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General Ivashov: "I fucking told you so"


               
2023 Feb 21, 1:26pm   7,193 views  42 comments

by Eric_Holder   follow (0)  




Vladimir Putin is leading Russia to defeat and humiliation in Ukraine, according to one of Moscow's most respected military figures, who also blames the President for uniting the West with his disastrous invasion.

Retired army colonel-general Leonid Ivashov had called for the president's resignation a year ago before the war started over a 'criminal' policy in 'provoking' an 'artificial' conflict, foreseeing it would trigger disaster.

Now he says the carnage across the border is worse than he imagined.

Ivashov, chairman of the independent All-Russian Officers' Assembly and a former top aide to a famous Soviet defence minister, lambasted Putin, declaring: 'We did not expect such a series of mistakes, wrong actions during this military operation.'

'What happened in the end? Basically what we expected, but much worse,' said the general, a key figure in the Soviet-era Red Army and later the Russian military, in an interview with Republic independent media.

At the operational-tactical level, we did not think that within a year we would not be able to liberate the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

'We did not think that there would be such heavy losses, although I then said there would be tens of thousands of dead on both sides.

'But everything turned out to be much worse.'

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'It was not expected that there would be such destruction: in fact, entire small towns and villages were demolished to their foundations,' Ivashov said.

'Further, I wrote that we would find ourselves a pariah state, but, frankly, I did not think that we would not have a single ally that has serious influence on the political, economic or military-technical level.'

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'Russia in such a picture of the world is not mentioned at all as a political player,' he said. 'So now they will create a bipolar world, but without our participation.'

Putin's disastrous invasion of Ukraine had 'saved NATO' with Finland and Sweden due to join, he continued. 'We have delivered the whole of Europe into the hands of the Americans…' due to Putin's ineptness.

'There was no Collective West before, there were a lot of contradictions there. And today we are creating this Collective West with our own hands.'

Ivashov said Putin blundered by not properly seeking other solutions in Donetsk and Luhansk, before launching his invasion.

'Did we raise this issue at the UN General Assembly? No! We immediately moved tanks there. Every problem has multiple solutions. And most importantly - do not choose the worst. But we, unfortunately, chose the worst.'

He also scathingly criticised Putin for the use of private armies in the conflict, stressing it leads to confused command structures.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11748817/Ukraine-Retired-Russian-general-says-Putin-leading-country-defeat-humiliation.html

PS. Same guy one year ago: https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/ex-russia-general-warns-putin-against-criminal-ukraine-invasion/

PPS. BTW, I remember we used to have a thread on his last year's open letter but I can't find it on the site anymore. Censored?

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1   Bd6r   @   2023 Feb 21, 1:35pm  

Eric Holder says

PPS. BTW, I remember we used to have a thread on his last year's open letter but I can't find it on the site anymore. Censored?

Tis???

https://patrick.net/post/1343609/2022-02-08-interesting-development-in-russian
2   Bd6r   @   2023 Feb 21, 1:36pm  

Eric Holder says

Retired army colonel-general Leonid Ivashov

A SOROS STOOGE! PLANT BY VICTORIA NULAND!!! OR CGI???
3   Eric_Holder   @   2023 Feb 21, 1:38pm  

Bd6r says

Eric Holder says


PPS. BTW, I remember we used to have a thread on his last year's open letter but I can't find it on the site anymore. Censored?

Tis???

https://patrick.net/post/1343609/2022-02-08-interesting-development-in-russian


Looks like it. I was sure it had general's name in it but apparently it doesn't. So no censorship on p.net, thanks God.
4   Eric_Holder   @   2023 Feb 21, 1:38pm  

Bd6r says


Eric Holder says


Retired army colonel-general Leonid Ivashov

A SOROS STOOGE! PLANT BY VICTORIA NULAND!!! OR CGI???



ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!
5   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2023 Feb 21, 1:44pm  

Why do you care what some general says about Russia? Is that your home country by ancestry or something? If you're an American, shouldn't you care more about our so called president visiting a foreign country instead of Ohio? I just don't get the angle here? To wallow in the misery of war..?
6   RWSGFY   @   2023 Feb 21, 2:01pm  

cisTits says


So
The
Fuck
What?

Is that the BEST that you can do, Eric Holder?


An accurate prediction. Not a small thing nowadays. Better than 99% of the crap in our very own dedicated thread (and elsewhere on the site). Everything the guy predicted came true (except for Turkey jumping in). Doesn't get better than that.
7   RWSGFY   @   2023 Feb 21, 3:49pm  

cisTits says


RWSGFY says


An accurate prediction


No it isn't.



Bah, did we read the same article? Predicted an actual long attritional war instead of SCHMO - check. Casualties in tens and hundreds of thousands on both sides - check. NATO consolidating - check. And so on and so forth.

And he did it at the time the consensus everywhere was that the war will be swift and there might or might not be an insurgency. All the "experts" were really disagreeing about was whether the initial pre-insurgency phase would last 48 or 72 hours.

Nobody did better analysis on what was going to happen than these 2 CCCP officers - General Ivashov and Colonel Khodarenok. That includes both our "intelligence agencies" and CCCP's GRU/FSB.
8   Ceffer   @   2023 Feb 21, 3:57pm  

So, Russia has Globalists, oligarchs and sundry opportunists whose wagons are just as hitched to Ukrainian corruption and criminal enterprises as Biden Actor et alia. One would expect them to shriek with agitprop.

It's not Russia that is becoming isolated. It is the insane, Satanist lying West (foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC, EU, City of London, NATO, BIS, Swiss Octagon etc. etc.)that through programmed treachery has isolated itself from the rest of the World that is sick of it all.

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