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Shaman says

It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”

This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

Where is the evidence that the majority of Ukrainians want their government and military disbanded and to accept living under Russian occupation?

socal2 says

This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?

Onvacation says

socal2 says

This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?

FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system. There were loads of patriotic US volunteers after Pearl Harbor, but we still needed a draft.

Besides, if Russia is so successful in their invasion, why are they having to call up mobilizations and pathetically use criminals like Wagner to go next door and get killed?

socal2 says

FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system.

Drag them off the corner give them a rifle and send them into Russian mine fields is conscription?

Ukey Bullshit Counter-offensive Paid By You And Me.

We were promised that they would be at the Sea of Azov MONTHS ago.