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Which oils to avoid?


               
2023 Jan 21, 7:13pm   50,343 views  349 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

I'm increasingly frustrated at the rapeseed oil (euphemistically called "Canola" oil by Canadian producers) and palm kernel oil that seems to be in almost all food. Pretty much everything at Trader Joe's seems to have one or the other. I was even at a Russian shop in Palo Alto today (Samovar, fun place) and found the poppyseed cake my grandmother used to make - except it was with margarine instead of butter, ugh.

Which of them are worth avoiding entirely?

Here are the fats and oils I think are bad:

- margarine (which is just canola and other crap oils hardened to make them stick in your arteries better)
- canola oil
- cottonseed oil (especially bad)
- palm kernel oil

I'm undecided about these:

- soybean oil
- sunflower seed oil
- avocado oil
- coconut oil
- peanut oil

I'm sure these are pretty good for you:

- olive oil
- butter
- lard (yes, I think lard is OK to eat)


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1   REpro   @   2023 Jan 21, 7:17pm  

Transmission fluid...

I stick to olive oil 95%.
2   Ceffer   @   2023 Jan 21, 7:40pm  

Well, I have commented that I shifted my diet about six months ago to the paleo type, as much as possible, to 90 percent oils and proteins, and 10 percent carbs (hard to enforce because they put so much sugar in everything processed). No more canola (or margarine), only olive oil, no refined wheat, and of course, no cookies, candies, cakes, pies, etc. etc, only unsweetened yogurt. Any sugar is from fruits and vegetables. Avoid all pricessed foods, maybe a bit of cracked wheat bread, sourdough, small corn tortilla, dirty rice or wheat pasta at dinner.

Along with melatonin a couple of times a week and 10K units of Vit. D per day, I have lost about 3 pounds a month. I don't diet at all in the sense of depriving myself of portions or amounts. My raw caloric intake is not that low. However, my appetite for food does seem to have gone an a more even keel, I just eat and stop after a modest portion, don't just keep eating.

I also started growing denser hair, and hair in places where it had been lost. My conclusion is the diet paranoids are correct in at least some things, because some food or food combinations that I gave up inhibited hormones and caused fat accumulation. I don't have a differential on which items are responsible, i am just glad I found out at least a partial path through the 'food fuck' that is leveled at the populace.

My conclusion has been there is definitely fuckaceousness going on with the food supplies. It makes sense, because how would a psychopath attack with passive non resistance except in food, water and air. Death Vaxes are just a less messy covert form of bullets.
3   Ceffer   @   2023 Jan 21, 7:46pm  

My friend who does study diet stuff says Canola is bad, and seed oils mostly bad. The three oils that are supposed to be best are olive, avocado, and coconut, with olive being the least expensive.
4   komputodo   @   2023 Jan 21, 7:52pm  

REpro says


Transmission fluid...

I stick to olive oil 95%.

The Olive Oil Scam: If 80% Is Fake, Why Do You Keep Buying It?
“Much of the extra virgin Italian olive oil flooding the world’s market shelves is neither Italian, nor virgin,” the New York Times warns.
So unless you bought it directly from a producer or a certified distributor, the olive oil in your kitchen marked “Italian extra virgin” is very probably a fake. Either it's low quality falsely marked as virgin or extra-virgin - and not even from Italy - or it's been mixed with other oils of dubious provenance. At worst, it's not olive oil at all but a vegetable oil disguised with coloring and aroma.

Yet, you bought it despite the fact that its low price should have tipped you off.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2016/02/10/the-olive-oil-scam-if-80-is-fake-why-do-you-keep-buying-it/?sh=9d9f3dc639d7
5   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2023 Jan 21, 8:22pm  

I saw a post - didn't save - that a brand marketed as using Peanut Oil had "Cottonseed and/or Peanut Oil" on the ingredient list.

Seed Oils exploded 90% in the 1990s.

I'm so old I remember when they insisted Margarine was healthier than Butter.

People were thinner when the top oils/fats were butter and lard.
6   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2023 Jan 21, 8:29pm  

komputodo says


So unless you bought it directly from a producer or a certified distributor, the olive oil in your kitchen marked “Italian extra virgin” is very probably a fake. Either it's low quality falsely marked as virgin or extra-virgin - and not even from Italy - or it's been mixed with other oils of dubious provenance. At worst, it's not olive oil at all but a vegetable oil disguised with coloring and aroma.

The solution is to MAGA.

https://www.15olives.com/
Purchase at:
https://coast-2-coast-distributors.mybigcommerce.com/

California, Florida, Georgia.

More olive farms coming. As US-based Olive Oil, they are required to be 100% pure. It's the European shit that's adulterated because EU rules created by Italy and Spain allow them to blend oils, including from North Africa, and both those countries are infamous for adulterated olive oil.

Be sure it's single source and not a "Blend".

Also, don't buy EU Butter. There's special secret treatment for certain countries that makes their higher-cost-of-operation butter cheaper after being shipped to the US from the EU, something like the way Electronics were more expensive in Japan than in the US for many decades.
7   Dholliday126   @   2023 Jan 21, 8:48pm  

From what I understand, never cook with oils, cook with fats (butter, lard, bacon grease).

Learn about MUFA vs. PUFA oils. The only good oil is olive (extra virgin) from Italy, but don't cook with it just put it in salads. Beware, most olive oils contain a large amount of canola.

I've done the Gundry eating diet. He's a little weird, but I think he's on to something. Basically bail on everything derived from seeds and sugar.

https://creativeinmykitchen.com/the-plant-paradox-shopping-list-printable/
8   komputodo   @   2023 Jan 21, 8:50pm  

c

AmericanKulak says


People were thinner when the top oils/fats were butter and lard.

People are like chickens
9   richwicks   @   2023 Jan 21, 9:38pm  

I'd recommend you pick up some ghee.

It's clarified butter. Basically, if you take butter, heat it up, on the bottom you end up with water, and at the top you end up with some other stuff (not sure what it is..) and the center of it is just pure milk fat.

It's about the same price as butter, and a little goes a long way. I keep mine in the fridge and have to scrape it out - it's like wax. You CAN just store this in a cupboard. but I have an OCD condition (I guess) that anything I open goes into the fridge - barring things like spices.
10   richwicks   @   2023 Jan 21, 9:40pm  

AmericanKulak says

I'm so old I remember when they insisted Margarine was healthier than Butter.

#MeToo
11   richwicks   @   2023 Jan 21, 9:42pm  

REpro says

Transmission fluid...

I stick to olive oil 95%.

You're joking I know, but you can seriously cook food in engine oil (clean engine oil) and not die or even get sick!

I'm not recommending you do this, I'm just letting you know, because I found that interesting.

I'd also caution you about doing this, because who knows what additives were placed into the oil, but petroleum is edible. Isn't that amazing?
12   Patrick   @   2023 Jan 21, 10:38pm  

richwicks says

petroleum is edible


Where did you hear this?
13   Patrick   @   2023 Jan 21, 10:57pm  

AmericanKulak says

As US-based Olive Oil, they are required to be 100% pure.


I no longer have any faith that the FDA enforces any rule, certainly not any rule which actually benefits the public.

The FDA is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Pfizer-mafia cartel and acts solely to maximize profits for its owners by recommending or even mandating that you use their products.
14   richwicks   @   2023 Jan 21, 11:05pm  

Patrick says


richwicks says


petroleum is edible


Where did you hear this?



I saw somebody on youtube deep frying chicken with it.

Don't do it though. Petroleum is edible, but don't do it.

They also didn't find the chicken to be entirely pleasant either. It was edible, but I'd stick to more common fats and oils.
15   RayAmerica   @   2023 Jan 22, 7:26am  

Patrick says


The FDA is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Pfizer-mafia cartel and acts solely to maximize profits for its owners by recommending or even mandating that you use their products.

The FDA is controlled by the corporate interests in both the food and drug industries. It's the FDA that approves all the carcinogenic
chemicals in our foods, along with excessive amounts of fat, salt and sugar, all of which contributes greatly to cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc.

If the FDA 'approves' something, you can bet your bottom dollar that their approval is based upon 'studies' that were paid for by the very industries that they are supposed to be regulating.

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