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Which oils to avoid?


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2023 Jan 21, 7:13pm   29,754 views  225 comments

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I'm increasingly frustrated at the rapeseed oil (euphemistically called "Canola" oil by Canadian producers) and palm kernel oil that seems to be in almost all food. Pretty much everything at Trader Joe's seems to have one or the other. I was even at a Russian shop in Palo Alto today (Samovar, fun place) and found the poppyseed cake my grandmother used to make - except it was with margarine instead of butter, ugh.

Which of them are worth avoiding entirely?

Here are the fats and oils I think are bad:

- margarine (which is just canola and other crap oils hardened to make them stick in your arteries better)
- canola oil
- cottonseed oil (especially bad)
- palm kernel oil

I'm undecided about these:

- soybean oil
- sunflower seed oil
- avocado oil
- coconut oil
- peanut oil

I'm sure these are pretty good for you:

- olive oil
- butter
- lard (yes, I think lard is OK to eat)


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179   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 May 9, 7:48am  

The_Deplorable says

We now have a cinnamon recall...

The latest: "Lead-tainted cinnamon has been recalled. Here's what you should know..." See https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lead-tainted-cinnamon-recalled-heres-222944869.html and
https://apnews.com/article/cinnamon-fda-lead-contaminated-dollar-tree-d1c59edb00826b212fae7dcb6f1cd98a


You get what you pay for. Those brands are all cheap shit, some even sold at dollar stores...
180   HeadSet   2024 May 9, 11:27am  

NuttBoxer says

Lead-tainted cinnamon

When something is sold by weight, what better what to enhance the price than adding lead?
184   Patrick   2024 Jul 18, 6:13pm  

https://www.aussie17.com/p/warning-you-may-have-contaminated


Last week, a scandal broke out in China that has everyone in China talking. Imagine your cooking oil being transported in the same truck that carries kerosene, and the worst part? Those trucks aren't being cleaned in between. You would think that something like this would happen in isolation, but it hasn't.

The whole thing started when Beijing News, a local newspaper, published an investigation revealing this shocking practice in the transportation industry. According to the report, several tanker trucks were transporting edible cooking oil right after unloading coal oil, with no cleaning process in between. This is apparently an "open secret" in the industry. But why would anyone do this? The answer is simple: cost-cutting. Companies save money by not cleaning the trucks.

Furthermore, this isn’t some small, isolated company involved in this scandal. We’re talking about SinoGrain here, one of China’s biggest, if not the biggest, state-owned enterprises. They primarily export agricultural products all over the world.

So what are our government regulators doing? Well, according to ABC News Australia, the “Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry will seek assurances from China that cooking oils exported to Australia are safe for consumption.”

So is that it? Around one week has passed since the scandal broke out and they have acknowledged that some of the cooking oils imported to Australia are from one of the companies implicated, but there will be no further checks? That’s like knowing that the mRNA vaccine is contaminated with DNA and we are just waiting for Pfizer to tell us that it is safe and effective.

Here's the kicker. As one of the largest suppliers of cooking oils in China, it's inevitable that they are supplying cooking oil for a lot of China-based food products too, like packaged snacks, instant noodles, and ready-made meals. Are these contaminated too?
185   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 18, 6:51pm  

The solution for pollution
is dilution, lol.

PS. Google "gutter oil". Try not to puke.
193   HeadSet   2024 Aug 5, 4:58pm  

Patrick says





Whale oil not on the list? Cool!
194   Patrick   2024 Aug 5, 5:01pm  

Whale oil is probably quite good for you.
195   Blue   2024 Aug 5, 5:25pm  

Mustard Oil is being used in Asia including India for cooking but banned in US. They are available in Asian stores under 'non edible' ;)
We use once a while, it should be healthy and food tastes great.
196   AmericanKulak   2024 Aug 5, 5:48pm  

Generally, if you can't squeeze it out of what it comes from, throw it out.
197   HeadSet   2024 Aug 5, 6:50pm  

AmericanKulak says

Generally, if you can't squeeze it out of what it comes from, throw it out.

Except baby oil, of course.
200   Patrick   2024 Sep 23, 1:47pm  

From a reader:


Canola Oil Sucks! (2024)
Roger Mason

Canola oil is now everywhere! You've been told that canola oil is healthy and good for you, right? You've surely seen articles that tell you how good canola oil is, and what a fine vegetable oil it is for cooking, baking, and salad dressings. When you go into health food stores, you see many products that proudly list canola oil on the label. Now you see canola oil in everything that uses vegetable oil. So, you certainly know this is a right choice when it comes to cooking oils.

Wrong! Canola oil sucks! It is a GMO aberration. It is promoted because it is CHEAP, really cheap to produce. Like cottonseed oil, or hydrogenated oils, this was never meant for human (or animal) consumption. Did you ever ask yourself what a "canola" plant is? Or where you find "canola" seeds? Ain't no such thing. This word comes from the contraction of "Canadian oil", and is purely a promotional, made-up name. It actually comes from the seeds of the rapeseed (Latin for rapa or turnip) plant. Canada is the prime producer of rapeseed, and always has been. It was used industrially for a long time. Canola is not even fit for animal feed because of the high toxic erucic acid level. Erucic acid (aka docosenoic acid) is a very toxic plant compound that comprises a-bout 50% of regular rapeseed and mustard oil. This plant was severely genetically engineered and modified over a long period of time to reduce the erucic acid to less than 2%. To be called "canola oil" it must contain less than 2% erucic acid. That's 2% too much. You’re still eating toxic erucic acid! This was never meant by nature for people or animals, and is purely a commercial production for profit. Like cottonseed oil (which is also unfit for humans), the whole motive here is profit. It is very cheap to grow. There is even a Canadian canola oil organization to promote the use of it. It's all about profit and nothing less.

GMO foods do not have to be labeled. They should not even be allowed to grow! GMO foods should be outlawed in every country on earth. Some countries have already done that. These genetically modified frankenfoods are toxic, and should not even be fed to animals. The top three GMO foods are canola, soy, and corn. Soon we’ll have GMO wheat. Then GMO seafood. Then GMO meat! There is every reason to avoid canola oil in any form. Read the article GMO Foods are Everywhere.

Why has the natural food industry embraced and promoted canola oil so heartily? Because most of the people in the natural food industry are a bunch of whores who will do, or say, anything to separate you from your money. Most all of them know nothing about natural health, and do not eat natural foods themselves. It is purely a business to them. They eat at fast food joints on their way to the bank while slurping down soft drinks. Don't buy canola oil any more. Don't buy pro-ducts containing canola oil. Read the labels before you buy, to see if the product has canola oil in it. Go to your favorite search engine and type in "dangers of canola oil". You’ll see several factual exposes of the dangers of canola oil, and why you should not consume it. The new trick now is to list several oils on the label, and not specify which is in the product. "Contains corn,
safflower, or canola oil" would be typical. That means it really contains canola oil.

If canola oil sucks, what should you use? First of all, do not eat any hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils ever. Read your labels, stay out of fast food joints, and stop buying products with hydrogenated oils…they are THE worst of all. Margarine is worse than butter. Repeat that to yourself: MARGARINE IS WORSE THAN BUTTER. There are a few brands of non-hydrogenated margarines such as Smart Balance (aka Earth Balance) you can buy instead as a transition, or for occasional use.

Corn oil is a good choice, since it comes from grain. GMO corn products do not have to be labeled though. Safflower oil is a good oil for general use, as is sunflower oil. Olive oil is good, but extra virgin is pricey, and has a very distinct taste. Olive oil, in excess, is just as harmful as any other vegetable oil. Flax oil is a supplement, not a cooking oil. The less oil and fat of any kind you eat, the better off you are. Soy oil does not taste good, unless it is so highly refined as to be nutritionless. Peanut oil comes from one of the top ten allergenic foods, and should be avoided. Yes, peanuts are one of the top ten allergenic foods known, and many people have unknown allergies to peanuts. Sesame oil is expensive, and toasted sesame oil is a flavoring. Walnut, avocado, almond, pumpkin seed, and other gourmet oils are very expensive, and are meant for specialty uses, such as salad dressings. Palm and coconut oil are saturated, and can only be used occasionally. Coconut oil is certainly not a health food, despite the ridiculous ads you see touting it's non-existent benefits. Avoid anything that says "vegetable oil", or "vegetable oil blend", as these could be anything! Non-specific "blends" are a mix of some cheap food grade industrial oils like cottonseed. That pretty much leaves corn, safflower, sunflower and olive.

Take butter out of your diet. Stop buying butter, as it is pure saturated fat. Butter does nothing but clog your arteries, and cause strokes, heart attacks and early death. Hydrogenated margarine is even worse than butter. 

A diet of whole grains and vegetables gives you all the fats you need. You only need about 6% fat calories, yet Americans eat an amazing 42% fat calories, most of which are saturated animal fats. We eat eight times the fat we need, and the wrong kind of fats. There are no "good oils" or "good fats". The less fats and oils you eat the better. Learn to cook and flavor your food without fat by reading cookbooks on low fat cooking, especially the various Asian styles. Asians in gen-eral- Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese- are masters at delicious low fat cooking. The ideal is 10% fat calories from vegetables, and 20% fat calories is the maximum for good health. Any-thing over 20% fat calories is just too much. You’ll come to enjoy cooking with very little oils.
201   WookieMan   2024 Sep 23, 3:58pm  

Not for cooking. Avoid tea tree oil. Holy balls. That shit smells a 1/4 mile away. Shook some chicks hand and I fucking reeked like it for 2 days even after showering. That shit is potent.
202   HeadSet   2024 Sep 23, 7:34pm  

WookieMan says

Shook some chicks hand and I fucking reeked like it for 2 days even after showering.

Be glad it was not that "happy ending" masseuse.
209   Patrick   2024 Oct 27, 6:17pm  

https://xnumber11x.substack.com/p/how-to-make-linoleum-inside-your


I asked Google how to make linoleum, one of the ingredients was:

oxidized linseed oil, BTW linseed oil is flaxseed oil.

So heating seed oils that are high in Linoleic Acid can create plastic and is essential in making Linoleum floors. This is to clarify the importance of avoiding processed cooking oils in your diet. Remember to read the ingredients of your boxed processed foods, they will use these types of oils because they help with shelf life.
210   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2024 Oct 27, 8:31pm  

I saw a utube vid title (and thumbnail) about Costco olive oil turning to plastic. I haven't watch it.
211   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2024 Oct 27, 8:32pm  

Ahhhh, it was Cosco not Costco...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_tCL5-4c0

Sneaky fuckers.

I still haven't watched it.
213   komputodo   2024 Oct 28, 8:47am  

With the high prices of beef, 1lb of beef tallow will probably cost $8
214   komputodo   2024 Oct 28, 8:49am  

SoTex says

I saw a utube vid title (and thumbnail) about Costco olive oil turning to plastic. I haven't watch it.

How can that be? All that stuff is inspected by the FDA to insure it is real and of the highest quality.
215   komputodo   2024 Oct 28, 8:52am  

Patrick says

Remember to read the ingredients of your boxed processed foods, they will use these types of oils because they help with shelf life.

because the labels on the boxes are always true and can be trusted. umm, better yet, don't buy food in boxes.
216   Patrick   2024 Oct 28, 10:00am  

Yes, I've had the thought myself that the real ingredients are often different, and that there should be some private service or institution that tests food on behalf of consumers. But how to fund that?

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