures we accept as having existed.
There was no King David, no civilization records his existence,
Ever wonder why the Germans went through such great pains to get rid of the bodies by using scarce resources to cremate the bodies to dust, but kept all the shoes you see in every holocaust museum?
Oh by the way, how do the physicists explain the emergence of all matter in the universe from nothing?
Tel Dan Steele - argument from Enemy Arameans, who bragged about defeating Hebrews of the "House of David"
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-artifacts/the-tel-dan-inscription-the-first-historical-evidence-of-the-king-david-bible-story/
For use by the next bunch of slaves. Nazi mythology had Jews as filthy untermenschen, the Slavs also.
The ovens have already been discussed: By 1944 the Nazis had little manpower or resources or infrastructure to keep digging mass graves in an ever-growing radius around camps, so incinerating them reduced the amount of mass to bury.
It's a 9th century inscription. King David was before Christ.
I hate arguing this, because whoever I'm talking to has to go through a lot of cognitive dissonance which I KNOW is extremely uncomfortable. The Germans would not be more worried about covering up war crimes (of which both sides were guilty), they were concerned about winning the war. Idi Amin just dumped bodies into the rivers. He didn't give a shit about being caught, and the Nazi regime didn't care about that either. Either they won, or they lost. If they lost, they knew they were fucked, regardless, and the Allies were in the same exact position.
He is not mentioned at all in Roman history at the time and Jewish history
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Christ. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.
richwicks says
It's a 9th century inscription. King David was before Christ.
Yes, it's a 9th Century BC inscription. David is estimated to have lived around the 11-10th Century BC
The Germans were interested in reducing the need for thousands of people, dump trucks, etc. to create mass graves when they needed every last piece of machinery and man for the Front. The first big CC camp, Buchenwald, that at first had mostly political enemies of the 3rd Reich used the Weimar City Crematorium, but at one point 90% of the bodies being burned there came from the camp, the city managers were aggravated, so the SS began ordering crematoria. This allowed them to spare having to drag 100s, later 1000s of ~150lb bodies onto trucks for burial elsewhere at the point the Nazis were having to use old women to man (pardon the pun) Flak Guns.
« First « Previous Comments 4 - 43 of 121 Next » Last » Search these comments
The questions I have posed to numerous clergy of all denominations are as follows:
What was God doing before he started creating ?
Where was God, if there was nothing before he started creating ?
According to the physicists etc. there was nothing so how did God come out of nothing ?
https://www.cnet.com/science/stephen-hawking-tells-degrasse-tyson-what-preceded-big-bang/#:~:text=%22Nothing%20was%20around%20before%20the%20Big%2C%20Big%20Bang%2C%22,universe%20is%20best%20described%20by%20a%20Euclidean%20approach.
https://www.livescience.com/what-came-before-big-bang.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/10/05/what-existed-before-the-big-bang/?sh=67c5e507671e
So as of today I have yet to get anything but a variety of wonderful word salads for an answer from clergy of any church or denomination.
Anyone on here have something better than word salad for an answer ?