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Time for a cool change, out with Budweiser and with the new.


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2023 Apr 7, 8:59am   29,401 views  338 comments

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Across the redneck nation there are calls for a new official beer of Rural America. Butwiper really dropped the ball and screwed the pooch on this one.
I suggest Becks or St Paulie Girl, as both of those are under $12 a 12 pack these days. Where has Butwiper has been pushing the boundaries to how much they could charge for their Cultural Grog. I wouldn't mind seeing Shiner Boc become a huge national brand with a wider distribution than it currently has. Though when I do find it at the Publix here in South Florida, it's around $10.99 or more, for a 6pack. Even Guiness is a dollar cheaper than that on average.

I heard some chime in telling everyone to support their local craft beer brewers. I have never EVER had one single beer from a craft brewer that tasted anything like a old traditional beer recipe. And that's very important to me. I don't want off tastes, and hints of herbs, berries, citrus, or your Xer's vag yeast. Whart ever the fuck they put in there!

The problem I have with local craft beers, they have no respect for the traditional tried and true methods, and just brew a proper Lager, Pilsner, Ale, or Stout. They always have some untraditional ingredients in there, that makes it taste like crap, while they give a cute flavor name, which taste nothing like they suggest. Plus you can factor a good 40% of the cost of their beer goes into their packaging and marketing efforts. They claim they are craft beers, but they are trying like hell to be a major distributor at the expense of not focusing on a product worthy of such hullabaloo. And if I'm at a one more party and there's nothing left in the beer cooler but 9 seltzer fizzy beer, or sour IPAs in the cooler. I'm going loose my mind. Who brings these nasty beers, then proceeds to drink the hosts honest real beers? Nobody likes your soda beer, and IPA leave that crap at home. Who ever is doing that!

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299   NuttBoxer   2023 Jul 12, 4:16pm  

richwicks says


It's not a very good beer in my opinion. Not terrible, but there's a lot of superior beers. No loss.


The loss is the brewing style if no one else has picked it up. I'll pick some up next time I'm out, should try it at least once.
300   richwicks   2023 Jul 12, 7:31pm  

NuttBoxer says


richwicks says


It's not a very good beer in my opinion. Not terrible, but there's a lot of superior beers. No loss.


The loss is the brewing style if no one else has picked it up. I'll pick some up next time I'm out, should try it at least once.



One of the most incredible beers I ever had was Hakim Stout - it was produced in Ethopia, and was SMUGGLED into the United States. They had some sort of agreement with Guinness not to export - eventually they went out of business. Another incredible beer I had was brewed with tea - it was delicious, but THEY went out of business as well. I don't recall the name. I used to drink Cafrees which is no longer produced, it's a very light pilsner that is carbonated with NO2, instead of CO2 - so it has the same mouth feel as Guinness.

Try the random bullshit - sometimes you regret it, sometimes you are amazed at how excellent it is.

It's like food - never go to a national chain, go to a hole in the wall mom and pop shop and try it. Sometimes it's not that great, but sometimes it's incredible.

Taco Bell is no competition for any little mom and pop shops in my area. I'm amazed it exists at all yet television makes it exist. It's like pizza, a nice little place called Vito's Famous Pizza went under:

https://goo.gl/maps/bKmRUhYJgkocdMp76

But Round Table, Mountain Mikes, and Caesar's still exist. They are just as expensive and far lower quality. They are "ok", but for the same price you can get something much better. I hate television - anything advertised on it, you should seriously boycott.
301   Patrick   2023 Jul 24, 8:09am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/zlochevskys-dog-saturday-july-22


Finally, yesterday Governor DeSantis announced that the State of Florida, which is a significant investor in beer giant Anheuser-Busch, will now investigate the woke corporation for mismanagement that breached the company’s duties to shareholders and injured the state’s investment portfolio.




Budweiser’s “going broke” phase may have only just begun.
302   Tenpoundbass   2023 Jul 24, 8:51am  

I am convinced that InBev corporate execs initiated the move.. .
I can see the board meeting playing out like a Corporation version of the Producers .

We need a marketing campaign so hideous people will swear off Bud Light. Sir I think we have the idea Woke Nut Job idiot, hear me out sir....

That's Perfect! And I love the Can, how can this fail?

I mean think about it, you have all of these brands you own under your portfolio of beers. .All of these other brands all have production and marketing cost.
Then you've got this other beer brand, that 90% of the beers drank in bars and sporting events in America is Bud Light..
You would want to sabotage that one brand to give the other brands a better chance. Even if it means the eventual shuttering of that brand.
They like to say Modello is now the beer of choice, but that's not what I'm seeing at all. What I'm finding now, is people are drinking the whole beer spectrum from the cooler. There isn't any one supreme beer. It used to be when you went somewhere people were drinking beer, most every bottle on the table, bar, and counter was a Bud Light bottle. It would have been hard to sneak in some other brand, because the bar staff would know they didn't sell anything but Bud Light through out the night. Now you look across the room, you see Heineken, Stela Atios, Natural Light, Yuengling and just on and on. I don't ever remember ever being in a bar, and there not being a prevailing beer..
While it is hurting their stock price, I bet their operation costs and the ret\urns on those other brands, are record breaking sales.

Most people have limited their protest to the Budweiser Brand excusivly and mostly Bud Light particularly. A lot of folks are still drinking InBev brands, but a lot of other brands as well..

I think when the Bud Light dust up settles, InBev will be a stronger company for it, when their other brands are carrying their own weight.
304   Patrick   2023 Sep 8, 12:41pm  

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/money/business/2023/06/28/who-owns-modelo-mexican-lager-beats-bud-light-as-americas-top-beer/70342506007/


After more than two decades as America’s best-selling beer, Bud Light has slipped into second place.

Modelo Especial, a Mexican lager, overtook Bud Light in U.S. retail dollar sales in the month ending June 3, according to Nielsen data analyzed by Bump Williams Consulting. Modelo controlled 8.4% of U.S. grocery, convenience and liquor store sales; Bud Light fell to 7.3%.

Grupo Modelo, the Mexican brewer, is owned by Anheuser-Busch InBev, the same parent company of Bud Light.


Not much of a success if the same people are getting the money.
305   EBGuy   2023 Sep 8, 1:09pm  

Patrick says

Not much of a success if the same people are getting the money.

NOT true. The reporting is literally wrong as US distribution rights belong to Constellation Brands.
See my post
https://patrick.net/post/1379183/2023-04-27-1-for-a-bud-light-12-pack?start=96#comment-1959589
Constellation Brands owns the brewery in Mexico and imports to the US.
The transaction establishes Crown as a fully owned entity of Constellation, and provides Constellation with independent brewing operations, Modelo's full profit stream from all U.S. sales, and rights in perpetuity to the Grupo Modelo brands distributed by Crown in the U.S.
306   NuttBoxer   2023 Sep 8, 1:28pm  

You never addressed my reply and explained why a company who lost a suit is still advertising the beer on their website. Apparently ABinBev just loves to freely promote products from which they derive zero income..? I think not.
307   EBGuy   2023 Sep 8, 1:53pm  

AB InBev owns Grupo Modelo and has distribution rights everywhere -- except the United States. The Justice Department literally forced AB InBev to sell the Piedras Negras Brewery. To the extent that Constellation is successful with the Modelo Brands in the United States, it does helpsAB InBev with their worldwide Modelo brand. All (?) articles posted have referred to US sales, which are the domain of Constellation.

Justice Department Reaches Settlement with Anheuser-Busch InBev and Grupo Modelo in Beer Case
Friday, April 19, 2013
Office of Public Affairs
Divestitures of Piedras Negras Brewery, Perpetual Licenses to Modelo Beer Brands, and Other Assets Will Maintain Competition in the Beer Industry Nationwide

WASHINGTON – The Department of Justice announced today that it has reached a settlement with Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV (ABI) and Grupo Modelo S.A.B. de C.V. that requires the companies to divest Modelo’s entire U.S. business – including licenses of Modelo brand beers, its most advanced brewery, Piedras Negras, its interest in Crown Imports LLC and other assets – to Constellation Brands Inc., in order to go forward with their merger. The department said the proposed settlement will maintain competition in the beer industry nationwide, benefitting consumers.
Today’s proposed settlement was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. If approved by the court, the settlement will resolve the department’s competitive concerns.
On Jan. 31, 2013, the department filed an antitrust lawsuit against ABI and Modelo alleging that ABI’s $20.1 billion acquisition of the remaining interest in Modelo that ABI did not already own, as originally proposed, would substantially lessen competition in the market for beer in the United States as a whole and in at least 26 metropolitan areas across the United States. The department alleged that the transaction would result in consumers paying more for beer and would limit innovation in the beer market.
309   zzyzzx   2023 Sep 22, 10:55am  

Patrick says






At this point they are probably better off going full retard!
310   NuttBoxer   2023 Sep 22, 11:32am  

EBGuy says

On Jan. 31, 2013, the department filed an antitrust lawsuit against ABI and Modelo alleging that ABI’s $20.1 billion acquisition of the remaining interest in Modelo that ABI did not already own, as originally proposed, would substantially lessen competition in the market for beer in the United States as a whole and in at least 26 metropolitan areas across the United States. The department alleged that the transaction would result in consumers paying more for beer and would limit innovation in the beer market.


I stand corrected. But I think you'll understand if I'm skeptical of government who's breakup of Standard Oil significantly increased Rockefeller's wealth while divesting him of a toxic brand.
If people pay more for piss-beer I think that's there decision. The market share of micro-brews has steadily increased over the years, so this ruling is incredibly naive, unless, like with Standard, there are other reasons...

BTW, can you guess who the top shareholder is at Constellation? See my recent Blackrock comment(but it's not them)..
311   zzyzzx   2023 Dec 8, 11:33am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anti-woke-beer-company-rivals-191411931.html

Anti-Woke Beer Company Rivals Bud Light Launching 'Real Women' Calendar Designed To 'Serve As A Reminder: Men Can Never Replace The Beautiful Women Of America'

Georgia entrepreneur Seth Weathers’s response to the campaign is both bold and reflective of a growing sentiment among some consumers. His "woke-free" beer company Ultra Right is launching a Real Women of America 2024 calendar. It is more than a product; it’s a statement.
315   WookieMan   2023 Dec 29, 2:23pm  

richwicks says

There are lots of fine beers, just pick something up at random and find out.

Old comment. Try beers out. Find the one you like. I picked mine and have never been hung over after a long night. Staying consistent with one product does you well instead of jumping around. We used to save and cut out the side of the 6 pack of bottles and hang it to the wall. My former buddy (leftie) still has them. 600+ beers I've tried. Still will try new stuff occasionally. I prefer what I know. The trial days are over for me.
316   Patrick   2024 Feb 8, 10:23am  

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/trump-endorses-bud-light-names-dylan-mulvaney-as-running-mate



Trump deserves this for supporting that degenerate company after their betrayal of their customers.
318   NuttBoxer   2024 Feb 11, 8:59am  

I think Trump's right. Boycott's end at some point. I'm not boycotting Bud Light, just like I'm not boycotting Netflix. I'm never going to buy this beer or subscribe to that service ever again.
319   socal2   2024 Feb 11, 9:38am  

NuttBoxer says

I think Trump's right. Boycott's end at some point. I'm not boycotting Bud Light, just like I'm not boycotting Netflix. I'm never going to buy this beer or subscribe to that service ever again.


Yet Trump is choosing right now, right before the election to forgive and essentially embrace the tranny issue? Even using Bruce??? Has Bud Light actually come out and apologized, or are they just throwing money around buying politicians?

With leadership like this at the very top of the Republican ticket - we wonder why our military, schools and government institutions are a fucking mess full of degenerates and DEI racists.
320   WookieMan   2024 Feb 11, 9:38am  

NuttBoxer says

I think Trump's right. Boycott's end at some point. I'm not boycotting Bud Light, just like I'm not boycotting Netflix. I'm never going to buy this beer or subscribe to that service ever again.

Thing is no one cares. Bud can just make less product at the same margins and fire people or lay them off. And if you didn't drink it in the the first place who cares? By giving it attention at all, you give them business.

I never have, but I'd go to a drag show to laugh at the mentally disabled people. It is funny. Trans people are mentally disabled and they don't know it. That's like compounding interest on stupidity. Makes me laugh. I'm confident enough in myself to know what I'm going to. It's retards putting on comedy. Have some beers/drinks and laugh at them... not with them.
325   richwicks   2024 Feb 25, 3:43pm  

WookieMan says


Thing is no one cares. Bud can just make less product at the same margins and fire people or lay them off. And if you didn't drink it in the the first place who cares


There isn't really a boycott on Bud Light anymore.

It's a terrible beer, and nearly any beer at the same price, is a superior drink. Once people found another beer for about the same price, they won't return. Budweiser spent an enormous amount of money on advertising, that's all the product is. If you spend a lot of money on advertisement, you're not spending money on the product itself.

There is no difference between Budweiser, Miller, Coors, Busch, Old Milwaukee, Michelob, Pabst, Genesee (well, actually, they actually do make a few good beers), or Stroh's. Those beers are the same price if not less expensive than BudLight. As soon as "Bud drinkers" they tried something else, they had no reason to return.

If you want a beer that you can drink, that will not intoxicate you (much) like Bud Light, try "Natural Light". I'm not saying it's a good beer, but it's cheap, and just as bad a Budweiser. It's hardly sold on the West Coast, but it's common on the East Coast.

Nobody drinks Bud Light because it was the best beer available at that price. They did it because they are drones that watch commercials. Once it was associated with Dylan Mulvaney, the commercials didn't matter. Their customers are entirely superficial and buy what they see on the propaganda box until the propaganda box offends them. They will never return.
326   WookieMan   2024 Feb 26, 2:35am  

richwicks says

Nobody drinks Bud Light because it was the best beer available at that price. They did it because they are drones that watch commercials. Once it was associated with Dylan Mulvaney, the commercials didn't matter. Their customers are entirely superficial and buy what they see on the propaganda box until the propaganda box offends them. They will never return.

Nope. It was the restaurant industry. Sure they advertised. They also made sure their product was on tap at EVERY major chain bar in the country. The margins on Bud Light at bars is insane. They mark down the price of the keg to get it in there and they still churn a profit. The ads are only to get people to buy the grocery store cooler cases. The restaurants are the real ad. Guess what? Bud Light is still in restaurants.

I don't drink it. But I am a light beer drinker as I don't want to get MC Hammered. IPA's and other heavy beers trash me. Wine for special occasions. And Prosecco on Sundays with a little pineapple or orange juice splash. Hard liquor is what kills alcoholics. I avoid it outside of 2-3 shots a year if even that. No mixed drinks. I don't know what I'm drinking with that shit. I don't trust bartenders outside of handing me a canned beer or a draft. Mimosa is fine as I know what I'm getting into with that.

Bud Light is not going away. I can get a pint at EVERY bar in my area/region still. They'd dump it if they weren't selling it. Bars are maybe 15-20% margins if you're doing well. A keg sitting there is lost inventory if it's not selling. Bud Light is still selling.
327   richwicks   2024 Feb 26, 4:19am  

WookieMan says

Bud Light is not going away. I can get a pint at EVERY bar in my area/region still. They'd dump it if they weren't selling it. Bars are maybe 15-20% margins if you're doing well. A keg sitting there is lost inventory if it's not selling. Bud Light is still selling.


I'm sure it's still selling, I'm saying people have drastically cut back on purchases at grocery stores.

If I get a beer at dinner, I don't think I'd get that. Last time I went out (months ago) I had two pints of probably a Samuel Adams type of beer. I've lost my enjoyment of beer actually when I think about it.
328   WookieMan   2024 Feb 26, 6:30am  

richwicks says

I'm sure it's still selling, I'm saying people have drastically cut back on purchases at grocery stores.

If I get a beer at dinner, I don't think I'd get that. Last time I went out (months ago) I had two pints of probably a Samuel Adams type of beer. I've lost my enjoyment of beer actually when I think about it.

I'm sure the outrage cut sales for sure. Not disagreeing. Every chain restaurant has it though for the most part. It's Miller, Bud and Coors unless it's a brewpub type place. Coors Light is the worst beer ever made is all I'll say on the three. Bud Light is manageable, not good.

I have bigger issues with food over booze. We need smaller portions. I'm not a leftover guy and I'm not engorging myself with food just because it cost money. I usually eat half an entree at most establishments. They ask if I want a box and I say no. Then the server seemingly gets slightly offended that I didn't like the food. Nope buddy or gal, I didn't want that fucking much of it. My goal isn't to be a land whale fat guy.
329   NuttBoxer   2024 Feb 26, 6:46am  

Every place I go it's either been sitting forever, or in the case of bars, the handle is always covered with a cup(empty and not being refilled). There are certain types I could see who would still buy it, and certain bars. Saying you see it sold and drank everywhere you go says more about who you associate with than the beers popularity.
330   WookieMan   2024 Feb 26, 7:02am  

NuttBoxer says

Saying you see it sold and drank everywhere you go says more about who you associate with than the beers popularity.

Lo fucking L. I drive SxS's through corn fields to get to the fucking bar. You're out of your element Nutt. Country/rural people just don't give a fuck. We have fun. You live in the Southwest and don't have a clue about how we live here in modern time. I know you lived in Michigan, but things have changed bigly in the midwest. No one actually cares. This is purely a CA and East coast thing.

Y'all live on a different planet. And I've been to everyones state and city/town that have mentioned it here. I know what I know. Not really a dispute. Bud Light is drank everywhere. I don't drink it. But this idea some "boycott" made a different is bull shit.
331   zzyzzx   2024 Feb 26, 9:48am  

WookieMan says

I'm sure the outrage cut sales for sure. Not disagreeing. Every chain restaurant has it though for the most part. It's Miller, Bud and Coors unless it's a brewpub type place. Coors Light is the worst beer ever made is all I'll say on the three. Bud Light is manageable, not good.


No Yuengling? Yuengling is everywhere here. I'm pretty sure that Yuengling is available outside the Northeast now that it has a brewery in Tampa.
332   WookieMan   2024 Feb 26, 10:45am  

zzyzzx says

WookieMan says


I'm sure the outrage cut sales for sure. Not disagreeing. Every chain restaurant has it though for the most part. It's Miller, Bud and Coors unless it's a brewpub type place. Coors Light is the worst beer ever made is all I'll say on the three. Bud Light is manageable, not good.


No Yuengling? Yuengling is everywhere here. I'm pretty sure that Yuengling is available outside the Northeast now that it has a brewery in Tampa.

Nope. I've had it before, but it is not in these parts. Even Chicago. At least that I've ever seen. Definitely not by me.

It's like Spotted Cow with Wisconsin. They'll only sell it in Wisconsin. Kind of dumb, though I don't know the rules for shipping alcohol across borders and the expense involved. Not a bad beer, but they legit only sell it in Wisconsin. Anyone I know that drives east will bring back a case of Yuengling most the time.

I don't mind it, but I cannot switch beers. Not that I drink enough to be hung over, but when I've had too much of a different beer I feel like shit. Where I can drink Busch Light all day and wake up at 4am and workout and not feel like I drank. I call it beer water. I tend to not change things once I find out what's working for me. I'm not the bastion of health with any consumption. But not fat and am athletic. Think John Daly the golfer but not fat, I quit smoking 7 years ago roughly and I don't drink diet coke. Maybe the occasional Coke once a month. I do drink more than average. Docs don't take issue with my recent tests. CT, MRI, EEG and bloodwork.

I think I'm a freak if I'm being honest. If I'm at an event I can promise pretty much everyone on this forum would be puking if they tried to keep pace with me. I don't drink like that daily. Usually just a few night cap beers. But socially it's different. I have probably 20 coolers. Different sizes for the occasion. My favorite is the laptop looking one that only fits 8 beers. Keeps me in line. When I bust out the backpack cooler you're in trouble. Or the monster cooler that takes two people to get out of the car.
333   NuttBoxer   2024 Feb 26, 11:51am  

WookieMan says

Lo fucking L. I drive SxS's through corn fields to get to the fucking bar.


As long as you're not driving backwards...

I guess you think Yuma is the city? Everyone here has a truck, mostly so they can tow their RV's and toys out to the desert. Although it's common to see them on the road this side of town. We only have like 10 radio stations, and majority are country or ranchero. Oh yeah, and this time of year we have LOTS of people from the midwest. Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, Dakotas, Indiana, Kansas, and all across Canada. Big Lesbian is rarely served, ordered, or drunk. My family still lives in Michigan and Iowa. In fact, in the West side of the state, you'd do well to steer clear of that queer beer. People aren't too supportive of gays out there.

I haven't lived in the city in four years, and I remember guys laughing at this dude who did buy a BL after work one day. Not in a mean way, but we knew why, and he took it well. Mexican's and white mountain folk if your wondering.
334   NuttBoxer   2024 Feb 26, 11:52am  

zzyzzx says

No Yuengling? Yuengling is everywhere here. I'm pretty sure that Yuengling is available outside the Northeast now that it has a brewery in Tampa.


You can find it all over. Never looked for it before my cousin from Florida mentioned it.
335   WookieMan   2024 Feb 26, 1:37pm  

NuttBoxer says

As long as you're not driving backwards...

I guess you think Yuma is the city?

I've been to Yuma and the Southwest extensively. Driving dunes is not what we do. We drink and drive through fields of our neighbors that own 80% of the land in our area. My kids and my family are friends with probably the biggest farmer in the region. We're talking 8k acres plus. Family owned. Not corporate.

Michigan is not remotely anything like where I live. Know plenty of that state. Iowa doesn't care either. That's just your family. Again, I don't drink it. No one really cares in the Midwest. We're not gay. It's the gays that get the most offended by Bud Light. We just drink beer if we like it. I don't. I'm a Busch Light guy and it's available everywhere. No trans with that brand even though under the same umbrella corp.
336   zzyzzx   2024 Mar 14, 8:29am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/altria-plans-sell-35-million-202956169.html

Altria Group Inc. raised about $2.4 billion from the sale of Anheuser-Busch InBev SA shares, to help fund its own share repurchases.

AB InBev’s US shares were down 5% to $61.31 each as of 10:46 a.m. in New York, their largest decline in nearly two years. Altria shares rose nearly 1% to $43.72 each, the highest since September.
337   richwicks   2024 Mar 14, 8:36am  

WookieMan says

I have bigger issues with food over booze. We need smaller portions.


I feel the same way. The last time I bought a burrito I was nearly sick from how large it was.

I was in France 20 years ago, and although I only spent a week there on work assignment, I just started to drop weight. I think we have another problem, I think our food supply is literally poisoned. I find it's very easy to drop weight if I simply eat only at home.
338   richwicks   2024 Mar 14, 8:44am  

WookieMan says

But this idea some "boycott" made a different is bull shit.


Oh please.

People aren't doing an active boycott, what's happening is that it's now associated with a freak that has been grooming children. If somebody is at a bar and orders a Bud Light, people look at them sideways and their friends make fun of them.

Nobody is going to remember who Dylan Mulvaney is in less than a year - just like nobody knows who Zoe Quinn is, or Anita Sarkessian, or Suey Park, or Emma Sulkowicz - but that doesn't matter. Bud Lite is now associated with "fags" and even homosexual men don't like queeny homosexuals.

Previously Bud Lite was the "fuck you egghead" or "I don't need that gay ass hoity toity craft beer" beer. The entire product was built around an image, and now it's associated with this:



It's never going to recover from that. It's not going to hurt their other brands, just that brand. Bud Lite is going to be for a long time associated with that.

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