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NuttBoxer says

If I thought I might be supporting governments who bomb hospitals, I'd double and triple check my facts to make sure that's not the case, as it would be abhorrently evil. If you haven't done that, what does it say about you as a person?

It's funny how people line up to chose sides like it's a football game, and not a bunch of people murdering one another.

This really is a religious issue, and people can't seem to be detached and rational when discussing it.

There were FOUR hospitals bombed, not just one.

Shifa hospital in Gaza City
Hala al-Shawa clinic
the Indonesian hospital in the northern Gaza Strip
the Beit Hanoun hospital

there's no way to know what is going on. Our media is shit, and it's biased. There is a full fledged propaganda campaign on to "win hearts and minds", for a conflict that we have nothing to do with.

Soo, NB says that a JDAM bomb was detonated above the ground and this supposedly explains the lack of crater. How would he explain all these solar panels propped up on flimsy flsupoorts still standing on the roof? Shouldn't the shock wave and flak from an aerial explosion of at least 500 lbs of military-grade explosives blow them away? I mean, it was strong enough to kill EIGHT HUNDRED PEOPLE right? And what's with the AC units also seemingly intact hanging on the wall? How come an areal explosion of such a giant bomb spared these tin boxes? And what's with the glass globe on the lammpost right next to the burned cars? How did that survive an aerial explosion of 500 lbs bomb basically right next to it? Where does one explode a 500 lbs bomb in such a manner that 500-800 people killed on the ground w/o a crater but a glass globe 15 feet above ground and in less than 30 ft from the supposed epicentre stays intact?

RWSGFY says

Soo, NB says that a JDAM bomb was detonated above the ground and this supposedly explains the lack of crater. How would he explain all these solar panels propped up on flimsy flsupoorts still standing on the roof? Shouldn't the shock wave and flak from an aerial explosion of at least 500 lbs of military-grade explosives blow them away? I mean, it was strong enough to kill EIGHT HUNDRED PEOPLE right?

The number if people is certainly incorrect. We don't know who the source of this information was from either.

It COULD be that Hamas claimed that 800 people died, but that would be stupid, because it would be discredited. It's POSSIBLE they are this stupid.

It's ALSO possible that Israel fed this false information to the media, to discredit Hamas by claiming they were the source of the information.

It's hard to tell because our media lies to us so often. It's possible OUR media just made up the number, knowing it would be discredited. Who knows?

Whenever a war is going on it's just an endless string of lie after lie. Remember when Putin had cancer? Remember the Ghost of Kiev? The battle of Snake Island? That stupid "pilot" interview with Anderson Cooper and "Juice". It's all just endless nonsense. We get this with every war. The Douma Chemical attack never happened, the Ghouta Chemical attack PROBABLY was done by "the moderate rebels", but maybe Assad is that stupid, to kill a bunch of people that invited a US response. Qaddafi wasn't handing out Viagra to his men to rape women. BinLaden wasn't working with Saddam Hussein to do 9/11, Hussein wasn't sending letters filled with anthrax to lawmakers and "news" journalists.

MONTHS later we will find out what happened, when it no longer matters at all. I think Israel very well might drive out 100's of thousands, even a million people out of Gaza, or just murder them. SUPPOSEDLY they've dropped 6,000 bombs but who knows?

Just let them fight it out themselves, US needs to stop all aid to middle east. Isreal could not exist without US, they are a parasite. I feel bad for the innocent on both sides but this is not our problem, just like Ukraine all we are doing is making things worse.

RC2006 says

Just let them fight it out themselves, US needs to stop all aid to middle east. Isreal could not exist without US, they are a parasite. I feel bad for the innocent on both sides but this is not our problem, just like Ukraine all we are doing is making things worse.

Israel existed for 20 years (1947-1967) without any substantial USG assistance, and US aid is 3% of their Annual Government Budget (not their GDP).

I understand not wanting to fund other countries, but it's a Catboi Kisser's fantasy that Israel would disappear without US Aid.

RWSGFY says

Soo, NB says that a JDAM bomb was detonated above the ground and this supposedly explains the lack of crater.

I'm just repeating what our military says in their link. The strongest evidence IDF did this comes directly from Israeli government sources. I'm not the one saying you're wrong, American and Israeli military are the ones poking the biggest holes in your zero research opinions. I'm just the messenger.

Next you'll say there was no fire in Maui because look at that blue shit that didn't burn!

So at this point, Netan-Snow has bombed the hospital, but there's no Mocking Jay shooting down his planes. And a lot of people on this forum, and in the US are sounding a like District One Peace Keepers.

The real tragedy is, the more people that condemn this terrorist act, the faster this war ends. Buying into the lies just guarantees more terrorism.

RWSGFY says

Soo, NB says that a JDAM bom

It was a neutron bomb that Mossad killed JFK to steal.

AmericanKulak says

Israel existed for 20 years (1947-1967) without any substantial USG assistance, and US aid is 3% of their Annual Government Budget (not their GDP).

If Israel doesn't need the money, then stop giving it to them and 1/2 the bitching about the country will GO AWAY.

Win win for a lot of people.

Yeah, there's shitty countries in shitty situations, I just don't want to have ANY involvement with them. Shit, we can send 100 billion dollars to some stupid fucking war, and spend 2-4 billion dollars for "aid" to a nuclear armed country, BUT we can't do fuck for anybody in East Palestine Ohio, and there's still around 2000 people missing or dead in Maui - but the survivors got $700 each, as a ONE TIME DEAL.

Fuck this bullshit.

NuttBoxer says

The real tragedy is, the more people that condemn this terrorist act, the faster this war ends. Buying into the lies just guarantees more terrorism.

I doubt anything will stop this war. Israel has long wanted an excuse to kick the shit out of Gaza again, and now they have it. Israel just ignores the rest of the world and does whatever the fuck they want, in the same way the US government just ignores the country, and does whatever the fuck they want.

So there is a crater after all:



So much for the theory of an aerial explosion...

Would any Pro-Israeli on this forum watch this and provide their counter please?

https://youtu.be/UUxWw0dMkNs?si=GGDdS5fYshWQMTaW

richwicks says

I doubt anything will stop this war. Israel has long wanted an excuse to kick the shit out of Gaza again, and now they have it. Israel just ignores the rest of the world and does whatever the fuck they want, in the same way the US government just ignores the country, and does whatever the fuck they want.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_the_Gaza_Strip

this is a major factor in the geopolitical background

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ad says

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_the_Gaza_Strip

this is a major factor in the geopolitical background

Could be, but I doubt this is the major factor. Israel just wants to expand and wants to be rid of the Palestinians entirely.

richwicks says

Could be, but I doubt this is the major factor. Israel just wants to expand and wants to be rid of the Palestinians entirely.

The feud has been going on for at least 100 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots

With European pogroms going back 150 years, it just increased the rate of Aliyah.

Look at the demographics as I saw one stat that said 75% of the Gaza population is below the age of 25. So Israel views all of them as Enemy At the Gates, and wants to eliminate that threat ?

The Uniside.

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/55276

What is he trying to do, hurt Moloch's feelings? Guess they aren't all buying the narrative.

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/55276

KMaf Nazis gonna be KMaf Nazis. Are the same ones that helped harvest them in burnt offering in Europe getting ready to harvest them in burnt offering again? The old school false flags and pumping of opposing emotions ain't what it used to be, eh, Moloch?

https://t.me/qthestormrider777/17867

RWSGFY says

So there is a crater after all:

That's your evidence!? I could make that with my shoe. Seems like you enjoy supporting war-mongering, but don't want to face the realities of the atrocities it entails. Your denial is looking really pathetic at this point.

Ceffer says

What is he trying to do, hurt Moloch's feelings? Guess they aren't all buying the narrative.

Netanyahu keeps getting more unpopular by the day. I think this false flag is having the opposite effect he intended, and will be the final straw that unseats him.

NuttBoxer says

Ceffer says

What is he trying to do, hurt Moloch's feelings? Guess they aren't all buying the narrative.

Netanyahu keeps getting more unpopular by the day. I think this false flag is having the opposite effect he intended, and will be the final straw that unseats him.

Who replaces him ? Naftali Bennett ?

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NuttBoxer says

That's your evidence!? I could make that with my shoe. Seems like you enjoy supporting war-mongering, but don't want to face the realities of the atrocities it entails. Your denial is looking really pathetic at this point.

Dude - nothing is making you look dumber than still trying to push Hamas' ludicrous claims on the hospital.

Even the EU (no friend of Israel) is saying it wasn't an Israeli strike.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231020-gaza-hospital-blast-was-caused-by-misfired-rocket-says-european-military-source

socal2 says

NuttBoxer says

That's your evidence!? I could make that with my shoe. Seems like you enjoy supporting war-mongering, but don't want to face the realities of the atrocities it entails. Your denial is looking really pathetic at this point.

Dude - nothing is making you look dumber than still trying to push Hamas' ludicrous claims on the hospital.

Even the EU (no friend of Israel) is saying it wasn't an Israeli strike.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231020-gaza-hospital-blast-was-caused-by-misfired-rocket-says-european-military-source

IT WAS A TINY 10LBS ISRAELI JDAM BOMB CUSTOMIZED WITH A FUEL TANK TO MIMIC A HAMAS ROCKET MAKING IT A PERFECT FALSE FLAG OPERATION!!!! BUT THEY COULDN'T FOOL THE SOUND EXPERTS!!!! THE SOUND IS THE DEAD GIVEAWAY!!!!!

PFOOF OF ZIONIST TERRORISM:

How it started:

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1716165850967781887

How it's going:

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1716165963589079513

FUCKING ZIONIST TERRORISTS!!!! PRACTICALLY NAZIS!!!!

I seldom, if ever, recommend anything that airs on PBS. This 1998 production is an exception, with several caveats. First, the documentary begins in 1948 by pretty much covering the exodus from Nazi Germany, and, anti-Semitic Europe. The elephant in the room that is missing is the history of the secular/political movement known as Zionism, which was founded by Theodore Herzl in the latter part of the 19th. Century. Herzl strongly advocated a homeland for the Jews in Palestine. At the turn of the century, Jews made up only 5-6% of the population, with the rest being Muslims, and Christians. By and large, the people of Palestine lived in peace with each other, that is, until Herzl's immigration policies began to be fervently followed. Unknown to most, it was this group of people that introduced terrorism to the region, in particular, employing terrorist tactics against the British after WW I. Almost all of this history is given only a slight mention in this documentary. Having said that, it is definitely worth taking the time to watch, being that it is fairly factual and balanced.

You'll notice that the below in only Part 1, which is over 2 hours long. I believe there are two other parts, all of which is available on Youtube if you are interested.

The 50 Years War Israel and the Arabs Part 1 Documentary

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=50+years+war%3B+Israel+and+Arabs+youtube&t=brave&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZxSoa6AF4e4

Here is the narrative.

"Arab refugee problem" is the labeling for displacing and forcing out Arabs : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

"Zionist political violence" instead of Zionist terrorism ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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socal2 says

Even the EU (no friend of Israel)

HAHAHAHAHA!

What utter bullshit.

Israeli blackmail probably out in full force right now with leaders around the world.

RC2006 says

Israeli blackmail probably out in full force right now with leaders around the world.

Where are all those Epstein tapes, and who has them? LOL

Eric Holder says

IT WAS A TINY 10LBS ISRAELI JDAM BOMB CUSTOMIZED WITH A FUEL TANK TO MIMIC A HAMAS ROCKET MAKING IT A PERFECT FALSE FLAG OPERATION!!!! BUT THEY COULDN'T FOOL THE SOUND EXPERTS!!!! THE SOUND IS THE DEAD GIVEAWAY!!!!!

My sources are Israeli government, and US military. You have yet to refute them...

Once again, Israeli citizens calling out their own government and IDF over the fiasco on October 7th:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-captive-description-officials-unhappy

Israel government is upset they didn't have time to "prep"(threaten) the lady before she did the interview.

You people siding with the Israeli government and US imperialist agenda keep saying it's about the Israeli's killed that day right? So why do you keep ignoring Israeli citizens saying the government is culpable? I mean they're the ones who matter right? Keeping more of them from dying?

If you haven't taken a HARD look at the government's pushing this war, you are just like Hamas, because you support killing Israeli's. Actually you're worse than Hamas. At least they have reasons like religion, land dispute, attacks on their citizens. All you have is war for the sake of war. Disgusting.

NuttBoxer says

You people siding with the Israeli government

People are siding with Israeli govenment on the idea of ending Hamas as organization. People critisize Israeli govenment for being caught with their pants down in Oct 7. These things are not mutually exclusive.

https://twitter.com/RKOTOfficial/status/1716403925811630189

Ah, that made my day. Pallywood in action.

If there wasn't a shit ton of oil there (middle east) we wouldn't give two shits what goes on. Let them kill each other until there's no one left, then move in. Oh wait . . .

Yes, it's a meme.

But yes, she's been at several pro-Hamas protests

The same two ladies who celebrate Hamas for Pallywood, also appear as "Bereaved widows/mothers" in another.