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I am all for China flooding the US with Cheap electric cars, and for a great reason.
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2023 Nov 4, 6:58am 3,087 views 52 comments
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HeadSet
2024 Jan 5, 10:15am
HeadSet
2024 Jan 5, 10:15am
UkraineIsFucked says
Correct. Not enough current will be the reason to force the public to about 1/4 of what they drive currently.
Electrical distribution infrastructure has to be expanded at least 4x. Not gonna happen.
Correct. Not enough current will be the reason to force the public to about 1/4 of what they drive currently.
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SunnyvaleCA
2024 Jan 6, 7:03pm
RWSGFY says
We have this here where I live already. It's called "time based use" cost of electricity. I know that my rates are cheaper outside the hours of 4 PM to 9 PM, so if I had an EV I'd program it to charge starting after 9. That seems pretty simple.
Taking this one step further (and I think it already is in some places), we could have an additional step-down in prices between midnight and 4 AM (or whenever).
Now that we're in the 21st century, it should be easy enough to have continuously variable electricity pricing and then I could program my car to optimize the costs. It would be a fun game for computer geeks until someone wakes up ready to commute in the morning to find out their car didn't charge.
Additionally, California has gone pretty far in solar voltaics. Charging from 10 AM until 3 PM (or whenever it is that the panels are making lots of electricity but A/C systems aren't yet working hard) would be a great way to even out the solar surge.
PumpingRedheads says
HeadSet says
If we have a flood of EVs, they will come equipped with electronics that will limit when you can charge, such as Tuesdays between noon and 4 PM.
They don't have that here or anywhere else in the world.
Didn't Swiss passed something along these lines recently?
We have this here where I live already. It's called "time based use" cost of electricity. I know that my rates are cheaper outside the hours of 4 PM to 9 PM, so if I had an EV I'd program it to charge starting after 9. That seems pretty simple.
Taking this one step further (and I think it already is in some places), we could have an additional step-down in prices between midnight and 4 AM (or whenever).
Now that we're in the 21st century, it should be easy enough to have continuously variable electricity pricing and then I could program my car to optimize the costs. It would be a fun game for computer geeks until someone wakes up ready to commute in the morning to find out their car didn't charge.
Additionally, California has gone pretty far in solar voltaics. Charging from 10 AM until 3 PM (or whenever it is that the panels are making lots of electricity but A/C systems aren't yet working hard) would be a great way to even out the solar surge.
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AD
2024 Mar 4, 12:03pm
AD
2024 Mar 4, 12:03pm
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Speaking of EVs and China, I researched that 556,000 Tesla EVs were sold in China in 2022.
Tesla sold a total of 1.3 million EVs in 2022, which the 1.3 million was a 40% increase in 2021 sales.
Just like with Apple, are the Chicoms learning and copying from Tesla so eventually Tesla is no more a noticeable presence in China just like Apple ?
Tesla stock is at 189 compared to all time high in 2021 at 407, and 2023 low of 113 set in January.
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Speaking of EVs and China, I researched that 556,000 Tesla EVs were sold in China in 2022.
Tesla sold a total of 1.3 million EVs in 2022, which the 1.3 million was a 40% increase in 2021 sales.
Just like with Apple, are the Chicoms learning and copying from Tesla so eventually Tesla is no more a noticeable presence in China just like Apple ?
Tesla stock is at 189 compared to all time high in 2021 at 407, and 2023 low of 113 set in January.
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People seem to think or envision a future where a charging station is in front of every parking space. That will never be the case.
Next issue is the fires that are going to burn out of control, at work, at home, in the garage, there will be carnage. Especially with cheap Chinese battery operated devices. I don't expect EVs to be any different, than the fires caused by those hoverboards, that were a fad 5 years back. Now you never ever see them, they were a menace.
At least the price is right for a failed experiment, people wont be getting tax dollars to piss away on a Fait accompli.
I give it another 5 years, and EVs will be an embarrassing footnote to History.
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2023/11/03/auto-industry-analyst-china-is-the-ev-godzilla-poised-to-smash-everything-in-its-path/
How ever if it's a success and everything Im saying turns out to be nonissues. Then at least these dumped Chinese EVs will end the subsidies, and elitist status symbol that Tesla and other US EV models has become. They will be forced to make EVs that people can buy without a check from the government.