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NuttBoxer says

Conspiracy researchers go through facts and details before saying something is a lie. Conspiracy theorists just throw shit on the wall. Provide some rationale to justify your statement, or stop throwing shit.

I am not going to waste a SINGLE moment even considering the possibility that was is reported on either the propaganda box, or print legacy media is even worth paying attention to.

You can spend an entire lifetime proving they lie constantly. I am not going to waste any effort trying to convince you they are a completely unreliable source of information. If you cannot see the obvious by now, after 4 years of "Russia hacked our elections", what can I say?

I simply don't care AT ALL what our government, or our propaganda systems said about 9/11. If we had a REAL media, there's plenty of stories of the century to report, but we don't have a real media. We KNOW who did 9/11. It was US, Israeli and Saudi intelligence. We arrested people, caught people, traced the money, unredacted documents. What's the point in doing this? After you're done doing it, nobody will believe you anyhow. You have to unwind all that bullshit in their mind given to them from 20 years of propaganda.

HeadSet says

If a person learns to drive in a Toyota Corolla and is able to back into a driveway, do you think that person can just step into a Kenworth and back the 50-foot trailer into a tight loading dock at Walmart? Just wondering.

Why are you making this comparison?

I can drive any size truck forward, no problem. I might be sloppy at it, I might be dangerous, doesn't matter when I'm just aiming to hit a wall with it, does it?

NuttBoxer says

You're whole take here is a contradiction of itself. You say the media report of the disintegrated plane crash in the field is fake,

No.

I'm saying ignore the media. They fucking lie, and you goddamned know this, and it's been shown to the case BY ME to everybody here, over and and over and over again and I'm fucking tired of having people STILL point to what was reported in our FUCKING PROPAGANDA, as if it's true.

I really don't care what happened to flight 93. Who cares? Our GOVERNMENT DID THIS. Fuck them. Why are you wasting energy on minor details? Our government did a false flag, murdered about 3000 people to start 20 years of fucking war which killed millions and has cost trillions.

RayAmerica says

Again, and this can't be emphasized enough, a maneuver that experienced commercial pilots said could not be done.

For fucks sake ASK ONE. I have. I know you haven't, because I've gotten this answer more than once, and the answer it "yeah, it wouldn't be a problem".

REpro says

To me amazing is that government can sell to people some unbelievable stories, without any proof. Things which are against logic, math, chemistry, physics, people with professional experience and many people just unconditionally believe in that.

They are movies, dependent on unquestioned obedience to the good faith intentions and credibility of the government. That credibility is finally bankrupt, run out and expired. Thus, we can see all of the movies that were always fake.

I remember our good buddy Gary who flogged us with this stuff to his ongoing ridicule and persecution. I told him my position was to table conspiracy theories until I achieved the self education to decide one way or another, which requires time, attention and investigative labor.

Some I won't investigate, like Sandy Hook, just because I don't think that they served their false flag purpose, anyway, so I don't care enough to investigate.

Apparently, the aliens bred us with a subservience gene that masks the psychopathic motives of authority. The dynastic psychopaths know that we have this built in weakness, the bedazzlement of the pomp and righteousness of authority with their fancy suits, costumes and rituals, and this weakness produces their solemn craving for that focus of power that makes the sheep self destructive in their loyalties.

We are now experiencing their entirely unmasked hatred and contempt for the populations, whereas earlier, they were fearful of revealing their true motives.

HeadSet says

Absolutely false. My buddies flying B-52s used to fly much lower than 500 ft for hours at a time on practice missions. I also personally flew a KC-135 at about 500 ft AGL over Norway for about 100 miles during a route from England to Bodo so we could check out the scenery (ATC cleared us for that since there was virtually no traffic in that area). Another neat trick often done is to fly the plane down the 2 mile long runway while keeping the wheels about 20 ft above the pavement. In this case, being that close to the ground actually increases lift, through something known a "ground effect."

I would imagine Late Cold War pilots, say F-111 pilots, trained by flying Nap of the Earth for hours at a time, as they would have to in the Classic WW3 scenario.