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Was Yevgeny Prigozhin just murdered?


               
2023 Aug 23, 12:44pm   9,017 views  85 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/was-yevgeny-prigozhin-just-murdered


NY Times reports:

Russian media are reporting that the plane that crashed on Wednesday north of Moscow was an Embraer Legacy 600 business jet with the tail number RA-02795. Past news reports have linked the plane to Mr. Prigozhin and Wagner.

Readovka, an account on the Telegram app that is known to be close to the Russian authorities, said that reports of Mr. Prigozhin’s death were “premature,” and that “Yevgeny Prigozhin may have been on a different airplane.”

There have been persistent rumors that US intelligence paid Prigozhin $1-4 Billion to mount an insurrection against Putin with his semi-mercenary army. And that Prigozhin pretended to do so, then openly flipped.

If true, the likeliest explanation for this crash would be CIA payback. At the same time, Prigozhin may not have traveled under his own name.

Is it just me, or has the CIA forgotten its old mantra of plausible deniability? The agency’s brazenness seems to be matched only by its stupidity and its evil intent.




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72   Ceffer   2023 Aug 29, 12:00pm  

AmericanKulak says


Is the Pope a Jesuit?

Worse. An Argentinian Nazi Jesuit.
74   Eric_Holder   2023 Aug 30, 11:33am  

Ceffer says

AmericanKulak says



Is the Pope a Jesuit?

Worse. An Argentinian Nazi Jesuit.


Argentinian pedo Nazi Jesuit.
75   Ceffer   2023 Aug 30, 3:57pm  

Argentinian genocidal pedo Nazi Jesuit. Apparently, he had a slaughter or two under his belt in Argentina to whet his appetite for the holy robes.
77   RWSGFY   2023 Sep 4, 3:35pm  

Ceffer says

Argentinian genocidal pedo Nazi Jesuit.


Explains his fondness for the Soviet genocidal pedo Commie KGB fuck. Birds of feather and all that.
78   richwicks   2023 Sep 4, 3:54pm  

RWSGFY says

Ceffer says


Argentinian genocidal pedo Nazi Jesuit.


Explains his fondness for the Soviet genocidal pedo Commie KGB fuck. Birds of feather and all that.


You always produce non-sequiturs to such a point, it's not even worth pointing out.

Who else, besides me, and see the error of logic and reasoning in your statement? I get tired of people who pretend not to know.
79   Patrick   2023 Sep 7, 12:22pm  

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/why-putin-killed-prigozhin?r=6gdz


Russian President Vladimir Putin acknowledged in late June that the Kremlin had paid Prigozhin’s army, many recruited from the country’s prisons, nearly $1 billion dollars between May of 2022 and May of 2023. I have reported in previous columns that the rebellion Prigozhin launched in June was far from the threat to Putin's standing that the Western media consistently reported it to be. It was instead a historically Russian way of sidelining an often troublesome mercenary leader.

Prigozhin and his reduced Wagner force were left in limbo after the aborted revolt, and many Wagner members were absorbed into the Russian military. Putin arranged for Prigozhin and what was left of his mercenary force to be driven into exile in Belarus.

But Prigozhin did not stop there. By early August there were reports of border tensions as the remnant of the Wagner Group made a series of intrusions into the airspace of Poland, and troublesome threats at the borders of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland. For Putin, triggering complaints from NATO countries was an unforgivable breach. “That was it,” a knowledgeable US intelligence official told me.
80   richwicks   2023 Sep 8, 1:07am  

I want to claim a win here on the prediction's thread:

richwicks says

I have a prediction on Prigozhin:

He will be murdered in some novel, weird way, and the US security agencies (i.e. "western media") will blame Putin after Putin let him go, and exiled him to Belarus. It will be a while from now, when he's been largely forgotten.


BTW: you should make posts impossible to edit after some number of days, or if they are edited, update the date on the post.
81   WookieMan   2023 Sep 8, 3:24am  

richwicks says

I want to claim a win here on the prediction's thread:

richwicks says


I have a prediction on Prigozhin:

He will be murdered in some novel, weird way, and the US security agencies (i.e. "western media") will blame Putin after Putin let him go, and exiled him to Belarus. It will be a while from now, when he's been largely forgotten.


BTW: you should make posts impossible to edit after some number of days, or if they are edited, update the date on the post.

You "seem" to be right. Not claiming you're wrong at all, but who the hell really knows. I know with flights for FAA there's a passenger manifest or whatever, but not sure how that works in Russia. He could have just been disappeared and not really dead. Nearly impossible for any normal American or even journalist that specializes in Russian news that could find out. Not that I would trust that info either.

I've missed flights before. My understanding is that my name is still linked to that flight potentially since I checked in. Maybe it's modernized enough now where when the ticket is scanned at the gate those are the passengers listed. Prigozhin's flight was private, so it could just be made up I guess is the point. He's clearly gotten a lot of money. It's not hard to make him go away without actually killing him. Hell he could have wanted to do it himself to disappear for other reasons we'll never know. I'd say you were correct though overall. Just hard to prove.
82   RWSGFY   2023 Sep 8, 7:55am  

It was a private jet, not some regular commercial flight. And neither ICAO, nor Embraier are allowed to participate in the investigation. So yeah, all markings of a CIA operation are there.
83   Ceffer   2023 Sep 8, 8:52am  

MI6 did Priggy, or were allowed to do Priggy, IF they did Priggy. LOL!
84   RWSGFY   2023 Sep 8, 9:04am  

Either way Prig is done. He might live the rest of his sorry life as a tranny in Brazil, but Vaginer as a fighting outfit is no more. His taking of Bakhmut was the perfect example of a Pyrrhic victory. How many did he say he lost there? 40K in dead alone? No wonder he snapped.
85   richwicks   2023 Sep 8, 8:18pm  

WookieMan says

You "seem" to be right. Not claiming you're wrong at all, but who the hell really knows.


It's entirely possible he faked his death. My claim was that however he disappeared, it would be novel, and blamed on Putin.

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