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Silicon Valley Bank Goes Under, Won't be the Last...


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2023 Mar 10, 9:47am   43,872 views  326 comments

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To get out of the collapse in 2008, apparently the plan was to never raise interest rates again. Now that it's impossible, the bubble is moving to banks. Funny thing is, I had applied for an open position with them about a month ago. Now I know why I never heard back...

Oh yeah, and to once again blow away the bullshit about everyone being insured, read the article about how some depositors will have to pray dividend sales will someday return their deposits to them.

For some fun search bank run and see what some of the top images are.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/300-billion-reasons-why-svb-contagion-spreading-broader-banking-system


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110   mell   2023 Mar 12, 8:20pm  

ad says

mell says



There is no match for the Fed bazooka, they'll just inflate their way out of this. Shorts already have made their money, it's very dangerous being short against the Fed


they'll keep the financial system propped up in order to keep the federal government solvent especially with debt to gdp ratio and debt service payments as a percentage of the federal government budget .... this allows the federal government to not have to enact drastic changes such as to entitlements

i agree as far as inflating out of a crisis as inflation is the tax ultimately for the middle and working class

i see the fed raising to 5.00% for the Fed Funds rate but no higher as they change their plan to go higher than 5.25% and they'll continue quantitative tightening

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ad says

mell says



There is no match for the Fed bazooka, they'll just inflate their way out of this. Shorts already have made their money, it's very dangerous being short against the Fed


they'll keep the financial system propped up in order to keep the federal government solvent especially with debt to gdp ratio and debt service payments as a percentage of the federal government budget .... this allows the federal government to not have to enact drastic changes such as to entitlements

i agree as far as inflating out of a crisis as inflation is the tax ultimately for the middle and working class

i see the fed raising to 5.00% for the Fed Funds rate but no higher as they change their plan to go higher than 5.25% and they'll continue quantitative tightening

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Agreed. I'm not for it but most countries of the world have embarked on a similar voyage, maybe at some point we have another economic system take over, but for the foreseeable future this is the MO. Plus it makes debt and debt to gdp relative if all countries are debtors of each other. It sucks for those without assets as it's continued devaluation of their currency/buying power, but most will take it over the fear of unemployment. It's very difficult to detach from this system or going Galt. But avoiding woke companies is not hard to do and is so worth it.
111   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 12, 9:32pm  

No one's saying unwinding the largest debt bubble in the world's history is going to be easy, or fun. But if we ever want to get out of debt-slavery, improve our standard of living, and be free, it's the only way. And it will happen regardless, hyperinflation is just a longer, more painful, and more explosive road to the same end. Of course they're hoping to keep all this up until they can have a planned collapse and transition over to CDBC, but early trials are a disaster. It won't happen.

Watched a financial analyst on local news, guy said two things ad-naseum. Deposits are ensured, and no reason to panic. I got the impression he's scared as shit of a loss of confidence tomorrow leading to further bank runs.

That bazooka doesn't mean dick if everyone pulls their money tomorrow. Confidence is what props up the lies, and it's fading fast.
112   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 12, 9:36pm  

ad says

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Now the crypto friendly bank, Signature Bank, has been shut down by the government

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/03/12/crypto-friendly-signature-bank-shut-down-by-state-regulators-fed/

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So much for the SVB being isolated...
113   EBGuy   2023 Mar 12, 10:55pm  

It gets better...
Eight years before the second-largest bank failure in American history occurred this week, the bank’s president personally pressed Congress to reduce scrutiny of his financial institution, citing the “low risk profile of our activities and business model,” according to federal records reviewed by The Lever.

Three years later — after the bank spent more than half a million dollars on federal lobbying — lawmakers obliged.
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Touting “SVB’s deep understanding of the markets it serves, our strong risk management practices,” Becker argued that his bank would soon reach $50 billion in assets, which under the law would trigger “enhanced prudential standards,” including more stringent regulations, stress tests, and capital requirements for his and other similarly sized banks.

Becker insisted that $250 billion was a more appropriate threshold.

https://www.levernews.com/svb-chief-pressed-lawmakers-to-weaken-bank-risk-regs/
114   richwicks   2023 Mar 13, 2:52am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

It's the reason, for my whole adult life, I only use "Silicon Valley" as a Pejorative.


I think this place has cut its own throat by getting into bed with the Intelligence agencies. I fully expect this place to be the next Detroit.

There is SO MUCH BULLSHIT here now. Tesla is just a dumb idea, electric cars are a dumb idea. So many companies just make bullshit that are ESG stupidity. Large firms are hiring frankly morons based on skin color, nationality, sexual and gender identity. I can SEE it starting to fall apart.

Twitter isn't going to recover. Youtube is dying on the vine. Google has become a 2nd, maybe 3rd tier search engine. Facebook is worthless, Twitter is worthless. There's no need for better and faster processors at least for the consumer market, and frankly we can't make the chips much faster anyhow.

And censorship is obvious, and it just drives people away. It's like IMDB, that used to be a great site, but since it was purchased, it just promotes the latest film, there's no discussion there, all the rating are fake and bullshit to the point people don't even use the site anymore. That's going to happen to every company pushing an agenda. I'm sure they have SHIT-TONS of money from the government to stay afloat, but they are going to be ignored. You can't force people to use these services, even if they are free.
115   Booger   2023 Mar 13, 3:29am  

The federal reserve will use this as an excuse to not raise rates, or at least only do a 25 basis point raise.
116   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 13, 6:12am  

SVB (ticker symbol SIVB) has stopped trading. I'm disappointed that I can't watch the stock slide from 106.04 to zero while shorts cover (do they even need to do that?).
118   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Mar 13, 7:00am  

fucking nyse halting trades… faggots
119   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 13, 7:21am  

cisTits says


Booger says


The federal reserve will use this as an excuse to not raise rates, or at least only do a 25 basis point raise.


Don't see how. This doesn't impact inflation or the money supply at all.



It does if they have to print money to cover the shortfall when they sell those MBS's at a steep discount and have to print money to make up the difference. But really it's probably not that much in the grand scheme of things so really isn't inflationary much, I would think.

Besides that, if the federal reserve raised rates 75 basis points, as they should, they would be doing the right thing. As history shows us, the federal reserve rarely, if ever, does the right thing and is always looking for an excuse to not do the right thing.
120   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 13, 7:23am  

We've been running the entire country on excessive amounts of debt, and the banks were only too willing to create more opportunities to meet the demand while the regulators look the other way. Bankers always get more and more greedy, and in the end they can't control themselves. That's what's behind the insanity known as derivatives, whereby 'loans' are created using other loans as collateral.

The only answer out of this mess will be a Weimar Republic type inflation. We all know how that all worked out, providing an opportunity for a 'strong man' to make things right. Unfortunately his plan included war, which ended up killing over 50 million people. That may be what's next. Gerald Celente often states: "When all else fails, they take us to war."
121   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 13, 7:31am  

So if you happened to have had a short position in Silicon Valley Bank, you don't even need to cover?
122   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 13, 7:34am  

Any of you ever heard of Silicon Valley Bank before this? Because I haven't. Just curious.
123   1337irr   2023 Mar 13, 7:38am  

zzyzzx says

Any of you ever heard of Silicon Valley Bank before this? Because I haven't. Just curious.

Yes, I wasn’t impressed with their IT infrastructure.
124   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 13, 7:59am  

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/13/goldman-sachs-no-longer-expects-the-fed-to-hike-rates-in-march.html

Goldman Sachs no longer expects the Fed to hike rates in March, cites stress on banking system
125   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 13, 8:02am  

cisTits says

Don't see how. This doesn't impact inflation or the money supply at all.


Where do you think the money's coming from..?
126   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 13, 8:24am  

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/12/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

Dow jumps 200 points as investors bet SVB shock will get the Fed to back off hikes
127   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 13, 8:52am  

zzyzzx says

Any of you ever heard of Silicon Valley Bank before this? Because I haven't. Just curious.

Prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, 99%+ of Americans couldn't tell you anything about Pearl Harbor.
128   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 13, 9:03am  

zzyzzx says

So if you happened to have had a short position in Silicon Valley Bank, you don't even need to cover?

Short Sellers Make $500 Million on SVB’s Demise. Collecting Won’t Be Easy
One-day mark-to-market profit of $513 million on short bets

In this case, with this massive collapse, the shorts are all paper profits. These investors are going to have a lot of fun attempting to collect.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-10/shorts-make-500-million-on-svb-demise-collecting-won-t-be-easy
129   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 13, 9:18am  

Everyone here remembers '08 right? What a fucking huge mistake it was to bail out AIG and the banks? This is literally throwing gasoline on the fire. If you don't remember, prepare to get burned.
130   ElYorsh   2023 Mar 13, 9:29am  

NuttBoxer says

Everyone here remembers '08 right? What a fucking huge mistake it was to bail out AIG and the banks? This is literally throwing gasoline on the fire. If you don't remember, prepare to get burned.

They never put out the fire, just contained it and now they are running out of hoses and extinguishers.
131   RayAmerica   2023 Mar 13, 10:15am  

Now this should strike fear in you. I'm not buying anything that this guy is selling:

Biden Insists "The Banking System Is Safe"
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/watch-live-president-biden-explains-resilience-us-banking-system
132   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 13, 10:46am  

Reminder I had from watching that local financial guy last night. Whatever they tell you, it's the opposite. The more they say it, the more worried they are.
133   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 13, 10:50am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/silicon-valley-bank-crisis-force-161835121.html

The Silicon Valley Bank crisis will force the Fed to slash rates by 100 basis points to prevent contagion, market guru says
134   Ceffer   2023 Mar 13, 10:52am  

Does that mean DARPA won't be able to fund the 'Flat Earth Disinformation Project' any more? I was rather fond of that one, it was only a round billion to launch, what a bargain to deceive and beguile the public from any meaningful truth.
135   RC2006   2023 Mar 13, 10:58am  

RayAmerica says

Biden Insists "The Banking System Is Safe"


That tells me economic collapse incoming.
136   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 13, 11:17am  

Plunge protection team hard at work, DOW, SNP, NASDAQ all dropped like a rock on the open today.
137   Ceffer   2023 Mar 13, 11:22am  

Just wait until the Canary Islands landslide of the Swiss banks occurs.
138   Patrick   2023 Mar 13, 11:25am  

zzyzzx says

Any of you ever heard of Silicon Valley Bank before this? Because I haven't. Just curious.


Yes, it's a thing around here, or used to be.
141   Ceffer   2023 Mar 13, 11:33am  

On the MSM propaganda liar's scale, Robert Reich is somewhere between Don Lemon and Satan himself.
142   Blue   2023 Mar 13, 11:41am  

Ceffer says

Just wait until the Canary Islands landslide of the Swiss banks occurs.

I guess they happen often. Good that the customers never complain as they were stolen funds. “Customers” even come back with even more money for “safe heaven”.
143   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Mar 13, 11:47am  

For those who think the Federal Reserve is in complete control of interest rates:


https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/repo-rate

Some of you may remember this being called out prior to the scamdemic(timing is no coincidence). Looks like it worked for a little while, but they just kicked the can, and that can's about to hit the wall.
144   Ceffer   2023 Mar 13, 12:18pm  

Wow! I knew the SVB domino collapse would be impressive, but I didn't think it would look like this!

145   Ceffer   2023 Mar 13, 12:22pm  

"More Banks Shut Down, the Domino Effect Continues"https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=218933


147   Ceffer   2023 Mar 13, 12:40pm  

More lessons from the annals of DUHHHHHHHHHH!

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