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Little Chernobyl Happening in East Palestine, Ohio Right Now


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2023 Feb 13, 8:25am   53,444 views  314 comments

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Spoke with my sister who lives in western Michigan yesterday, told her to be careful. This is completely fucked:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ohios-apocalyptic-chemical-disaster-rages



Toxic train wreck.

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237   RayAmerica   2023 Feb 28, 3:41pm  

EPA Administrator Admits He Wouldn’t Allow His Own Kid Anywhere Near East Palestine Streams Over “Accident”

“Would you allow your kids anywhere close to these streams right now,” Sortor asked.

“I would not,” Regan, replied. “I’m a father of a nine-year-old. I think we have to all agree that we wish this accident didn’t occur. But the accident occurred and as a result, some of our creeks and our streams have pollution in them.”
https://thelibertydaily.com/epa-administrator-admits-he-wouldnt-allow-his-own-kid-anywhere-near-east-palestine-streams-over-accident/
238   RayAmerica   2023 Feb 28, 3:43pm  

Nothing at all to be concerned about ... and don't forget to drink the water, it's perfectly safe.

45,000 Animal Deaths in East Palestine, Says Ohio Dept. of Natural Resources:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/benbartee/2023/02/28/45000-animal-deaths-in-east-palestine-says-ohio-dept-of-natural-resources-n1674396
239   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 1, 12:29pm  

It just has to be another coincidence ...

First East Palestine, then Bedford, Ohio (just outside of Cleveland) and now this?

ANOTHER Disaster in Northeast Ohio as Several Explosion Hit Cleveland Warehouse — 50 Firefighters Respond
https://thelibertydaily.com/another-disaster-in-northeast-ohio-as-several-explosion-hit-cleveland-warehouse-50-firefighters-respond/
240   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 2, 9:59am  

Maybe they'll feel better if they drink a big glass of East Palestine water ... which the EPA claims is 'perfectly safe to drink?'

Workers Cleaning Up Toxic Ohio Train Derailment Are Getting Sick, Rail Union Leader Warns

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rail-union-leader-warns-workers-cleaning-ohio-derailment-getting-sick
241   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 3, 9:07am  

Isn't it comforting to know that we have a Government that tells us when the air is safe to breathe and the water safe to drink?

Scientific report shows that East Palestine air has “higher than normal” concentrations of NINE toxic chemicals

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-03-02-east-palestine-air-high-concentrations-toxic-chemicals.html
242   Patrick   2023 Mar 3, 2:10pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/the-transportation-minister-in-greece-just-resigned-in-disgrace-after-a-major-train-wreck-what-a-novel-idea


The transportation minister of Greece just resigned in disgrace after a major train wreck ... what a novel idea

Rescuers delved Wednesday through flattened, burned-out carriages for survivors and bodies after a passenger train and a freight train crashed head-on in central Greece overnight, killing at least 36 people and injuring scores.

Transport Minister Kostas Karamanlis resigned Wednesday, saying he felt it was his "duty" to step down "as a basic indication of respect for the memory of the people who died so unfairly."

What a novel idea. Showing humility and resigning after a major disaster under your watch.

Almost like you have dignity and don't want to make excuses. ...

But in a country where no one got in trouble for the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal and everyone just wants to blame others for their problems, it's not a surprise that Mayor Pete takes no responsibility for the cascade of transportation disasters over the last two years that's continuing to this day.
243   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 4, 3:16pm  

Gas Tankers Keep Crashing and Blowing Up — Latest Hits Maryland Neighborhood With Multiple Homes Now Burning
https://thelibertydaily.com/gas-tankers-keep-crashing-and-blowing-up-latest-hits-maryland-neighborhood-with-multiple-homes-now-burning/
244   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 4, 3:17pm  

What in the World Is Going on in Ohio? FOURTH Massive Industrial Fire Hits State Since East Palestine Derailment

https://thelibertydaily.com/what-in-the-world-is-going-on-in-ohio-fourth-massive-industrial-fire-hits-state-since-east-palestine-derailment/
245   Onvacation   2023 Mar 4, 4:23pm  

Patrick says

it's not a surprise that Mayor Pete takes no responsibility for the cascade of transportation disasters over the last two years that's continuing to this day.

What happened two years ago? TRUMP! it's his fault. During his four years in office he undid what it took Biden, and the other career politicians, many decades to create.
246   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 4, 4:24pm  

Watched Ryan Cristian the other day. That guy goes deep on stuff, if you wanted to know anything about spike protein shots, he's your guy. Now he's getting into Ohio...

Apparently EPA is finally going to test for Dioxin, a month AFTER creating the largest amount in world history. People in East Palestine are being diagnosed as having been poisoned when they come into the doctor for breathing problems, rashes, etc.

Where are the I Stand with Ohio signs and slogans? Where is the mountain of cash for these people who can't afford to relocate? Where are the environmental protestors? The always-maskers? All those who invoked their right over our health decisions?

If you are, or were a part of any of these groups, this-is-you-wake-up-call. They don't care about Ukraine, they only care about money laundering. They don't care about the environment, they only care about control and enslaving you. They don't care about anyone's health, THEY WANT YOU DEAD.

Wake the fuck up, before they kill or enslave us all. You are being played.
247   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 4, 8:29pm  

ANOTHER Train Has Derailed in Ohio — Hazmat Crews on Scene
https://thelibertydaily.com/another-train-has-derailed-in-ohio-hazmat-en-route/
248   richwicks   2023 Mar 9, 1:00am  

Here's 3 questions NOBODY has asked, and nobody is answering:

1) Who produced the vinyl chloride?
2) Who was buying the vinyl chloride?
3) What was the vinyl chloride going to be used for?

I bring this up, because there's been some suspicion this was being shipped to make chemical weapons, and if you think the US doesn't make chemical weapons, you're incorrect in that. Everybody still does. As a weapon it can be covertly delivered and deployed, and it's difficult to determine when it was brought to the target area, and who brought it there.

The hypothesis is that it was being used to make phosgene gas.
249   PeopleUnited   2023 Mar 9, 5:35am  

Ok glowie. Now just making stuff up to cause anti government sentiment,

The most important question is why are toxic chemicals transported in containers that leak if derailed. Toxic chemicals need to be transported in derailment proof containers (containers that are crashproof).

There also needs to be Special hazmat trained Teams upon the train and/route to contain any risk, not burning it but containing it.

This isn’t that hard, this massive spill was preventable and containable if we don’t live in clown world.
250   RWSGFY   2023 Mar 9, 9:22am  

NuttBoxer says

Watched Ryan Cristian the other day. That guy goes deep on stuff, if you wanted to know anything about spike protein shots, he's your guy. Now he's getting into Ohio...

Apparently EPA is finally going to test for Dioxin, a month AFTER creating the largest amount in world history. People in East Palestine are being diagnosed as having been poisoned when they come into the doctor for breathing problems, rashes, etc.

Where are the I Stand with Ohio signs and slogans? Where is the mountain of cash for these people who can't afford to relocate? Where are the environmental protestors? The always-maskers? All those who invoked their right over our health decisions?

If you are, or were a part of any of these groups, this-is-you-wake-up-call. They don't care about Ukraine, they only care about money laundering.


They don't have to care about Ukraine - all they need to do is to stick to the obligations the US took upon itself in 1994 in exchange for the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Suggesting that a country like the USA should suddenly renege on its international obligations because of some derailment in some hamlet is frankly idiotic. These things are not connected in any way, shape or form. And no, you can't "launder" surplus humvees and 80s-era rockets - their accounting cost is not real money and you can't convert 1994 M1123 into it's supposed replacement cost of $264,000. Nor can old military toys help the folks near derailment site in Ohio (unless the proposal is to deploy M1113s as "tiny houses").

The histeria around the Ohio derailment is getting old. Yes, it's a disaster, but it's a small, local disaster and even if you believe "they are trying to kill us all", doing it with train derailments one village at a time will take them literally thousands of years.

And it's nowhere near Chernobyl by the territory and number of people affected. Here, I said it.
251   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Mar 9, 10:21am  

cute rainbow water, inclusive so nice. love is love bigots!
252   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 9, 12:52pm  

RWSGFY says

The histeria around the Ohio derailment is getting old. Yes, it's a disaster, but it's a small, local disaster and even if you believe "they are trying to kill us all", doing it with train derailments one village at a time will take them literally thousands of years.

And it's nowhere near Chernobyl by the territory and number of people affected. Here, I said it.


Sounds like you haven't looked into this at all. And that you aren't getting the point of why they claim environment matters, but not in this case.

RWSGFY says

all they need to do is to stick to the obligations the US took upon itself in 1994 in exchange for the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world.


How is backing out of that going to impact Americans more than the people getting poisoned in Ohio right now?
253   richwicks   2023 Mar 9, 7:24pm  

RWSGFY says


Suggesting that a country like the USA should suddenly renege on its international obligations


HAHA, as if the US doesn't REGULARLY renege on its international obligations all the time!!!

That's standard operating procedure. It violates treaties all the time, it attacks sovereign nations all the time, it overthrows nations all the time.


original link

Listen closely at 0:29 "Iraq too". The US can't complain about other nations doing what the US is doing. We can't change Russia easily, but we have SOME CHANCE of changing the United States, but the first step is recognizing the problem. Tried of the hypocrisy.

If the United States wants to appeal to "rules", the first thing it needs to do is follow them. If they won't follow the "rules", there are no rules, and right now, there are no rules.

The US just blew up the Nordstream pipelines. That's an act of war not just against Russia, but against Germany and Europe as well - and this was done without congressional approval, a complete violation of our Constitution. Russia, Germany, and Europe should send in assassins to kill the people responsible, they are ENTIRELY justified in doing this.
255   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 15, 10:15am  

SVB goes under. And just like that everyone forgot about the biggest environmental disaster in American history.
257   richwicks   2023 Mar 15, 12:24pm  

NuttBoxer says

SVB goes under. And just like that everyone forgot about the biggest environmental disaster in American history.

Hey, remember the collapse of FTX and Sam Bankman Fried?
258   WookieMan   2023 Mar 16, 6:31am  

richwicks says

NuttBoxer says


SVB goes under. And just like that everyone forgot about the biggest environmental disaster in American history.

Hey, remember the collapse of FTX and Sam Bankman Fried?

Now Russia is going after US drones.... Though I wouldn't doubt that one in all honesty. The 500ml of vodka before takeoff probably doesn't help Russian pilots.
259   GNL   2023 Mar 16, 8:19am  

WookieMan says

richwicks says


NuttBoxer says



SVB goes under. And just like that everyone forgot about the biggest environmental disaster in American history.

Hey, remember the collapse of FTX and Sam Bankman Fried?


Now Russia is going after US drones.... Though I wouldn't doubt that one in all honesty. The 500ml of vodka before takeoff probably doesn't help Russian pilots.

What do you have against Russia?
260   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 16, 8:37am  

More specifically Russian vodka...
261   WookieMan   2023 Mar 16, 4:04pm  

NuttBoxer says

More specifically Russian vodka...

I don't drink hard sprits of any kind, I just know Russians and Ukrainians and they're drunks. Not really a debate or conversation. No different than smelling copious amounts of marijuana in the Caribbean.

Russia is fucking up massive amounts of resources that could make life better for everyone on the planet. They're not intelligent enough. Being a KGB thug isn't all that hard. Extracting resources and getting the best ROI on them is absolutely not a thing Russia excels at. Smarter people could do much more with what they have.

Is the average Russian a bad person, probably not. Are they idiots, yes. I really have nothing against Russia besides them being idiots and wasting natural resources that could help people. There's zero reason if Russia is a super power that they couldn't be controlling the vast majority of Ukraine. They're idiots. And yes, the US has its fair share of dumb ass moments.
262   richwicks   2023 Mar 16, 4:19pm  

GNL says

WookieMan says


richwicks says



NuttBoxer says




SVB goes under. And just like that everyone forgot about the biggest environmental disaster in American history.

Hey, remember the collapse of FTX and Sam Bankman Fried?



Now Russia is going after US drones.... Though I wouldn't doubt that one in all honesty. The 500ml of vodka before takeoff probably doesn't help Russian pilots.


What do you have against Russia?


TV told him to hate it, and he obeys. He believes he comes to a conclusion and doesn't realize he's just an NPC doing what he's programmed to do. If you just accept that people can be controlled, you'll see who is controlled. This is why people get angry when you question "their" thinking, they don't have thinking, they have programming. If you push them on how they came up with "their" viewpoints, it short circuits their programming, and they become emotional and volatile.
263   richwicks   2023 Mar 16, 4:20pm  

WookieMan says

Russia is fucking up massive amounts of resources that could make life better for everyone on the planet.


Why do you think Russia has any obligation to "everyone on the planet"?
264   WookieMan   2023 Mar 16, 6:41pm  

richwicks says


Why do you think Russia has any obligation to "everyone on the planet"?

They don't even have an obligation to their own people. They should be a high level first world country. They're not. That's clearly visible currently. We bought half the US for pennies. Russia could have negotiated with Ukraine. Both sides are too retarded, so they keep going with a war that's been ongoing, but just not a prominent one until the last year.

They could have simply annexed the land via a cash deal and agreement. Ukrainians love their money as we know. Now both countries are destroying demographics for a generation. They'll be in a hell hole state for the foreseeable future. They can barely run their own oil and gas rigs without foreign assistance. If they can't do that, then yes, that effects the rest of the planet with completely viable resources sitting in the ground. Not every country has that. I didn't know this was difficult to understand. Most/many counties have to import energy. Russia has a lot and doesn't know what it's doing.
265   richwicks   2023 Mar 16, 8:31pm  

WookieMan says


They don't even have an obligation to their own people.


Right, just like our government. How's Palestine Ohio doing? Our government bailed out criminals on Wall Street in 2007, they're about to do it again. We've been locked down for 2 years over BS. Russia's government might be shit, but I don't live under it.

WookieMan says


They should be a high level first world country. They're not.


The US is not at this point, and it's being driven lower. That's what you should be worried about unless you're in Russia, then you should worry about Russia. Russia is Russian's problem.

WookieMan says


Russia could have negotiated with Ukraine. Both sides are too retarded, so they keep going with a war that's been ongoing, but just not a prominent one until the last year.


This is a war between Russia and the USA. It is not pleasant to think about, but it's to Russia's advantage (at this point) to drag this out as long as possible. Russia attempted to negotiate with Ukraine for years, that's the Minsk agreement. They weren't going to lose their base in Crimea, regardless of the referendum vote there. Donbass wanted to join Russia (it is reported, so who knows) for years - they have tried to declare independence. Who knows if the vote was for real or fair? Who cares?

The US doesn't care about sovereignty.

Russia probably will never trade with Europe again. I know it does SOME export of energy still to Europe, but that will dry up in time. It doesn't help Russia to export to Europe.

WookieMan says


They could have simply annexed the land via a cash deal and agreement. Ukrainians love their money as we know. Now both countries are destroying demographics for a generation. They'll be in a hell hole state for the foreseeable future.


Well, that's a good point, they should have at least OFFERED it. I think it would have been rejected, but yeah, this would have been good propaganda points for them.

I agree, Ukraine is destroyed for at least 2 generations.

WookieMan says


They can barely run their own oil and gas rigs without foreign assistance. If they can't do that, then yes, that effects the rest of the planet with completely viable resources sitting in the ground. Not every country has that.


It appears the US does as well. The only question for Russia is can Russia keep its citizens happy enough not to revolt? They seem to be doing fine in that regard.

WookieMan says


I didn't know this was difficult to understand. Most/many counties have to import energy. Russia has a lot and doesn't know what it's doing.


Russia doesn't need "money". Money is just fiat paper now. What do they need from other countries?

I think what Russia would be smart to do, but probably won't do, is internal development. They have plenty of energy, and energy == money, they are equivalent. All our modern wealth and ease of life is directly related to energy availability. Our EASY LIFE is a direct result of how abundant energy resources are. I think Russia exports energy not for trade, but for strategic alliances. China and India are supporting them, that's like 1/2 the world.
266   GNL   2023 Mar 16, 8:51pm  

WookieMan says


Russia has a lot and doesn't know what it's doing.

How do you know what their plan is? Why has the US closed ANWR? Is there a strategy? Maybe the last nation to hold oil wins?
267   RWSGFY   2023 Mar 16, 11:10pm  

GNL says


WookieMan says


Russia has a lot and doesn't know what it's doing.

How do you know what their plan is? Why has the US closed ANWR? Is there a strategy? Maybe the last nation to hold oil wins?



Wow, after a year of watching all that Soviet stupidity on display there are still people believing in CCCP having some kind of clever plan?

LOL

Their one and only clever plan died along with bunch of VDV troops in Hostomel. It, of course, was a reused '79 Afghanistan plan, which, in turn was reused '68 Czechoslovakia plan.

CCCP is like a circus horse: capable only of going in circles.
268   richwicks   2023 Mar 17, 12:11am  

RWSGFY says

CCCP is like a circus horse: capable only of going in circles.


The CCCP stopped existing on December 26, 1991.

If you can't get this right, after being corrected multiple times, why should anybody take you seriously? You don't even know the USSR doesn't exist anymore.
269   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 17, 7:30am  

When I see stories such as this, I'm so glad that there are government officials there to protect us.

Months after the 'incident' ...

Minnesota Nuke Plant Admits To 400,000 Gallon Leak Of Radioactive Water

Local officials said the leak "poses no health and safety risk to the local community or environment" and has not reached the Mississippi River or surrounding aquifers.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/minnesota-nuke-plant-admits-400000-gallon-leak-radioactive-water

PS: Maybe wearing masks while drinking the radiated water would help? Is there a 'vaccine' for radiation?
270   Bd6r   2023 Mar 17, 8:58am  

RayAmerica says


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/minnesota-nuke-plant-admits-400000-gallon-leak-radioactive-water

Not downplaying incompetence of gubbermint officials, but the article was written by a fucking idiot as well. How much tritium was in water? How does the amount of tritium in this water compares with natural concentration of tritium? How does this potential radiation exposure compare with flying in airplane to another continent?

Journalists are just as stupid as gubbermint officials, and most articles on ZH are scare porn/clickbait.
271   AmericanKulak   2023 Mar 17, 9:02am  

Journalists just compile and partially re-write Press Releases and PR Statements these days.
272   stereotomy   2023 Mar 17, 9:06am  

Bd6r says

RayAmerica says


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/minnesota-nuke-plant-admits-400000-gallon-leak-radioactive-water

Not downplaying incompetence of gubbermint officials, but the article was written by a fucking idiot as well. How much tritium was in water? How does the amount of tritium in this water compares with natural concentration of tritium? How does this potential radiation exposure compare with flying in airplane to another continent?

Journalists are just as stupid as gubbermint officials, and most articles on ZH are scare porn.

Up until the 1990's, high end watches had tritium paint for luminescence (Rolex, etc.). Tritium has 2 extra neutrons, which makes it unstable. The extra neutron escapes the nucleus, but, as a relatively massive particle, is slowed by hydrocarbon or carbon. Also, the momentum or energy of the ejected neutron is relatively low, since the hydrogen atom is so small, so tritium is relatively safe in low dosages. We get more radiation from eating a bananna (Potassium 40 - look it up).
273   Bd6r   2023 Mar 17, 9:07am  

stereotomy says

We get more radiation from eating a bananna (Potassium 40 - look it up).

or granite countertops, or basements in Rockies (radon)
274   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 18, 3:47pm  

Bd6r says

Journalists are just as stupid as gubbermint officials, and most articles on ZH are scare porn/clickbait.


It's better than drudgereport, completely co-opted several years ago. And it's not propaganda like all the mainstream outlets. But for you to call this an article is a bit exaggerated. It's not more than a few sentences, and what you call fear-mongering, is just them saying, why wasn't it reported sooner. Seems like you have some vendetta against the site that mainly reports on financial news, and over the last few weeks, have gotten it right more consistently than any other outlet I know.
275   richwicks   2023 Mar 18, 4:37pm  

NuttBoxer says


Bd6r says


Journalists are just as stupid as gubbermint officials, and most articles on ZH are scare porn/clickbait.


It's better than drudgereport, completely co-opted several years ago. And it's not propaganda like all the mainstream outlets. But for you to call this an article is a bit exaggerated. It's not more than a few sentences, and what you call fear-mongering, is just them saying, why wasn't it reported sooner. Seems like you have some vendetta against the site that mainly reports on financial news, and over the last few weeks, have gotten it right more consistently than any other outlet I know.



I'm in agreement with Bd6r that most of what Zerohedge posts, is nonsense.

I used to read it but they kicked me off when they kept posting shit like "this chart needs no explanation" - and I'd ask for an explanation and nobody could give me one, and I pointed that out.

It's a clickbait site mostly, and it's LAZY. It's like reading 4chan, 99% of it is nonsense, and I don't want to rummage around the sewer looking for the penny that is somewhere in there. I'll let other people do it, and repost it here. This site, is essentially a filter. Plenty of nonsense gets on here as well, but the signal to noise ratio is far lower.

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