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Christians that don’t take the Bible literally
You look for eternal life, I wouldn't want that. Seriously, I don't fear oblivion, but existence forever? That's true hell. There's a reason they call it eternal rest.
Who is the "most famous climate scientist"? Name ONE
if any of the Bible is untrue, then God is a liar
Fear is the number one tool to control and manipulate people.
The Bible was written and rewritten by man.
Richwicks,
Have you ever looked into the theory that the Egyptians didn’t build the pyramids and that the pyramids are much older than what mainstream historians believe? And that the purpose of pyramids was to generate energy? The concept aligns with Tesla’s research.
It’s fascinating and makes a lot more sense than Egyptians building pyramids.
You probably know more about G T than I do.
This is why the lake of fire is actually created. It would be more uncomfortable for someone who doesn’t believe God to have to live with Him for eternity
I think the main reason is we are so occupied with making money and consuming. There is no mainstream push to explore our history and mainstream historians have no interest in being proven wrong and having to re-write history books. Plus imagine Tesla was right and there is a way to produce clean energy for the masses. The people in power would never allow it. Or energy companies would just buy you out and destroy that knowledge.
PeopleUnited says
Rubicon says
Fear is the number one tool to control and manipulate people.
Will you take the mark of the beast when the Antichrist forces everyone to take it or lose their head by guillotine?
The only way to lose your head is being involved with religious brainwashing/manipulation and fear mongering.
The fact that Adam and Eve or Noah might not have ever literally existed takes nothing away from the main point of the Bible which is that humans are incredibly flawed, and yet God still loves us.
To make arguments that human reason can’t possibly disprove certain stories in the Bible, just purely out of defense, insults humans and insults the God who created us.
richwicks says
er. If I believed there was a God like that, I would oppose it.
You do.
If God loves us (He does) He would not tell untrue stories.
Totally agree. It gets old and it’s pretty disgusting. I feel for people who are in these religious cults and can’t find a way out.
He Hasn’t come yet.
But during the great tribulation everyone will be faced with a choice to accept the mark of the beast or be killed. That’s not fear mongering, it is a warning for those left behind.
How do you know, for example, that Satan didn't compose the Bible, and THAT explains all the bloodshed and wars over religion?
You are convinced that ever other religion in the world is false, except for your religion, which you were luckily born into, and raised in.
I'm in a tiny minority pointing out that Ukraine's conflict began basically with the US overthrow of Ukraine, not because
What makes you certain the Bible is an exception?
PeopleUnited says
if any of the Bible is untrue, then God is a liar
The Bible was written and rewritten by man.
It is what it is.
When I argue this about ANY religion, it comes down to how do you know your religion is correct, and the answers are "I have faith" or "It helps me" or "It makes me a better person" - any or all of those can be true but that doesn't mean the religion is.
When the Spirit of God lives in you counterfeits are obvious. It’s a Spiritual thing. When Adam sinned he immediately died spiritually, but when we accept the gift of God in Jesus we are born again immediately with the Spirit.
I disagree. With Christianity you can actually read the New Testament which tells the story about the life and death of Jesus. His life is about the best documented historical event that has ever happened, so you should believe it if you believe anything historical.
Find a Roman document about his execution. They kept good records. I can believe it would have been falsified by now.
All the other religions I’ve looked at are either made up stories about things that never existed (Rama, Zeus, etc). Or they are just spin-offs of Christianity (Islam, Mormans), which just go to show the strength of the foundation of the religion.
Why do I have to do this? All the best records of Jesus’s existence are included in the Bible. You have multiple narratives from different authors that were recorded within the lifetime of the people who knew Jesus.
These writing weren’t corrupted, the original Greek is still available if you’d like to attempt your own translation.
Finally, if this was a giant conspiracy to trick everyone, these guys were more dedicated then any cultists I’m aware of since all of them were martyrs except John.
You can’t go and say that there was a historical Jesus but then claim the writings about him were corrupted.
Why don’t you show me the Roman records of Jesus’s non miraculous life since their records were so good?
Your position shows your fear. You can’t deny the historical reality of Jesus, yet you can’t handle if he actually said what he said and did what he did. So instead you claim the writings about him were corrupted, which is laughable.
things that never existed (Rama, Zeus, etc)
Just because the people who handed down the most ancient stories of the Bible verbally for thousands of years didn’t include that Adam and Eve or Noah were parables
Explain the Qu'ron then.
But what made god and what was his origin?
And he doesn’t (tell us untrue stories). Man does. Man has written and re-written the Bible.
If the world - according to the Bible - is only 6,000 years old how does that align with the ice age, with foot prints (carbon dates back to 20,000 years ago) or excavation of ancient sites that date back to 9500-8000 BC (like Göbekli Tepe)?
Well said.
What I can’t wrap my head around is where Does anything come from. Why does anything exist? The only explanation is a god. But what made god and what was his origin?
What’s your thought on this?
The Israeli / Palestinian conflict is NOT over religion. It's over land. Religion is the excuse we are given. It's basically two ethnic groups
Maybe the "London Hammer" is real.
https://www.historicmysteries.com/the-london-hammer/
The Antikythera Mechanism
human civilization has arisen independently many times
After the Tower of Babel incident different cultures arose independently due to language barriers and subsequent isolation. https://answersingenesis.org/human-evolution/cavemen/how-are-cavemen-different/
"The Antikythera Mechanism also proved that highly precise gears existed many centuries earlier than previously thought."
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The Milky Way is no run-of-the-mill galaxy, according to a new study.
A team of astronomers recently discovered that our spiral-shaped home galaxy is actually too big for its surroundings, Science Alert reported.
The Milky Way is located in a “neighborhood” called the Local Sheet, which is a flat arrangement of galaxies that share similar velocities and are surrounded by empty space called voids.
The team explained that the Local Sheet serves as an example of a cosmological wall and separates the Local Void from the Southern Void. The relationship between the galaxies in the Local Sheet has a strong influence on their behavior, such as their similar velocities relative to the expansion of the Universe.
But the Milky Way appears to be an exception.
In their paper, researchers conducted an analysis using simulations from a project called IllustrisTNG, which models the physical Universe.
They found that, being a billion light years across and containing millions of galaxies, very few galaxies located within a cosmological wall structure are as big as the Milky Way.
The study underscores the importance of considering the local environment when studying our home galaxy, rather than assuming that it is in an average spot in the universe.
The environmental context could also help explain some previously unexplained phenomena, such as the odd arrangement of satellite galaxies around Andromeda and the peculiar lack of them around the Milky Way.