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NuttBoxer says

To everyone who parrot'ed the bullshit rhetoric that this was ever about hostages:

It's not about the warcrime of taking civilian hostages, it's about eliminating Hamas. You can't make a ceasefire with a group that broke the last one to kill 1200 civilians.

There's no evidence that most of the hostages are even alive anymore, the IRC is absolutely refusing to do their job to check on them.

Also, the "Deal" Hamas is offering is an unconditional surrender by Israel after their 1200 terror attack + 100s of hostages, a release of all their terrorists, and total withdrawal and another ceasefire like they one they just broke October 7th without cause or warning. As they're on the ropes. No. Eliminate Hamas.

Biden is holding back ammo approved by Congress, the same issue with aid the Democrats tried to impeach Trump on, because Biden doesn't want Hamas eliminated.

I would also notice (this isn't aimed at Nutt Boxer), that a guy who claimed for years on this board that he was uninterested in the Conflict and didn't care who won, sure is having a shitfit about one side clearly starting to end it.

AmericanKulak says

It's not about the warcrime of taking civilian hostages, it's about eliminating Hamas. You can't make a ceasefire with a group that broke the last one to kill 1200 civilians.

A bunch of them were killed by the IDF, I've explained the Hannibal Directive before You just ignore it.

Hostages coming forward to the IDF have been killed multiple times. Israel doesn't want them back, they are just an excuse to bomb Gaza. Israel doesn't care about it's citizens any more than the US government cares about their citizens.

Hamas is funded by Israel and has been for years. Yet you only blame Palestinians for them being around. If Israel didn't fund them, there would t have been an October 7th. You are only concerned with Jewish deaths. You don't care about either Muslims of Christians being killed or children being killed.

The Harvard CAPS-Harris survey shared with The Hill showed 80 percent of registered voters said they support Israel more in the war, while 20 percent said they support Hamas more. That is about in line with the poll’s findings from last month, when 79 percent indicated they support Israel more.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4629597-americans-israel-hamas-gaza-student-protests-poll/

And another:


Why I'm simply calling myself an Anti-Communist now.

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

RWSGFY says

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

Where are they saying this? I like how you just magically know stuff and be er back it up.

Qatar-brokered Surrender to Hamas "Ceasefire" Proposal rejected by Israel

Fixed Link:

https://humanevents.com/2024/05/06/breaking-israel-rejects-far-reaching-ceasefire-proposal-agreed-to-by-hamas

Time for the IDF to exterminate Hamas utterly.

And for those who pretended to be all above-it-all and 'not caring' to be deeply disappointed.

We will come first for the Saturday people, and then for the Sunday people. - Muslim Brotherhood Slogan

AmericanKulak says

Time for the IDF to exterminate Hamas utterly.

Israel funded Hamas, they aren't going to destroy it.

This is like the US claiming they're going to destroy ISIS. So low IQ not to know what is going on at this point.

richwicks says

No! For fucking sake I've explained many times exactly what I mean by Zionists

It's a group of Jewish bigot criminals that stole a huge piece of land

I would disagree on this definition. It's the same criteria you use to define any group of bigots or racists. Zionists believe themselves to be superior to all other humans. Now they typically are an extremist sub-set of Jews, but as patnetters have clearly demonstrated, anyone can subscribe to Zionist beliefs, regardless of ethnicity. Just saying a self-hating Zionist is conceivable.

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

Where are they saying this? I like how you just magically know stuff and be er back it up.

Obviously RWSGFY is the real ruler of the Zionist state, as without even bothering to read the Israeli government's own statements, he unilaterally has set terms.

Oh yeah, and those statements, posted right here in this thread. But he definitely didn't refuse to investigate, or READ. He's just the real ruler of Israel.

NuttBoxer says

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

Where are they saying this? I like how you just magically know stuff and be er back it up.

Obviously RWSGFY is the real ruler of the Zionist state, as without even bothering to read the Israeli government's own statements, he unilaterally has set terms.

Oh yeah, and those statements, posted right here in this thread. But he definitely didn't refuse to investigate, or READ. He's just the real ruler of Israel.

That "richwicks" is either trying to be cute or so incompetent, he can't even google a simple news article.

Hamas has indicated it is currently unable to identify and track down 40 Israeli hostages needed for the first phase of a ceasefire deal, according to an Israeli official and a source familiar with the discussions, raising fears that more hostages may be dead than are publicly known.

The framework that has been laid out by negotiators says that during a first six-week pause in the fighting, Hamas should release 40 of the remaining hostages, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men. In exchange, hundreds of Palestinian prisoners would be released from Israeli prisons.

Hamas has told international mediators – which include Qatar and Egypt — it does not have 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release, both sources said. CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.

NuttBoxer says

I would disagree on this definition. It's the same criteria you use to define any group of bigots or racists.

If the KKK was still active and not just a bunch of FBI agents and they were taken over the government, discriminating against anybody that wasn't them, I'd oppose them as well.

How do you describe a racist group, without pointing out they are a racist group. Don't call Jewish "Zionists", it's not code. I know plenty of Jewish people who are NOT Zionists and I worry about their future because of what Israel is doing.

NuttBoxer says

Now they typically are an extremist sub-set of Jews, but as patnetters have clearly demonstrated, anyone can subscribe to Zionist beliefs, regardless of ethnicity. Just saying a self-hating Zionist is conceivable.

Israel pays people to enter forums and promote Israeli propaganda. I have so much experience with them. You can't tell who is legitimately ignorant and brainwashed, and who pretends to be ignorant and is just doing a job to promote death and destruction and conflict. There's two types of Zionists in my opinion, the ignorant that really don't know what is going on, and the evil, that know precisely what is going on. Well, I'm not ignorant and I'm not evil.

NuttBoxer says

Obviously RWSGFY is the real ruler of the Zionist state, as without even bothering to read the Israeli government's own statements, he unilaterally has set terms.

He's just a constant stream of nonsense. I think he's propaganda.

The only reason to write something without backing up what you are saying, is if everybody already knows what you are saying and you're just venting, or you're spreading bullshit, and don't want people to check sources and data.

It's a habit of mine to check sources. The 40 beheaded babies? Took a couple hours for me to find out that was BS, but I heard the same stupid story told for months, our president restarted it. They reason people do atrocity propaganda, is because they are preparing to do a real atrocity. That's why you have to shut it down and sometimes you can have a small effect. Syria isn't in complete ruins, it would be if at least 1/2 the nation wasn't aware that the "Assad is gassing his own people" was a lie.

There is a responsibility in being correct. Look at how much economic damage has been done because a bunch of so-called Climate Scientists have lied about it for so long. You have kids entirely convinced the world is about to end, adopted entirely nihilistic viewpoints on the world, businesses making BS solutions that only make money because the government is dumping money into their "solutions", constant war to scramble for resources. We were energy independent 4 years ago.

Nothing good comes out of a lie.

richwicks says

He's just a constant stream of nonsense. I think he's propaganda.

The only reason to write something without backing up what you are saying, is if everybody already knows what you are saying and you're just venting, or you're spreading bullshit, and don't want people to check sources and data.

Dude, you are the one who's not aware of today's news. Nobody owes you anything. Get yourself informed or not, nobody gives a fuck.

The only question is: what the fuck are you doing in the thread if you don't know basic things about the subject of it? Can you even find Israel on the map or you believe it's somewhere in Antarctica? You are the one who thought North Stream pipeline was in the Black Sea after all.... Probably still do.

Eric Holder says

Dude, you are the one who's not aware of today's news.

News?

News like this?


original link

You don't know what news is. You still think you know where to find it. It's pretty easy for me, give me a source, I'll check the history of the source find out if they intentionally lied in the past, and if they have, I blacklist them. I have blacklisted the ENTIRE corporate media.

The "news" was once claiming 40 babies were brutally beheaded by Hamas. That wasn't true. Didn't stop people like you from repeating the lie for MONTHS. I'm just pointing out that nobody should trust you - I don't.

Eric Holder says

The only question is: what the fuck are you doing in the thread if you don't know basic things about the subject of it?

I do know basic things, like our government and our media lies a lot, a lot.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/gunshot-oklahoma-hospitals-ivermectin-overdose-b1914322.html

See, you just don't care if you're spreading malicious propaganda. I do. Ceffer doesn't care, and finally after showing him to be incorrect, to be reporting incorrect information, bullshit - I just gave up. He'll never stop he delights in spreading bullshit, it's the The Young Turks for Conservatives. He simply doesn't care if he's correct or not. He will be happy to repeat a report that complete bullshit that will cause a panic to anybody that believes it. He's got no problem with that. At one point I thought Ceffer wanted to actually know what is going on, so through a bit of effort and work I explained to him how he could know, that was a COMPLETE of my time. I thought he was sincere, he's not.

I don't think you are different. You couldn't care LESS if you were a small part is starting a genocide. You don't care.

People are calling this a genocide now, just wait. I know Israel very well. I know what the "generous proposal" was at Camp David, I had to find it in LeMonde, the Palestinians couldn't sign that. Why doesn't Israel make public statements on a *.gov site or *.il or whatever? Because if they are lying, they're called out on it. If comments are disabled, they are lying. If the comments are heavily moderated, they're lying. You don't care what it is.

richwicks says

Eric Holder says

Dude, you are the one who's not aware of today's news.

News?

News like this?

Ah, back to your old 2-step: "You claimed something but where's the link? -- Here's the link, you incompentent, search-challenged fuck! -- But I don't like that link! I want a link which says CIA did something and no other link will do!"

Eric Holder says

Ah, back to your old 2-step: "You claimed something but where's the link? -- Here's the link, you incompentent, search-challenged fuck! -- But I don't like that link! I want a link which says CIA did something and no other link will do!"

That my article.

Can you find an error in it? I went through, hyperlinked everything, including the original FSB tapped audio call between Geoffrey Pyatt and Victoria Nuland, looked up all the dates of when it happened, what kind of government they decided on, showed that is indeed the government they got, showed that it led to a civil war by finding a report on the Ukraine Civil War.

Is there anything in there that you find incorrect? Anything?

I'm not posting some fucking shit from some dumb fucking propagandist just CLAIMING this stuff happened. I explained in detail why I know it happened.

Wikipedia has everything in it, plus propaganda, but they don't lie about who staffs the government. I have a link to the BBC transcript, but I have the original video as well, and Victoria Nuland admitted it was an accurate recording, she complimented the FSB on their "tradecraft".

Is there anything incorrect or you suspect is incorrect in that article? You people don't know how to think. Does the BBC lie? Sure as fuck does, but their transcript is accurate, because I checked it by listening to the audio, and that audio was released on YouTube on Feb 4, 2014 before the "revolution". Can that be faked? Nope, especially when Victoria Nuland admitted its authenticity.

First coup plot in all of world history that I know of that was uncovered BEFORE the coup, and published to the public. You don't care. A world first, we could have stopped the coup and put these motherfuckers in jail, because they were caught before it happened. You just pretend not to see.

Eric Holder says

Ah, back to your old 2-step: "You claimed something but where's the link? -- Here's the link, you incompentent, search-challenged fuck! -- But I don't like that link! I want a link which says CIA did something and no other link will do!"

Ignores rebuttals dozens of times, then claims people ignore his PressTV or Adam Greene links.

For example, no matter how many times you show him that Hamas was a Muslim Brotherhood group that Israel did NOT "found" but instead supported as a means of dividing Fakestines from Fatah and PFLP (something that EVERY country does to destabilize their enemies), he goes right back to the "Israel started Hamas" line

That's why he's on ignore.

NuttBoxer says

I would disagree on this definition. It's the same criteria you use to define any group of bigots or racists. Zionists believe themselves to be superior to all other humans. Now they typically are an extremist sub-set of Jews, but as patnetters have clearly demonstrated, anyone can subscribe to Zionist beliefs, regardless of ethnicity. Just saying a self-hating Zionist is conceivable.

There are 4 Levantine Arab states, each one created by a "European Colonialist OMG!".

There is one Jewish state, created by fighting for itself against mutliple countries trying to annex the area when the British left before ajudicating the remaining 1/3 of the area, fully expecting Arabs to win and to divide it amongst themselves.

And the "But muh UN!" people always ignore the fact that Israel's existance was endorsed in the 1940s by a UN General Assembly Vote

"Ordinary Americans are fed up with Zionists"

The "Ordinary Americans":

Hamas in the next few weeks:

AmericanKulak says

There is one Jewish state, created by fighting for itself against mutliple countries trying to annex the area when the British left, fully expecting them to divide it amongst themselves.

Islam is not a monolithic religion. The Palestinians are Sunni, most of the Middle East is Shia. There are Palestinian refugee camps in Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan. The Sunni and Shia are happy to kill one another, and most of the Middle East doesn't care if Israel kills the Palestinians - ever talk to two of them? I have. Both said the other wasn't really Muslim, that the other was evil and I finally told them, they were both stupid and you're being divided in order to steal your resources and subjugate you to the West. That are happy to see the US go in and fuck up a nation of the "other religion".

Part of the Israeli Palestine conflict is simply to inflame tensions. The US always lies, it never negotiates in good faith, they always take Israel's side, the constantly use their veto power to protect Israel.

Do you think the US ALONE is the ONE nation out of over a hundred that is right?

When has the US been right in foreign policy in the Middle East before? Was the US right to go to war with Syria? Iraq? Is it right to continually apply pressure on Iran, sanctioning them? But magically, they are right about Israel - I doubt it.

Israel has Jewish only settlements which only Jews are allowed to be in, and there are plenty of nuts there. This was called the Al-Aqsa Flood because October 7th was a response to a bunch of radical Jewish settlers taking over the Al-Aqsa mosque. Does our media ever mention that? No, but I know about it. You would too, if we had a media. I have to research this shit.

According to Islamic mythology, Mohammed ascended to heaven from the Al-Aqsa mosque. It's would be like if Jewish people desecrated the tomb of Jesus or something. Israel attacks the ENTIRE religion all the time and eventually the Sunni and Shia will unite in a common resistance. Eventually that will happen, and there's only 10 million Israelis total. Stop beating the hornet's nest. I don't care what kind of weaponry they have, they are a small country and if you really get say 100 million motivated soldiers, they're done. Lots of experienced soldiers in the Middle East, we've been making them for 20 years. Afghanistan too. Logistics would be the problem, getting people from point A to point B.

This current razing of Gaza has, not government's pissed off, but people. Turkish people are pissed, pissed enough to possibly leave NATO and attack Israel. The government doesn't care, they were accepting stolen oil shipments from Syria for quite some time, and that war was very much exacerbated by Israel. Israel bombed the Damascus airport:

https://yandex.com/search/?text=israel+bombs+damascus+airport&lr=102749

The excuse was that they were bombing it to stop importation of weapons from Iran. Was this true? I dunno. Israel has been trying to drag us to go to war with Iran almost my entire life. in April 1984, Jane’s Defense Weekly reported that (supposedly) German intelligence drew the conclusion that Iran was about to get a nuclear weapon "soon". This was during the Iran/Iraq War, no doubt propaganda in order to keep that war going. That's back when Saddam Hussein was our ally.

Every few years "Iran is about to get a nuke" - nope at least not under the current regime. They have declared that nuclear weapons are a sin against God essentially, and refuse to develop them. They are useless anyhow - they can only be used as a deterrent.

And remember, Arab Muslim States whose religion states once an area is taken by the House of Peace, it can NEVER be returned.

Don't have any oil, so they can't compel dozens of countries that have no oil to go along with them.

It's all their superior morality; diplomatic and economic pressure doesn't exist in this one situation unique above all others.

AmericanKulak says

It's all their superior morality; diplomatic and economic pressure doesn't exist in this one situation unique above all others.

Religion is a political tool in Abrahamic religion, this is why we keep breaking down over "moral" bullshit, the people at the top don't consider morality at all, it's geostrategic interests.

Israel causes a lot of headaches and problems for many countries in the Middle East. They were one a pivotal nation to get us to go to war with Iraq. Remember the "yellowcake uranium from Niger"? That came from Israeli intelligence. I'm sure our government knew it was bullshit, but Israel implicated themselves in producing vital propaganda to start that war. We really don't know how many people are dead from that war, but 800,000 seems to be the number that is being settled on.

AmericanKulak says

Ignores rebuttals dozens of times, then claims people ignore his PressTV or Adam Greene links.

I don't link to PressTV and I have no idea who Adam Greene is. Why do you start out of the gate lying? Why do you begin with a lie?

AmericanKulak says

For example, no matter how many times you show him that Hamas was a Muslim Brotherhood group that Israel did NOT "found" but instead supported as a means of dividing Fakestines from Fatah and PFLP (something that EVERY country does to destabilize their enemies), he goes right back to the "Israel started Hamas" line

I don't think I stated ever that Israel founded Hamas, I doubt it because I don't believe that. I have said I doubt Hamas would exist if not for the financial support of Israel. I think it would have disappeared years ago.

Supporting terrorist groups is a profoundly stupid thing to do. The US supported the Mujahideen which became the Taliban, which we spent 20 years and no idea how much money fighting to lose. The US supported "the moderate rebels" of Syria, that's ISIS. The US supported the PKK, those are our "Kurdish friends", they are a communist terrorist group.

Now, was it smart for Israel to support and fund Hamas? They aren't at war with Hamas, they are at war with the Palestinians. Hamas is controlled opposition. Whatever it started out to be, who gives a shit? The people who run Hamas are hanging out in Qatar in luxury. Israel doesn't care about the hostages, they have the Hannibal directive, several hundred are known to have been killed by the IDF.

AmericanKulak says

That's why he's on ignore.

You can put me on ignore. Makes it easier to expose your bullshit.

You don't know how to do original research, you depend on some lying fucking propagandist asshole that works for an organization that lies constantly, you don't vet anything, and you just proclaim it without reference or attribution. Basically you either steal from a "news" site, or you make it up. What did I make up? When did I not produce original sources you can verify, when did I drop attribution?

If you can find an error here:

https://americandissident.substack.com/p/why-i-think-the-united-states-overthrew

Point it out. Is there anything in there you don't think is an established fact? I get tired of you acting like gossiping high school girls. It's profoundly childish. Nobody should listen to you, you're not reliable, and you're not serious.

AmericanKulak says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtMfj36aCk

That's Golda Meir saying she's a Palestinian. I know it would be an impossible task for you to take a minute to find what the area was called in say 1850 or 1600.

Palestine used to be part of the Ottoman Empire. It's like Wisconsin is part of the United States and you insisting Wisconsin never existed. It's a long standing region that has been recognized forever, but not as "a state". You're just splitting hairs, and you know it. This is Frank Luntz stupidity.

I'm an Adirondackinoid.

"There was never a polity called Adirondacs, it's a geographical region. It's never been a country before. In fact, when it was part of the US, all of it was in New York and ruled from the Hudson Valley far beyond that area. We already split 2/3 of that area off for you Algonquin, plus there are several other states with majorities of your actual ethnicity and religion. Leave 1/3 of it for the Iroquois. "

No! This is oppression! Blowing up babies at Sbarros is just resistance to the Adirondackinoid Cause! Anything less than 100% of the Adirondacks for the Algonquin is colonialist settler genoicde!

From mountain to mountain, it's all my fountain!

Eric Holder says

Ah, back to your old 2-step: "You claimed something but where's the link? -- Here's the link, you incompentent, search-challenged fuck! -- But I don't like that link! I want a link which says CIA did something and no other link will do!"

Lol. Accurate. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accurate Trolling admittedly. I've posted links on topics and they're just wrong in Rich's world. And if I post on things that I've personally witnessed, like it happened in real life, I'm wrong. I'm slowly giving up with Rich at this point. He's hung up on this link thing like he's some investigative journalist. Start a site dude. Prove everyone wrong and if you're right you should make shit loads of money. I think you're wrong a majority of the time.

WookieMan says

Lol. Accurate. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accurate Trolling admittedly. I've posted links on topics and they're just wrong. And if I post on things that I'ver personally witnessed, like it happened in real life, I'm wrong. I'm slowing giving up with Rich at this point.

I don't believe you're wrong.

I believe you actively lie. You intentionally, maliciously lie.

You said I've never shown any evidence of the coup by the CIA in Ukraine. I've done this so often, I made a complete explanation, posted it, and you didn't even look at it. You claimed there was no civil war in Ukraine, yes there was. Ukraine is divided in part because of the Holodomor, Kulaks were forced off their land, and Russians were relocated forcibly, so there's a bit of a divide in that nation between two different cultures and when the coup happened, the East didn't accept it, the West did, America supported their new government, Russia supported their old government, it was basically an immediate proxy war, like Vietnam was or North and South Korea.

It's extremely simple. It's easy to ask a Russian what happened, or a Ukrainian, I know a Moldovan, but he knows nothing.

I've been on the Internet since 1989, since before Web Browsers existed. I've been using this tool for more than 1/2 my life. They keep closing off information resources, new ones pop up. Propagandists and liars are a goddamned annoyance though.

Monument to NY 107th Infantry defaced by Paleban, US flag burned.

Egyptian Truck Drivers delivering aid enraged their trucks and fellow drivers are attacked by Palestinians.



"This is a Mossad Fake" - the usual suspects who believe anything off Bitchute.

AmericanKulak says

"This is a Mossad Fake" - the usual suspects who believe anything off Bitchute.

You don't know.

Israel of course uses agent provocateurs just as the US does. Every J6 protestor was a victim of entrapment.

You know about the Lavon Affair, I've talked about it enough. You know that the 40 beheaded babies was false.

Can you use a filter? You seem incapable of this and entirely manipulated by propaganda. How hard would it be to fake that video? What would be the motivation to attack the vehicles? There is none, but you just believe it.

Tired of people for falling for every fucking lie.

AmericanKulak says

Egyptian Truck Drivers delivering aid enraged their trucks and fellow drivers are attacked by Palestinians.



"This is a Mossad Fake" - the usual suspects who believe anything off Bitchute.

Something is missing here. Why would the Palestinians attack someone bringing them aid?

HeadSet says

Something is missing here. Why would the Palestinians attack someone bringing them aid?

Uh oh, @AmericanKulak won't like what you just did. You did some thinking. Don't you know that you're just supposed to accept anything you hear or see that favors the US empire's policy goals without any question or thought? Thinking is tantamount to being a traitor to the country at this point. Truth is treason after all.

Maybe Palestinians did attack these vehicles, but I couldn't guess as to what the motivation would be. I'm impressed they were able to throw rocks through a windscreen as well, they're in good physical condition to be able to do that, or the windscreens are very poor quality. Or maybe it's entirely staged - who knows? We're in a world of constant lies.

Israel doesn't want aid going to Gaza, that's the reason they killed those people at World Central Kitchen. Propaganda is probably better than murder, probably. If this is a propaganda set piece, it creates animosity by framing an innocent population but Israel has done this many many times. Murder is pretty quick, propaganda can create animosity that lasts for generations when both targets of the propaganda (the falsely accused and the target of the "information") are tricked into hating one another.

richwicks says

Maybe Palestinians did attack these vehicles, but I couldn't guess as to what the motivation would be.

They're fucking idiots. I have black friends. Mexican friends. Indian friends. Asian friends. No Muslims or Islamist. Why is that? Am I bigot or an idiot? Nope.

I've tried to not pick a side in this. The evidence is massive that Hamas and Palestinians are shit heads. They've then indoctrinated our population somehow. Especially dip shit college students. Maybe it's Israel behind it all. Does it actually matter if that's the case? Think about it. Again, they're fucking idiots. You decide what side.

WookieMan says

I've tried to not pick a side in this. The evidence is massive that Hamas and Palestinians are shit heads.

They have one of the highest literacy rates in the region. They tend to be surprisingly well educated.

When you put a population under tremendous pressure, this is what happens.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_State_of_Palestine

They don't have any of the DEI bullshit either.

Israel's propaganda is that they are mindless violent animals. What they are doing is projecting. You can see this at how stupid their propaganda is. We have much worse propaganda because somebody is hiring based on ethnic nepotism. I'm not going to go into that much, but there is a reason our government is 100 percent pro Israel.

It's possible that Palestinians attacked, but it makes no sense. Writing them off as stupid, is reckless. It's quite possible a bunch of Arab Israelis attacked it. Israel does this kind of shit all the time. I gave the most famous example of the Lavon Affair. Israel is stupid, they've made enemies with everybody. I don't know why people think this is smart. They are bankrupting the US, they are an integral part in attacking white countries with weaponized immigration. Once they kill us, they are done. Mayorkis is Jewish.

Noticing this stuff will soon be illegal, that will backfire too.

I bet Cuba has a smart population too. They do an amazing job of keeping their country running. Difficult times make strong men..interesting you can see specific examples of it. Ukraine is in a very difficult time, but I think it's so difficult they won't survive, and they have a Jewish president.. He's just a puppet of course. Sometimes I think they are picked because they are more difficult to criticize.

richwicks says

I bet Cuba has a smart population too. They do an amazing job of keeping their country running.

This surely is sarcasm? Right? Do you know a Cuban? You literally have to be fucking joking. You don't get them out there in CA often I assume based on this comment.

Cross 90 miles in open Ocean to get to America. In fucking rafts. That's how much Cubans HATE their country. Willing to risk their lives. Cuba is a shit show. Cubans hate Cuba. Not really a debate unless they're in government. I know multiple Cubans. It's an awful country.

Eric Holder says

Hamas has indicated it is currently unable to identify and track down 40 Israeli hostages needed for the first phase of a ceasefire deal, according to an Israeli official and a source familiar with the discussions, raising fears that more hostages may be dead than are publicly known.

I appreciate you doing some research on this. Now you can examine the other side where Israeli government continually makes excuses for why they won't honor the deals they put out, or simply state they will never stop killing Palestinians. They are right here in this thread. Unless you think Netanyahu is lying..?

Summarizing the Zionist state view..

Amazing explanation of zionist logic in 1 minute 👏👏👏 pic.twitter.com/Wt86MagKPG

— Furkan Gözükara (@GozukaraFurkan) May 5, 2024

Given enough time the fog of war is lifted, and the truth always comes out:

What Really Happened on October 7 by Richard Sanders (Double Down News) - Full HD

"the Kibbutzes we've identified 18 people who
were pretty much certainly killed by the police"

"kill everyone than allow people to be captured" pic.twitter.com/ch4KIRN4B9

— Furkan Gözükara (@GozukaraFurkan) April 11, 2024