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Maybe Trump also relied on Epstein (not for 16 year old female massages) for not only free use of Epstein's plane but also to get Epstein to promote Trumps resorts to his "clients" , especially since Trump was his friend in the 1990's bankruptcy period to until the Apprentice TV show

Passengers likely paid for "fuel." Unless Epstein had a charter. If it's private he can only charge "fuel." I don't think anyone understands the coverup. And I'm being dead serious when I say FBI is too dumb or is covering it up themselves. I actually think the FBI is dumb.

I'm talking more about the island. It was a brilliant setup. Fine you landed in St. Thomas. From there no one can track you. Passport isn't needed. "Fuel"/minors were paid for. I'm not worth $100M-$1B+ but I'm not staying overnight in one of his casita. I'm getting a house. I now have an alibi. I don't think it was blackmail. I think it was just old rich dudes wanting to fuck younger women. Only evidence is a private jet to St. Thomas. Bring a burner phone and turn your main phone off. There's no evidence. That's why I don't think the FBI will produce anything.

We tend to think the FBI, CIA, etc. are ultra smart. They're just like you and I. They tend to think inside the box. They maybe sent 20 agents to the island. The idea that all the acts happened on the island are false also. If I had $100M I'm taking them to my house I rented. Pick them up at Red Hook or Cruz Bay on St. John. Little St. James is a holding pen for them.

I get the frustration. I just don't think a damn thing is going to happen. Also legal agreements and NDO's have probably happened already with victims. Maxwell will talk but it will only be about trafficking, not about sex acts with minors.

https://rudy.substack.com/p/dont-ignore-the-anomalies

“By the Government’s admission, “over one thousand victims” suffered from Epstein’s and Maxwell’s actions. To date, however, the combined forces of our country’s law enforcement agencies have only ever arrested these two individuals in connection with crimes committed against countless young women and girls, and the Government’s recent suggestion that no further criminal investigations are forthcoming is a cowardly abdication of its duties to protect and serve.”

- On behalf of Annie Farmer, survivor of Epstein’s and Maxwell’s crimes who testified at Maxwell’s trial

https://nationalenquirer.com/more-than-two-dozen-people-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein-have-died-under-mysterious-circumstances/

Jeffrey Epstein’s mysterious death occurred six years ago this month — but the National Enquirer has discovered 22 people in the sketchy billionaire’s orbit have also died under murky circumstances, fueling fears of a cover-up by powerful figures seeking to erase potential witnesses.

From the predator’s alleged victims to house managers, lawyers, accountants, investigative journalists and pimps, the list of unexplained fatalities traces a dark money trail that leads straight to Epstein’s inner circle, sources say.

“There were a lot of people entrapped and entangled through Epstein’s web, and many of those people are gone now — dead,” private investigator Ed Opperman tells the Enquirer. “They are all connected through a money trail.”

Financier Steven Hoffenberg confessed in a final account before his death to the Enquirer’s Doug Montero that Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, the convicted pedophile’s now-imprisoned recruiting madam, were “taping” honey-trap videos of sleazy VIPs with underage girls for a cabal of deep-state blackmailing power brokers. ...

Hoffenberg, the former Towers Financial CEO and Epstein associate — who died in 2022 at 77 after serving 18 years for a $475 million Ponzi scheme — cooperated with the FBI and spoke out about his former protégé’s alleged connections to Israel’s national intelligence agency Mossad.

Funny that now we have to look at the Enquirer to find details that the NY Times is suppressing.

Patrick says

Financier Steven Hoffenberg confessed in a final account before his death to the Enquirer’s Doug Montero that Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, the convicted pedophile’s now-imprisoned recruiting madam, were “taping” honey-trap videos of sleazy VIPs with underage girls for a cabal of deep-state blackmailing power brokers. ...

Hoffenberg, the former Towers Financial CEO and Epstein associate — who died in 2022 at 77 after serving 18 years for a $475 million Ponzi scheme — cooperated with the FBI and spoke out about his former protégé’s alleged connections to Israel’s national intelligence agency Mossad.

Funny that now we have to look at the Enquirer to find details that the NY Times is suppressing.

NY Times is that ideologically compromised to the point its owners and editors think antisemitism is the reason why Harvey Weinstein was charged and convicted.

I don't doubt Epstein-linked money funded Mossad shell companies, which funded various ventures like paying off Iranian informants, conducting clandestine operations, and maybe financing the posh retirements of countless Mossad operatives as well as Ehud Barak.

And easy for Mossad to do the damage control or cleaning, as far as anyone who was a threat to exposing Epstein's operation.

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I don't doubt Epstein-linked money funded Mossad shell companies, which funded various ventures like paying off Iranian informants, conducting clandestine operations, and maybe financing the posh retirements of countless Mossad operatives as well as Ehud Barak.

Ehud Barak IS a Mossad operative. He is the former head of the Mossad and a former Prime Minister of Israel. He also is on record of having not only visiting Epstein numerous times, but staying at a variety of Epstein properties.

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And roll out a red carpet for a pedophile.

In this thread you can see the major difference between left and right. The left is a cult and would never criticize it's side.

I agree.

The right is not so opposed to any self-criticism, while the left has a very narrow orthodoxy and ostracizes anyone even slightly outside it, or anyone who so much as talks to anyone even slightly outside it.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2021-7-25-the-left-allows-no-deviation-from-orthodoxy

[In 2019] I attended a rather tony political summit — perhaps the only real ritzy cocktail party I’ve ever gone to. One of the other attendees happened to be one of the more prominent left-wing podcasters in the country. After a few pleasantries, I suggested that perhaps we ought to do an election-year crossover podcast. “The numbers,” I said, “would be extraordinary. And I know my audience would love it. We’re always having on guests who disagree.” “I’m sure your audience would be cool with it,” the podcaster answered. “But mine would murder me.”

https://thevirginiastar.com/news/doj-promises-release-of-some-epstein-records-this-week/tcsquare/2025/08/19/

DOJ Promises Release of Some Epstein Records This Week

Earlier this month, House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., issued subpoenas to multiple high-profile Democrats – including the Clintons and former U.S. attorney generals – as well as the DOJ, which was supposed to produce Epstein-related records by Tuesday. The DOJ informed Comer that it will begin providing the records by Friday.

"Some" records, meaning nothing that can be used to prosecute any big campaign donor and nothing that makes Israel look bad.

https://nomusica.com/venezuela-offers-50-million-for-epstein-files-in-response-to-trumps-bounty-on-maduro/



OK, I think it's false, but it's funny anyway.

RayAmerica says

AD says
I don't doubt Epstein-linked money funded Mossad shell companies, which funded various ventures like paying off Iranian informants, conducting clandestine operations, and maybe financing the posh retirements of countless Mossad operatives as well as Ehud Barak.

Ehud Barak IS a Mossad operative. He is the former head of the Mossad and a former Prime Minister of Israel. He also is on record of having not only visiting Epstein numerous times, but staying at a variety of Epstein properties.

That is the MAIN REASON why the Epstein files are sealed. If the Establishment and Deep State could damage Trump with them, then Biden admin would have released them.

Epstein was the financial life blood for Mossad shell companies such as pass on "insider trading information" from his "clients" to the owners or fiduciaries of these Mossad shell companies.

It funded Mossad operations such as paying off Iranian informants and conducting Mossad assassinations.

It also funded the very comfortable lifestyle and retirement for the Mossad community including Ehud Barak.

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Right, I think Trump personally is not guilty of statutory rape, but instead that many of his biggest campaign donors are.

So he decided to give them all a free pass to protect them and protect Mossad. That is the opposite of justice.

Should be in Sun Tzu: Never confront psychopaths directly, humor them, but arrange for them to generate the conditions of their own self destruction. Gnosis and tweaking, not confrontation. Let them suffer the spring loaded consequences of their karma boomerang patiently.

Not releasing the Epstein files is unfortunately not directly confronting the psychopaths. There is no current instant gratification from stretched necks. They are being exposed more and more, there aren't many places they can hide, and the auto immune reactions of the species will get them in due time especially in the information age. Patience, crickets.

Patrick says

So he decided to give them all a free pass to protect them and protect Mossad. That is the opposite of justice.

The only evidence so far that Epstein worked for Mossad is wearing an IDF shirt years ago.

This is what I mean that so many claims has been repeated countless times that they are taken as Gospel but the evidence underlying them is weak.

Dersh, who was Epstein's lawyer, and DID see things we did not in the Court Case, explains:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBYlYN5iZ_A

He does agree that there are persons who were with Epstein who did do things - with adult age mistresses and so forth - that don't want a general doc dump because it will embarrass them "Coldplay & Astronaut CEO" style. They took side pieces to the Island and don't want it getting out. Not least because they'll lose tens of millions in a divorce.

"Thank you for your donation - that helped me beat Hillary and Biden to MAGA in the White House. As a reward, I want to include you were at Epstein Island with your Secretary, 24, and maybe your Gay Chauffeur, 31. Sorry Mr. Shekelburg, that Ms. Shekelburg will see this on TV and file and you can kiss your Hamptons Mansion goodbye! I do hope you'll donate very strongly to the Vance/Rubio 2028 ticket!"

PanicanDemoralizer says

The only evidence so far that Epstein worked for Mossad is wearing an IDF shirt years ago.

Ghislaine's father worked for Mossad, and frequent visitor Ehud Barak worked for Mossad.

And there is that guy Ari Ben-Menashe who claims himself to have been a Mossad agent, and says the Epstein operation was for Mossad:


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And Epstein himself supposedly boasted of being an agent for Mossad:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13567735/jeffrey-epstein-mossad-agent-ghislaine-maxwell-ex-girlfriend-claims.html

The Iranians quote Greenwald on the issue:

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/07/21/751590/Inside-the-epstein-saga-untangling-his-ties-to-Israeli-spy-agency-us-presidents

Greenwald presents five key points to support his inquiry:

“1) One of Epstein’s closest friends was former Israeli PM Ehud Barak; 2) A key source of Epstein’s vast wealth, though mysterious, was from Les Wexner, whose primary life cause is Israel; 3) Ghislaine Maxwell’s father - the billionaire Robert Maxwell -- was a Mossad agent who mysteriously died after that was reported.

“Though Maxwell was British, Israel gave him a state funeral when he died; 4) Epstein got the red carpet treatment when visiting Israel; 5) Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech. ... But fine, if Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence or any other intel service - which is theoretically possible - why can’t Pam Bondi, CIA and FBI say that?”

But the really compelling evidence is the 180 by Trump about releasing the Epstein files and videos. That was the strangest thing I ever saw Trump do, and it reeks of coverup on behalf of Israel.

Yup!

Patrick says

But the really compelling evidence is the 180 by Trump about releasing the Epstein files and videos. That was the strangest thing I ever saw Trump do, and it reeks of coverup on behalf of Israel.

It couldn't be that Trump donors and friends would be named in such documents?

The LEAST amount of censorship would send the critics wild with rage, too. Even if the uncensored part said "BLANK brought his 25-year old Secretary with him and were on video having sexual relations", the conspiracy sphere would be like WHO WHO MOSSAD SPY!

And if Trump or Patel or Bongino or anybody gave assurances under oath the people censored committed no crime, it wouldn't fly either.

Great trap by the Dems and Qatar

The Epstein files are a massive redrawn cluster fuck. You really think they would leave those lying around without booby trapping them? Burn bags that weren't burned, LOL! Mysterious cache found in the Southern District? Right.

Trying to dissect any truth from fiction in them will be impossible, as is the nature of really, really good disinformation.

I remember when the FBI were poring over Epstein Island after the fact for 'evidence'. I said at the time they were only there as is their custom to cover up and/or to destroy evidence, or preserve particulars to continue using the blackmail contents. After this expiration of time, nothing can be trusted, and anything there is forensically useless except as programmed slander.

And Epstein himself supposedly boasted of being an agent for Mossad:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13567735/jeffrey-epstein-mossad-agent-ghislaine-maxwell-ex-girlfriend-claims.html

So we got a picture of an IDF T-Shirt (the equivalent of the US Army, not the CIA like Mossad is), and a claim that somebody said that Epstein said he was Mossad, by ... Glenn Greenwald the Gay Tour Investor.

https://www.justsecurity.org/119137/timeline-jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell/

Timeline of Jeffrey Epstein-Ghislaine Maxwell Law Enforcement Failures (1996-2025)
By Ryan Goodman, Siven Watt and Joshua Kolb

Published on August 18, 2025

The Timeline below examines decades-long failures by federal law enforcement and oversight agencies—including the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the Department of the Treasury—in the handling of Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes: child sexual abuse and the sex trafficking of minors, as well as the sexual abuse of young adult women. These failures span Democratic and Republican administrations, and transcend party. They have taken place in the context of extreme wealth and influence which, together with gendered power dynamics and socioeconomic vulnerability, have shaped government inaction. Public officials—through neglect, minimization, or deliberate manipulation—blunted scrutiny, weakened victim protections, and enabled continued exploitation and abuse. While much of this “tale of national disgrace,” as the Eleventh Circuit en banc court put it, centers on powerful men, Ghislaine Maxwell’s role shows that direct complicity also crossed gender lines. ...

Congressional handling of the Epstein file and Maxwell imprisonment in 2025
(a) In July, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) took the rare step of recessing the House early for the summer, in order to avoid holding votes related to releasing the Epstein files. Speaker Johnson said he wanted to give the Trump Administration “space” to disclose information related to Epstein on its own, without Congressional action; to date, the White House (and DOJ) has revealed no new information since the House recessed. The discharge petition, which would force a House vote on whether DOJ must release information contained in the Epstein files, is “set to trigger a vote within days of the House’s return in September.”

(b) Speaker Johnson criticized the bipartisan discharge petition. Speaker Johnson called it “reckless” and said: “I agree with President Trump, with the Department of Justice, with the FBI that you need all credible evidence and information out there,” Johnson said. “That word ‘credible’ is important. And why? Because you have to protect innocent people’s names and reputations whose names might be, as you noted at the outset of the program, intertwined into all these files.”

(c) On August 11, the House Oversight Committee issued eleven subpoenas related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. The Committee, chaired by Rep. James Comer (R-KY), issued deposition subpoenas for former Attorneys General and FBI Directors; and a document subpoena to DOJ for information related to Epstein. The first subpoena is due Monday, August 18. However, it failed to subpoena some of the most relevant and important individuals involved in the federal investigation of Epstein and Maxwell, including: Alex Acosta, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida during the office’s Epstein investigation between 2006-07;Marie Villafaña, the lead prosecutor in the SDFL office handling the Epstein investigation; Geoffrey Berman, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York when Epstein was indicted in 2019; and Audrey Strauss, the deputy U.S. Attorney in SDNY under Berman and Acting U.S. Attorney when Ghislaine Maxwell was charged.

(d) On July 29, Senate Democrats sent a letter to Attorney General Bondi demanding “the full and complete Epstein files” no later than August 15, pursuant to 5 U.S.C §2954, which requires “[a]n executive agency, on request of … any five members” of the Committee on Governmental Affairs of the Senate, to “submit any information requested of it relating to any matter within the jurisdiction of the committee.” DOJ ignored this request, and on August 15, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) accused the Trump Administration of “breaking the law” and threatened to sue.

More grist for the rumor mills. Epstein was always protected. They might kill him after debriefings, or if he couldn't maintain his cover, but as a high up Intel officer, they would have protected and exfiltrated him.

It's a pay per view click bait site, so make of it what you will.

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/truther/i-found-jeffrey-epstein-alive-well

Grok:

Does the last photo of Epstein before his arrest show him wearing an IDF shirt?

Yes, a newly surfaced photograph published by The Telegraph on August 8, 2025, shows Jeffrey Epstein wearing an Israel Defense Forces (IDF) sweatshirt aboard his private jet in 2019. The image, provided by Epstein’s former butler Valdson Vieira Cotrin, is described as one of the last taken of Epstein before his arrest on July 6, 2019. The photo has sparked speculation about Epstein’s connections, particularly with Israeli intelligence, though no verified evidence supports such claims.

Seems like he just wanted to rub it in. That would fit with his personality. He seemed to like to fuck with people by putting the truth out there right in front of them, just for shits and giggles, as they say:

Jeffrey Epstein's mansion contained several artworks with eyeballs:
Prosthetic eyeballs. There were 150 of them mounted on a wall in the entrance hall. Epstein warned guests and staff that they were "being watched at all times".

Like the IDF shirt, again telling people the truth and enjoying that they were too stupid to see it even when he pushed it in their faces.

And he had a painting of Bush Jr. throwing paper airplanes at crashed Jenga towers, telling everyone: "We know you did it." Just to fuck with him.

He also bought fake art for his mansions when he could afford the real thing, just so that he could laugh at how impressed his guests were with the big-name "art". Changing it up a little, telling a lie when they all expected the truth.

Fucking underage girls was exactly the same psychology of "I can do literally anything I want to you or your children because I'm smarter than you."

Patrick says

Fucking underage girls was exactly the same psychology of "I can do literally anything I want to you or your children because I'm smarter than you."

Is there any proof of this, with girls under 16 (age of consent)? Or are there just "sex tapes"?

Patrick says

Seems like he just wanted to rub it in. That would fit with his personality. He seemed to like to fuck with people by putting the truth out there right in front of them, just for shits and giggles, as they say:

I'm sure the Mossad loves that.

Calling it now: Any and all evidence or testimony that he WASNT working for Intelligence will be rejected, regardless.



Ima go ahead and say Epstein was trying to get his network of mostly celebrities, lesser royalty, and a handful of politicians interested in his mentor's financial investments. He may very well have given some info to intel agencies, but my money is that he was not an agent and his lifestyle/operations were NOT underwritten by intelligence. The documents are being redacted to protect those who committed no crime; these redactions will be hailed as PROOF that the government is covering up the role of intel agencies, domestic or foreign.

Same deal with JFK. KGB, Cuban Exiles, LBJ associates, and Mafia mentioned 1000s of times in 10k's of pages of memos, reports, etc. tied into all the major players in and around the Assassination, but some will reject all of these as the culprits.

Ghislaine: Epstein didn't kill himself

🔹 Maxwell denies the charges that she solicited women for Epstein. Rather, these millions Epstein paid were for business reasons.
🔹Maxwell says she did NOT see underage girls involved or anything "non-consensual" or anything improper.
🔹Maxwell says there has never been a list. No blackmail and explicitly calls any rumor of intelligence agency ties "bullshit."

Other details:
🔹Epstein managed the money of Elizabeth Johnson (J&J heir) in the 90s
🔹Epstein had a business relationship with Jes Stanley (former CEO of Barclays)
🔹Epstein helped Lynn de Rothschild financially (although Maxwell says Rothschild will deny it).
🔹Epstein and Andrés Pastrana (Colombia president) traveled together to Colombia and met with Castro in Cuba.
🔹Larry Summer was a personal friend of Epstein.
🔹Maxwell thinks she met Alex Soros at an event but doesn't remember the exact context.
🔹Sergey Brin held a birthday party, possibly with Epstein (I can't tell from transcript), and Elon Musk was present.
🔹Bobby Kennedy knew Epstein, she learned that on a dinosaur bone hunting trip (of all things)...
🔹Maxwell says Trump seemed friendly with Epstein, but explicitly says she never saw anything improper.
🔹Epstein for some reason loved inviting scientists like Stephen Jay Gould for dinner and talking science with them.
https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1958991490480590909

FULL TRANSCRIPT OF DOJ INTERVIEW:
https://www.justice.gov/maxwell-interview

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Here's one: He was becoming a distraction and annoyance after getting a handy from a masseuse, and several civil suits, they were afraid he'd turn on them and reveal hidden trusts, shady deals, etc. so they whacked him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-justice-department-releases-transcript-ghislaine-maxwell-rcna226675

Justice Department releases transcript of Ghislaine Maxwell interview

Maxwell insists she never witnessed Trump do anything inappropriate. She also told Blanche she does “not believe” Epstein died by suicide.

Prodded further about a client list, Maxwell said: "Absolutely no. There is no list. There is no, I’m not aware of any blackmail. I never heard that. I never saw it, and I never imagined it," Maxwell said. ...

The prosecutors and judge involved in Maxwell's 2021 criminal trial blasted her for being dishonest and failing to accept responsibility for her actions.

“The defendant’s willingness to brazenly lie under oath about her conduct, including some of the conduct charged in the Indictment, strongly suggests her true motive has been and remains to avoid being held accountable for her crimes,” prosecutors wrote in one pretrial motion.

She's got huge motives to lie and nothing to lose by lying. She's already in prison, so she might be hoping for a pardon, and she doesn't want to end up dead like Jeff either.