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If the Republican Party was run like the Democrats, there would be no primary.

richwicks says

Trump won't be allowed to win the nomination.

That could be the end of the Republican Party. Which at the high end is Rinos anyway so no big loss.
But its not like anyone else has a better argument. Who’s going to stop him? Media would love him to win, he was best thing for their ratings.

PeopleUnited says

But its not like anyone else has a better argument. Who’s going to stop him?

The intelligence agencies will stop him.

Trump will only be allowed to win the nomination if the steal is already in for the general election. Americans already accepted one obviously stolen election, they'll accept another. Depends on what kind of information they have on public sentiment.

They'll proceed with caution, they can't steal the election again if entirely discredits the government.

They aren't exactly great at their jobs anymore. If they were still doing well at their jobs, people wouldn't even know there was internet censorship, people wouldn't know that the FIB entrapped people on January 6th, they wouldn't suspect the election was stolen, they wouldn't know the vaccines were worthless. They've fucked up a lot in the last few years.

You bemoan this, but I'm telling you, if people know the truth, they can make correct decisions. There's 330 million Americans, somebody will come up with a solution to the problem.

richwicks says

The intelligence agencies will stop him.

Trump will only be allowed to win the nomination if the steal is already in for the general election. Americans already accepted one obviously stolen election, they'll accept another. Depends on what kind of information they have on public sentiment.

They'll proceed with caution, they can't steal the election again if entirely discredits the government.

Oh please, the Democrats stole the election with illegal ballot harvesting and mail in ballots. The Rinos let them do it because they hate Trump.

“Intelligence “ had no role. They were not needed.richwicks says

they can't steal the election again

Oh, so we do still have a republic. Good you finally admitted it.

PeopleUnited says

Oh please, the Democrats stole the election with illegal ballot harvesting and mail in ballots. The Rinos let them do it because they hate Trump.

“Intelligence “ had no role. They were not needed

Alright, but notice Antifa and BLM stopped being a central thing in the news, and stopped being supported, and were never arrested.

Here's what the CIA does to do a coup: They foment "unrest" against "the evil leader", they insert propaganda into everything - have you noticed how many "former" intelligence officials are in our "news" now? They create FAKE GROUPS to protest, paid to do it, create havoc to give the impression there's real genuine unrest - it's an astroturf campaign.

They did this in Ukraine.PeopleUnited says

Oh, so we do still have a republic. Good you finally admitted it.

Do not fucking do that. Do not take me out of context, don't strawman me, don't distort what I've said. This is not productive to discussion, it's dishonest. What I said was, and I quote:

richwicks says

They'll proceed with caution, they can't steal the election again if entirely discredits the government.

IF it entirely discredits the government THEN they can't steal the election, but Trump will not be allowed to be president. They'll kill him first.

They were able to steal the election last time, maybe they think they can again. RFK might be controlled opposition, the CIA killed his father and uncle after all - he knows this. I don't think Biden will run, but who knows? Maybe they'll just deepfake him for 4 years, the press will cooperate. I'm trying to think who might be PLAUSIBLE to run.. Ron DeSantis I believe is controlled opposition, maybe they'll install him.

They don't care if it's a Republican or Democrat, as long as whatever is a willing puppet, that dances on the strings. That's what George W. Bush was, what Obama was, what Biden OBVIOUSLY is. I wouldn't say anybody that has been a possibility of being a president wasn't entirely controlled with the POSSIBLE exception of Trump. Trump may himself be controlled opposition, but he really stirred up the toilet. I doubt they want him back, he did enormous damage to the machine, which frankly, I approve of.

Trump might be controlled opposition, but either way he was elected in 2016. And despite the fact that there was enough illegal ballot harvesting to swing the election in 2020, it might be tougher to pull that off again.

The point is that if they can’t steal every election, then we do have a republic. They have always had their uniparty candidates Bush v Gore either way we lose, same with Romney v Obama. But Trump v Clinton was a different animal it seems. And other than the obvious COVID F up and missteps on things like bumpstocks Trump was quite responsible with his time in office.

I have to admit that such honesty is very unusual in a Democrat.

PeopleUnited says

The point is that if they can’t steal every election, then we do have a republic.

But they don't have to steal every election, just most of them. Getting 5 people into congress who aren't absolutely terrible doesn't magically make a republic.

Look, I believe the real problem is people simply don't know. They can't. HOW do you find out what is going on when 90% of what is considered "news" is just pure unadulterated propaganda? How can you even find out what is true?

Here's what "ukraine coup" turns up under Google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+coup

Look at the first result. They are correct, however, who in the United States will take it seriously?

The only way you can know, if somebody tells you to look up the conversation between Geoffrey Pyatt and Victoria Nuland, verify the date on the audio recording on youtube, find out that she was indeed picking out the next leader of Ukraine in that conversation, point out that Viktor Yanukovych fled office 2 weeks and 4 days after Nuland's conversation was made public, then explain that it makes no sense for Nuland to be picking out the next leader of Ukraine before the old one was even gone.

And then you have to hope they can reason which 1 out of 10 people can do.

If the media just told the truth, we wouldn't be on the verge of WWIII.

The worst, most vile people, climb to the top in "news" and Tucker Carlson's father was CIA.

PeopleUnited says

They have always had their uniparty candidates Bush v Gore either way we lose, same with Romney v Obama. But Trump v Clinton was a different animal it seems.

America has a very long history of manipulating the Presidential election process in order to give us two candidates that the elite ruling class want. Trump in 2016 is the exception, as was Andrew Jackson (rigged election of 1824) & Goldwater in 1964 (a very pivotal election in American history). Recall that in 2016, the more the mainstream media attacked the outsider Trump, the more his polling number went up.

This is a classic book that details how the elites have always controlled the election process to their advantage:

A Choice Not An Echo (1964) – Free Download

https://eagleforum.org/about/phyllis-books/a-choice-not-an-echo-1964.html

richwicks says

Getting 5 people into congress who aren't absolutely terrible doesn't magically make a republic.

But Congress is not the Republic. The people are.

RayAmerica says

America has a very long history of manipulating the Presidential election process in order to give us two candidates that the elite ruling class want.

That’s what’s my dad taught me decades ago. Like I said either here or in another thread, by the 20th century, the new world order plan to control the world was at a critical mass, it cannot be stopped, but it can be slowed. We still have a Republic, even if it is far from perfect. The battle lines are clear, they are targeting natural law on every front, murdering babies, forcing injections and restricting movement, canceling those who dare question the narrative, spreading fear of war and climate. It’s all about control. But for some reason they have not been able to fully implement their plans here in USA and until they do the world is benefiting from our Republic. A lot of it is due to the Holy Spirit restraining the evil, but when the rapture happens, well basically all hell breaks loose. Are you ready?

https://patrick.net/post/1378973/2023-04-02-the-rapture-thread?start=9

Democratic Pres. Candidate Takes Bold Stance on Biological Males Competing as ‘Transgender Females’ in Women’s Sports

“I am against people participating in women’s sports who are biologically male,” the Democratic presidential candidate said. “I think women have worked too hard to develop women’s sports over the past 30 years. I watched it happen, and I don’t think that’s fair.”
https://beckernews.com/democratic-pres-candidate-takes-bold-stance-on-biological-males-competing-as-transgender-females-in-womens-sports-50136/

PeopleUnited says

But for some reason they have not been able to fully implement their plans here in USA and until they do the world is benefiting from our Republic.

How exactly is the world benefitting from our supposed "Republic?"

We are the world's largest exporter of armaments. Our Government has a long history of overthrowing leaders and Governments, such as the coup in Ukraine in 2014, which led to the proxy war that we are supporting (and Ukraine has ZERO chance of winning). We created chaos in the Middle East with our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, justified by the lies of the leaders of our "Republic." We are the largest exporters of decadent American 'culture,' via our entertainment industry. We lead the world in abortions and are currently spreading the insanity of transgenderism to the rest of the world. We have even exported our junk food into other nations, which are now also becoming, like us, increasingly obese and suffering from diabetes, heart disease and cancer as a result. Our Pharmaceutical companies have exported their lies, and their dangerous "solutions" to the rest of the world. I could go on, but I'll stop here.

Again, how exactly is the rest of the world benefitting from our so called Republic?

Ask them why they want to come here.

PeopleUnited says

A lot of it is due to the Holy Spirit restraining the evil, but when the rapture happens, well basically all hell breaks loose. Are you ready?

I've been hearing about, and reading about, the "rapture" occurring at "any moment now ... it's that close ... because there has NEVER been a time such as this .... " for many, many years.
(People that think these are the 'worst of times' don't know much about history. Check out what it was like for believers during the European Inquisition which lasted for over 600 years, for example).

Way back in the early 1980s, I stumbled across a book by the Baptist preacher John R. Rice. It was written during the early outbreak of World War II (1939-40). Rice emphatically predicted that the rapture was "very near" because "everything is lining up" and because the "Anti-Christ is already on the scene in Adolf Hitler." I read very similar false analogies during the "rapture" craze of the 1980s.

Basically, the pre-trib rapture is false doctrine, born entirely out of the thoroughly false doctrinal system known as Dispensationalism. And, like all false doctrines, it does irreparable harm. I've known numerous "rapture ready" people over the years that basically gave up on life, etc. because they believed that they were going to be "out of here soon." Their lives are a wreck as a consequence, and, their faith has been shaken due to their 'trust' in a false doctrine.

When Christ returns, the graves will be opened and souls will be miraculously reunited with their bodies. At that time, judgment will take place immediately. Christ's return is not in two stages, but one.

RayAmerica says

I've been hearing about, and reading about, the "rapture" occurring at "any moment now .

I’m sure the Jews got tired of waiting for the Messiah too. In fact most of them missed it when he came the first time.

I’m not setting dates, I’m not claiming to know when or who the antichrist will be, but Jesus said the day will come as a theif, but at the same time he did say we would know the season. It’s not that things are falling apart or worse than ever. It’s that things are falling together. All the pieces are in place, internet, Middle East peace treaties, the gospel has been preached in all the world, we are ready for the return of Christ at any moment. Or it could be 100 years. Prepare for a quick departure but be ready for a long delay. just because we don’t know when it will happen doesn’t make the return of Christ any less imminent. You don’t have to believe that He will rescue believers before the imminent Tribulation, but you better believe you need Jesus because without Him, there is no hope.

The Messiah is the re-emergence of the space alien El who evolved and blended their genes into humans and who will re-anoint their intermediary elites, and cast a new Ark to lay waste to all other lowly tribes. The final battle between the Adamites and the Cananites will begin.

Will the Luciferian Serpent Lords win? Place your bets now! Adamites gird your loins.

I think I like the Rapture better. It's like being stoned immaculate and absorbed back into heaven.

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CNN is trying to marginalize and downplay RFK jr and DaSantis.
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PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Getting 5 people into congress who aren't absolutely terrible doesn't magically make a republic.

But Congress is not the Republic. The people are.

Only if the people act. The first thing needed to do to get them act, is to inform them.

PeopleUnited says

Ask them why they want to come here.

Propaganda is very effective. You know that.

I came to Silly Con Valley because we were going to change the world, FOR THE BETTER! We were going to bring technology and provide cheap education, take down the propaganda outlets, take on the narrative directly. We were going to provide you with all the tools to know anything about anywhere, or any situation.

What's Google now? What's Twitter, Facebook?

You have the tools, but the companies providing what we sought to produce and signed on to make, aren't here. At least the tools exist. We at least made that, and we made storage so incredibly cheap, and computing power so incredibly cheap, we'll just distribute the fuck out of everything, and demolish centralized control.

Our mistake was we thought the companies we made, wouldn't be infiltrated. So we'll just concentrate on making tools.

I remember thinking "oh youtube can't be censoring, it will ruin their credibility and people will leave them", but they were. Trying to convince people they were engaging in POLITICAL CENSORSHIP though, that was a challenge. Not so hard now, but I wish people recognized it was happening all the way back in 2008. If we could have, I think we would have avoided the Syrian and Libyan war at least. We at least slowed each down. Obama was arming terrorists, Al Qaeda in fact, to attack Syria. Mother fucker traitor scumbag.

PeopleUnited says

I’m sure the Jews got tired of waiting for the Messiah too. In fact most of them missed it when he came the first time.

Why do you think they "missed it?"

richwicks says

Only if the people act. The first thing needed to do to get them act, is to inform them.

The first thing needed actually is to give people a reason to care.

Your tone and Cliff Clavenesque presentation is unlikely to reach anyone. You come off as condescending, arrogant and quite frankly it is off putting, especially because your narrow view is often completely lacking balance.

Most people don’t care about the things you write (Patnetters may be an exception because most people are “conspiracy theorists” here) but the average American will have no interest and your tone is pushing them further away. For me, I think it is because I grew up knowing about these things from a little child. My parents and grandparents were fighting for liberty long before I was born. They never were reagonite, they were Goldwater Republicans and third party supporters after that. Unlike you who are a baby conspiracy theorist, who actually voted for Obama. It’s quite amusing to see you try to lecture us on the state of the world.

RayAmerica says

PeopleUnited says

I’m sure the Jews got tired of waiting for the Messiah too. In fact most of them missed it when he came the first time.

Why do you think they "missed it?"

The ultimate reason is they were looking for a different kind of savior, an earthly savior not a spiritual savior. But they also failed to focus on the scriptures, scripture reveals everything they needed to know, if they were paying attention it would have been so obvious who Jesus was.

It is also so obvious that He is coming again soon. It has been 2,000 years since he ascended. There were about 4,000 years before that. We are about to enter the 7th and final millennium. And there are many other signs, Jews back in their homeland, preparations for rebuilding the temple and instituting the priesthood/sacrifices, the technology in place to control buying and selling, the technology in place for the whole world to witness an event simultaneously, Middle East peace treaties, Russia collaborating with Iran and Turkey, China/India capable of fielding a 200,000,0000 man Army, the gospel has been preached in every nation. It’s only a moment away in the grand view of earth’s history.

PeopleUnited says

The ultimate reason is they were looking for a different kind of savior, an earthly savior not a spiritual savior.

Here's the reason the Bible gives:

"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19

PeopleUnited says

The first thing needed actually is to give people a reason to care.

You tell me, what does it take to get people to care that they've been lied into 7 wars, and have a government toying with nuclear war? I would think this is fucking important enough for people to care.

Maybe they just aren't worth saving. Maybe people deserve their prison.

PeopleUnited says

Your tone and Cliff Clavenesque presentation is unlikely to reach anyone. You come off as condescending, arrogant and quite frankly it is off putting,

I'm not changing my personality, and I'm not responsible for how you perceive me. You are.

If I'm wrong, point it out. I may reach incorrect conclusions, but I only care about facts. If you find me spouting bullshit that I think is a fact, and isn't, correct me. If you spot incorrect reasoning, correct me.

PeopleUnited says

Unlike you who are a baby conspiracy theorist, who actually voted for Obama.

For fuck's sake, Obama? I read his record, he voted to find the Iraq War every time, except when he was running for president, just like Clinton did. I knew what he was.

I gave $2,400 to Ron Paul, federal maximum, do you think I voted for Obama - really? I would have voted for... Tulsi Gabbard in 2012.. War is our greatest sin and it will destroy this country. Obama and Bush - what's the difference? Obama is just George W. Bush in blackface.

And I'm an EXPERIENCED conspiracy theorist, or researcher. I know that George H. Bush used Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ to help lie us into the FIRST Iraq War. I knew that 25 years ago, and I was shocked nobody seemed to care that happened, or they didn't believe it. I know who April Glaspie was, and what she did. I bet you don't.

PeopleUnited says

It’s quite amusing to see you try to lecture us on the state of the world.

Drop the insults, don't try to attack my ego. It's entirely independent of what people claim they think of me or actually do think of me.

If I'm incorrect about ANYTHING, point it out. Maybe I am. I've had this attitude for 30 years, and I've been corrected MANY times, and I look forward to be corrected again, but since I've done this so long, I have the experience of 1000's of people explaining to me, how I was wrong, so it's pretty rare that in the areas I know, that I'm wrong. But it does happen.

Do you remember @"Mostly Reader" - he tried to browbeat me into supporting this stupid war in Ukraine. He could have explained how I was wrong about the situation, but instead he tried to lie about it. He attempted to lie about Ukraine NOT being in civil war, NOT being overthrown by the United States. Now he could be FIB, government paid for PR shill, or more probably, he couldn't accept he was wrong. There's nothing wrong with being incorrect. There's nothing wrong with ignorance. But there is something wrong with ignoring you're ignorant.

For example here's a video on CNN from 2014 about the Donbass:


original link

I never stop looking.

Even CNN acknowledged the civil war, they'll deny it now. @"Mostly Reader" will deny it. I don't know if I should feel sorry for him, or feel contempt for him. If he's some sort of FIB twat, contempt, you can't convince a liar that he's incorrect, you can't wake up somebody that pretends to sleep.

I'm not pretending to be asleep, but I might be sleeping. I might be wrong. I'm always aware of this.

You are convinced about your religion btw, I find that arrogant - that the creator of all existence is specially connected to you. How arrogant is that? But I won't attack what I consider your delusion. There's no benefit for either of us to change your thinking in this matter, although I believe you're wrong. If I wanted to be mean, I could spend weeks pretending to be convinced of your religion. I will never do that to you, I will be as honest as I possibly can.

Is that arrogance? I'm guilty of something though, ignorance. I always will be, and I recognize that.

richwicks says

Maybe they just aren't worth saving. Maybe people deserve their prison.

They do. Like Ray America quoted. "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19

richwicks says

I was shocked nobody seemed to care that happened, or they didn't believe it.

When I told my classmates in school that bankers run the world most didn’t care, the rest didn’t believe it. So most people are apathetic, the rest need proof. But like you said proving to someone that their whole world view is based on lies is near impossible.

richwicks says

Is that arrogance?

It’s arrogant to tell the God that made you, that you don’t want a relationship with Him, when that is the thing He literally wants more than anything.

RayAmerica says

Here's the reason the Bible gives:

"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19

Sure the Jews of Jesus’ time rejected him because of their sin, just like anyone today who rejects Jesus.

But there were plenty of sincere Jews who still did not recognize Jesus as the Son of God because they had preconceived notions about what he would look like and do when the Messiah arrived. This is true even today for people of all ethnicity.

RFK Jr.: “Mega-Billionaires” are Using Climate Change to Usher in Totalitarian Controls of Population (Video)

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. joined Kim Iverson for an exclusive interview this past week after announcing his official run for US President in Boston late last week.

RFK Jr. is not your typical communist Democrat. Democrats must by very worried as RFK Jr. starts making the media rounds. The noted environmentalist is not a globalist totalitarian. He is a free market capitalist. That makes him unique on the current Democrat platform.

During his recent discussion with Iverson, Kennedy said the “mega-billionaires” are using climate change to usher in totalitarian controls of the population.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/rfk-jr-mega-billionaires-are-using-climate-change-to-usher-in-totalitarian-controls-of-population-video/

PeopleUnited says

It’s arrogant to tell the God that made you, that you don’t want a relationship with Him, when that is the thing He literally wants more than anything.

There is a creator of some sort, but if this is physics, or if I'm just an aspect of the mind of thinking creator, I don't know. I can understand the physics of it, at least aspects of it.

Don't you find it unlikely you were born into the right religion? There's 8 billion of us. And it's even worse than that, aren't you lucky you were born human?

I used to do dog rescue. The nicest, kindest, most loving, gentle soul I have ever known was a dog. I had to euthanize him in the end.

You are just completely convinced of your dogma. If you really believe, why would you ever do anything that is even slightly evil? But I know you have. We all have.

If there is a god in the sense YOU believe there is a god, I'd rather not trouble it. There's people in more need than I will ever be in. It would be selfish for me to trouble it, in any way. I don't want to be a burden.

RFK Jr Vows to PARDON Julian Assange and Other Political Dissidents as President

https://thelibertydaily.com/rfk-jr-vows-to-pardon-julian-assange-as-president/

PeopleUnited says

It’s arrogant to tell the God that made you, that you don’t want a relationship with Him, when that is the thing He literally wants more than anything.

Can you direct me to where the Bible teaches that? He wants that "more than anything?" Really?

RayAmerica says

RFK Jr Vows to PARDON Julian Assange and Other Political Dissidents as President

https://thelibertydaily.com/rfk-jr-vows-to-pardon-julian-assange-as-president/

How about the J6 political prisoners?

RFK jr. is being Ron Pauled. Google 2008 Republican Primaries for a preview of how this plays out.

stfu says

RFK jr. is being Ron Pauled. Google 2008 Republican Primaries for a preview of how this plays out.

I remember when a Ron Paul video would get like 300 views, and 50,000 comments on youtube.

Censorship isn't new.

Just imagine if we had a president in 2008 that didn't drag us into 5 new wars, and overthrow Ukraine.

Did not have this on my bingo card for 2023...
1. More crucifixes than you can count
2. Most discernable book in the background has Jesus in the title
3. And the biggest surprise, a Democratic primary candidate

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Blasts Open Borders: ‘Not Anti-Immigrant’ to Oppose Illegal Immigration

Kennedy wrote that Americans can be both “pro-immigration and pro-closing the border” with a focus on eliminating chaos in U.S. border towns that is currently taking hold as President Joe Biden’s administration ends Title 42, the public health authority, on May 11.

“Right now we have chaos at the border,” Kennedy wrote. “Human trafficking, criminality, intolerable stress on border states like Texas. It is a humanitarian nightmare.”

Kennedy noted that, as president, his “long-term solution to the border crisis” would be ending decades-long U.S. policies that meddle in Mexico and Central America, which he says has “create[d] desperate conditions south of the border.”

“The War on Drugs is one,” Kennedy wrote. “U.S.-funded dictators, juntas, paramilitaries, and death squads. Neoliberal extraction of resources. Unpayable debts. It is inhumane and hypocritical to deny immigration while creating the conditions that drive immigration. As President, I will change these policies.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/05/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-blasts-open-borders-not-anti-immigrant-to-oppose-illegal-immigration/

RFK Jr: We Spent $24 Trillion — All We Got Out of It Was the Systematic Gutting of the Middle Class (short video)
https://rumble.com/v2m11ni-rfk-jr-we-spent-24-trillion-all-we-got-out-of-it-was-the-systematic-gutting.html

RFK Jr: CIA Involved in Assassinations, Rigging Elections, Attempted Coup d'état in 1/3 of Nations (very short video)

https://rumble.com/v2maax2-rfk-jr-cia-involved-in-assassinations-rigging-elections-attempted-coup-dtat.html

RFK Jr Explains How the Ukraine War Started
https://rumble.com/v2mdsz0-rfk-jr-explains-how-the-ukraine-war-started.html