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Next one to go under: Liberty Safe gives safe codes to Feds


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2023 Sep 6, 4:59pm   377 views  19 comments

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As Catturd mentioned in another tweet, why does the company have access codes? And of course, did the Feds have the warrant include the safe specifically, as is required? Note the careful legalese. Usually warrants to invade safes must be specified as to that purpose, they are generally understood to be separate from property searches unless specified.

Another example of a company dumping everything to the Feds, when the Feds have a much more limited warrant.

Liberty cannot serve two masters. Don't buy from LEO supply companies, as when it comes between their private individual customers and large government contracts, guess which one they will choose?

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1   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 6, 5:27pm  

What's the over-under that Liberty, like some now-defunct Email Services as well as Social Media, got PAID to provide the codes?

Local Locksmiths can do as good of a job, and very competitively, too.
2   Patrick   2023 Sep 7, 11:40am  

The competition is now using Liberty Safe's betrayal of their customers to good effect:


4   Patrick   2023 Sep 7, 12:49pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/liberty-safes-under-fire-after-giving-fbi-passcode-for-safe-in-january-6th-case


Liberty Safe is under fire after they gave the FBI the passcode for a safe belonging to a friend of the Hodge twins as part of another J6 case meant to punish the enemies of the regime

The so-called "conservative" safe brand, Liberty Safe, seems to have a weird definition of the word "Liberty."

And "safe" for that matter.

Many people have just woken up to the news that Liberty Safe not only has a master passcode to open all of its safes, but will gladly hand that passcode over to the FBI.

Nathan Hughes of Arkansas had his home raided by the FBI and his personal safe broken into because of his presence at the capitol on January 6th, 2021.


6   RWSGFY   2023 Sep 7, 1:57pm  

What would happen if they dodn't provide the codes? I guess the safe would be cut open anyway.

But the right answer is to not have any backdoor codes in the first place. You can't be asked to provide something you don't have.
7   Ceffer   2023 Sep 7, 4:31pm  

Guess it's like crypto currency. There's ALWAYS a back door.
8   RWSGFY   2023 Sep 7, 5:33pm  

Ceffer says

Guess it's like crypto currency. There's ALWAYS a back door.


Not if you change the electronic lock to a mechanical one.
10   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 7, 5:50pm  

RWSGFY says

What would happen if they dodn't provide the codes? I guess the safe would be cut open anyway.

But the right answer is to not have any backdoor codes in the first place. You can't be asked to
provide something you don't have.

Third parties have no obligation to help serve warrants.

But yeah, why does Liberty have backdoor codes in the first place, esp. when they tell customers they're unavailable.

Reason? Just like Google/Facebook, they SELL the data to the Feds when presented with requests. Often they'll do it without a warrant.
11   Patrick   2023 Sep 7, 6:07pm  

RWSGFY says

But the right answer is to not have any backdoor codes in the first place. You can't be asked to provide something you don't have.


I worked a contract job at one company I'd rather not name, where their solution to subpoenas was simply not to keep any log files!
12   iwog2   2023 Sep 7, 6:08pm  

They didn't even sell it. They gave it up for free.
14   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 7, 7:18pm  

Trollhole says

https://www.newsweek.com/liberty-safe-ceo-obama-donations-renew-backlash-1825390

They are your classic RINO grifter organization.

I smell the Black Rifle Coffee
15   Karloff   2023 Sep 7, 7:29pm  

This is the same reason I don't trust crypto that isn't in my control. These so-called "secure" messaging apps are the worst. You must assume they are the ones controlling the keys and are man-in-the-middle for all of your communications.

PGP/GPG for email is the only one I am pretty sure is secure, assuming you know who's keys you are trusting.
16   richwicks   2023 Sep 7, 9:38pm  

Karloff says

This is the same reason I don't trust crypto that isn't in my control. These so-called "secure" messaging apps are the worst. You must assume they are the ones controlling the keys and are man-in-the-middle for all of your communications.


Yeah, people don't get this. All a company has to do is CLAIM end to end encryption - well how do you prove it? They don't prove it.

The second you have a server between the party you're talking to, you have to assume it's compromised, because I know for a FACT WhatsApp IS compromised, by Facebook. I bet Telegram is too, and your phone line 100% is.

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