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AND THAT doesn't even take into consideration what's needed to power the damn things...AT SCALE. This is what Wookie is getting into
[EVs are] literally the least efficient, most polluting means of travel.
If we had infinite fusion power we could use hydrogen as energy storage because we could create it from electrolysis of water. Although electrolysis is an even less efficient starting point, if you you have unlimited fusion energy, go for it! But even then, the system would be much more expensive than just synthesizing methane and re-introducing the Honda Civic GX — a viable ICE car that you filled up at home from natural gas.
Toyota Murai
SunnyvaleCA says
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I've been stuck behind those (or maybe the same guy) in stop and go traffic on my daily commute in SD. It shoots what looks like a urine stream out the back of the car and when we got lucky enough to reach maybe 40mph it would bounce off of the pavement and hit my windshield. I hate getting behind those things.
SunnyvaleCA says
Toyota Murai
I've been stuck behind those (or maybe the same guy) in stop and go traffic on my daily commute in SD. It shoots what looks like a urine stream out the back of the car and when we got lucky enough to reach maybe 40mph it would bounce off of the pavement and hit my windshield. I hate getting behind those things.
It will take 25 years to beef up our energy grid, power plants (hopefully new nuke plants) and additional mining/processing to meet total demand. But if we can build the Empire State Building in under 2 years 100 years ago, I am confident we can still build great things in this country if we aren't retarded.
The mining is wasteful for sure. We have an entire system in place for ICE vehicles. The future is hybrid.
We're talking about costs here. They're going up.
It will take 25 years to beef up our energy grid, power plants (hopefully new nuke plants) and additional mining/processing to meet total demand
But if we can build the Empire State Building in under 2 years 100 years ago
We can reuse what we mine over and over again, as opposed to burning oil once.
We have an entire electric grid already in place for EV's.
Hybrids have tremendous complexity, costs and more to go wrong having ICE engines, electric motors, batteries and transmissions just to get an extra 50-100 miles of range. Hybrids are tremendously lame.
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By Olivia Murray
In October, I wrote an essay on a “bombshell report” from a Texas think tank “which revealed that the actual cost of rechargeable cars and the E.V. industry is, in reality, much higher than they’re leading us to believe.”
The report is around 20-pages long, so I was only able to cover one of the explosive revelations—the average battery-powered car (E.V.) would cost “approximately $48,698 more to own over a 10-year period” were it not for the “staggering” handouts from the taxpayer via an extortionary and feckless government—but there were more.
Now, not only were the energy experts able to quantify the additional cost over time, but they were also able to put a dollar amount on the real cost of charging the vehicle, translated into price per gallon of gasoline. As you might guess, the price is astronomical, but that’s not the the end of it.
While EV advocates claim charging costs are equivalent to $1.21-per-gallon gasoline, the real amount is an order of magnitude more.
Including the charging equipment, subsidies from governments and utilities and other frequently excluded expenses, the true cost of charging an EV is equivalent to $17.33-per-gallon gasoline — but the EV owner pays less than 7% of that.
So if the E.V. owner pays less than 7% of that massively inflated cost to “fuel” a car, that means more than 93% of the financial burden falls on the taxpayer—as the NY Post authors also write:
This is socialism for the rich: a transfer of costs from higher net-worth individuals to middle- and lower-income taxpayers.
It’s the equivalent of levying taxes and fees on public-transportation users and those who walk or bicycle to work and using the money to reduce the price of gasoline.
At this stage, E.V.s, if forced to stand on their own, are an utter failure, and as I noted in my previous blog, bad ideas and inferior products only find security in a “free” market… rigorously controlled by big government fascists. If our market were truly free, an extremely expensive car that can spontaneously combust, only works in a limited temperature range, occasionally malfunctions and locks occupants inside before rolling backwards into bodies of water, and costs $17.33 per “gallon” to “fuel” up, would be dead on arrival—as it should be.