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Patrick says

Doesn't prove anything, because Epstein and Ghislaine were at all such events for many years.

And the kids there could be his grandchildren.

I don't even care anymore. No one is getting arrested. You need a video and witness testimony. Not happening. At least on Little St. James. His NYC stuff is a little harder to cover up, but that was before rampant public cameras and 2 decades ago. Hence why he got an island.

They could easily exit the boat directly into a cart with tinted windows. Or do it at night. So even a top notch camera isn't gonna do you good if investigating from the water. There's no high water line beach because he had big stones installed. So you can't beach a boat and it would be trespassing. Even after his death there were armed guards on the dock that I witnessed myself.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

https://www.kunstler.com/p/the-glow-of-the-gaslight

Notice that you haven’t heard a whole lot for two weeks from AG Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel. They have had their hands full attempting to clean up big messes in the Southern District of NY’s DOJ office and its companion, the Manhattan FBI office, where many lawyers and agents have been fired in recent days. Among other things, the FBI office in New York supposedly sat on reams of evidence in the Jeffrey Epstein case. Much flappery has been made over that. But, considering Mr. Epstein’s service to the Intel blob, and its political servants especially, is it really plausible that any truly significant evidence remains?

The FBI raided Epstein”s Manhattan townhouse in July, 2019. They found CDs and hard drives galore and lots of photos of underage girls. None of the videos ever managed to leak out. Do you find that suspicious, considering how sensationally incriminating they would have been? Would you guess that is because they were destroyed? Personally, I wouldn’t expect much now.

But I do expect Ms. Bondi and Mr. Patel to develop a great many cases out of the aforesaid far-ranging corruption — overlooked by all those Inspectors General — that occurred throughout government at least since 2016, and probably involving a whole lot of well-know names, including Presidents Obama and Biden. It takes a lot of time and care to construct cases worth bringing to grand juries. Also consider that Dan Bongino will not take up his duties as FBI Deputy Director until March 15. As it happens, Mr. Bongino wrote several books about RussiaGate and its spin-offs. He will have a pretty good idea of exactly where to look and who to talk to, and he will be in-charge of making that happen. Be patient.

Huh, Kunstler is an optimist. I'm not sure anyone ever said that before.

No shit, Sherlock. I beginning to think it is more important to expose the powers that hold the Epstein file back than the Epstein files themselves.

https://t.me/tribunalsandexecutions/506215

Uh, huh.

Right, another bullshit announcement announcing an announcement. But no action.

https://patrick.net/post/1383932/2025-03-11-i-no-longer-want-to-read-any-news

Patrick says

Right, another bullshit announcement announcing an announcement. But no action.

Bingo. There can't be action. Not rehashing it. There is no there there.

It's the Zen Epstein Files: "We will release all of the files, and none of the files."

WookieMan says

"I don't even care anymore. No one is getting arrested."

Once the list is released and there is evidence of a crime, these people will be
arrested and prosecuted.

The_Deplorable says

Once the list is released and there is evidence of a crime, these people will be
arrested and prosecuted.

What crack pipe are you smoking?

Ceffer says

No shit, Sherlock. I beginning to think it is more important to expose the powers that hold the Epstein file back than the Epstein files themselves.

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1899349344761135367

https://markbisone.substack.com/p/the-shock-market-crash

Epstein Island. A joint Israeli-Anglo honeypot that used underaged girls to gain leverage over politicians, scientists, artists, reporters, aristocrats, bureaucrats, business leaders, financiers, and probably your Great Uncle Tony. Epstein Island and similar operations constitute the central geopolitical truth of our age, hiding in plain sight. It’s the secret history of the 20th century, leaking its viscous sludge into the 21st. Maxwell-Epstein and similar leverage operations provide a backbone of influence global cabal, which then invades and corrupts every single institutionalized authority and power structure. This isn’t an ugly rumor, an urban myth, or a conspiracy theory. It is simply what happened. And, absent a boatload of arrests, convictions, executions, and mysterious “accidents”, it’s what is still happening, to this day

And now the TDS smear machine is taking advantage of the fact that the government announced the list was released but was actually bullshit.

Bondi fucked up.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

Such a tape does not exist. Repeat: Such a tape does not exist because if the
Globalist Nazis had such a tape, the tape would have been released nine years ago.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

The_Deplorable says

Once the list is released and there is evidence of a crime, these people will be
arrested and prosecuted.

What crack pipe are you smoking?

Not trying to be personal Deplorable, but what is a list going to do? You clearly haven't read my other comments on this. Nothing is going to happen. ANYONE that "reports" something will be sued immediately for libel or slander. If rumors are "true" these people have more powerful lawyers. No video or witness and it's a waste of time.

This has been going on over a decade at this point. Epstein got caught in NYC. He then figured out a better plan and as sick as it is, no clients will ever get arrested. They have culpable deniability. Look at aerial images or satellite images all you want, the island is tiny and there weren't enough structure to host big underage orgies. He just kept the girls and boys their and dumped them in the Caribbean when their age/looks expired.

The victims are all in bags filled with concrete 100' plus in the Caribbean. They'd rent houses and hotels on St. Thomas and bring the kiddos over. "I never went to the island, I was at the Ritz" or some house/condo with receipts. It's American water so boating is the way it went down. No passports. No documentation. I'm not talking a cruise either. Until you spend 7-10 days there you'd understand exactly how it went down. No one will get prosecuted.

Patrick says

Blocking the "list" is the structure of how it was done. Has nothing to do with any of those in the meme. One guy or Maxwell figured this out. A lot of you guys are programmers or engineers. Reverse engineer the scheme.

Private islands in the US or territory allow high water line access. There's a beach, but legally he put rocks in so it's not a "beach." Think of it as a gate. You can boat in or people out and don't have to report it. Don't have to clear customs as a US territory. When you land you just walk out to a car hop on a boat.

It's absolutely sick if true, but it was a brilliant plan if you're into that type of stuff. No one is going to jail beside the two that already went. They got caught trafficking. Maxwell would be dead by now. This ship has sailed.

Patrick says

Lol, one of my readers on Substack called this "the block chain".

WookieMan says

No one is going to jail beside the two that already went.

Two? I thought only Ghislaine went to jail.

Patrick says

Two? I thought only Ghislaine went to jail.

Two went into jail - one "hanged himself" and the other is "thinking about hanging herself."

stereotomy says

Patrick says
Two? I thought only Ghislaine went to jail.

Two went into jail - one "hanged himself" and the other is "thinking about hanging herself."

Nobody went to jail. They were spirited away Intel style for extended archiving and debriefing after the fact with fake trial and fake proxy body doubles playing their trial (or corpse) roles.

They may eventually or already have been killed, but in a private ceremony after their utility is all used up but their danger to to a big reveal or deathbed confession are not.

Some of the Woo'sters think that Jeffrey might eventually make a re-appearance as an actual witness in proceedings, but that one gives me a pain in my Overton window.

This demonstrates the value of becoming the new 'owner' of the Epstein blackmail files. Schumer would never have done this if the collective terror of the Congress maggots weren't undergoing a major blackmail intimidation.
It's easy to see that the current series of 'delays' are about the Epstein files being kept at bay as a bargaining or negotiating tool for the administration. It's final fate hasn't been negotiated yet.

Of course, Trump et alia could use it for negotiation concessions and then release them anyway to fuck them. Trump has enough knives in his back to justify their own tactics against them.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/120349

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-jfk-et-al

the epstein issue is even more confusing. i still have zero definitive idea about what they were going for with the “release of 1000’s of fully redacted pages.” it was bizarre and not in keeping with the big claims and surely they knew it would be a flop.

i wonder (and get your tinfoil on, were going rabbit holing) if that was sort of the point. perhaps the audience was not us, but the ones on the lists and who made the lists. perhaps the goal was not to name and shame them, but to show them just how extensive the catalogues are and give them a nice big scare not only about “release day” but about what might be released later.

it’s proof of kompromat, validateable really only by those with unredacted copies of the docs, a sort of one time pad code shared in public with factions of the deep state.

there was really no one else who could have read that message.

given his ties, past exonerations of great suspiciousness, and his truly implausible “was suicided” denouement, the idea of epstien as a blackmail op tied to intelligence agencies of who knows what nations looks like a reasonable bet, especially given ghislaine and her family ties to mossad.

i think the trump gang realized how deep the national security, intelligence community, and foreign intelligence community tentacles reached down into this mess of kompromat on powerful people and are chickening out or getting muscled hard by agencies that have massive influence and do not want their names (or their lists of agents/puppets) dragged into this.

perhaps this was how they pushed back and showed that they too know how to play this game.

assuming this is so (and again, this is supposition not fact) it would actually create quite an interesting set of incentives as it sets up a sort of mutually assured destruction scenario and oddly, MAD systems can be highly stable, even productive.

on one side you have the intel community that does NOT want its role in pedo honeypots exposed, the size of the op, the profile of the people, and the mass destruction of carefully created and cultivated networks.

on the other, you have the MAGA/DOGE gang who could expose them.

but if they do, they can only do it once. you ring that bell, it cannot be unrung. it’s a single use weapon as once deployed, the IC no longer has any incentive not to go to full war on you and that would get supremely ugly.

so you get a sort of uneasy détente where the IC agrees not to play against trump or get in the way of DOGE and agrees to some cuts and step-backs and trump agrees not to ring the bell, a sort of set of mutual exclusion zones and freedoms to operate.

this information may be more useful withheld than released.

this would obviously be disappointing in some ways and useful in others. it’s just the grotesquerie of politics and unfortunately inevitable once you allow states to become this powerful.

Patrick says

i think the trump gang realized how deep the national security, intelligence community, and foreign intelligence community tentacles reached down into this mess of kompromat on powerful people and are chickening out or getting muscled hard by agencies that have massive influence and do not want their names (or their lists of agents/puppets) dragged into this.

I tend to believe this. The Trump team wasn't prepared to find out that everyone is compromised. Maybe they thought it was at most 50%.

Nobody gets further than local politics without being compromised, be it bribery or pedo sex.

stereotomy says

I tend to believe this. The Trump team wasn't prepared to find out that everyone is compromised. Maybe they thought it was at most 50%.

There's no proof of anything. That's the problem. I've flown in to St. Thomas a dozen times. Does that mean I visited his island and fucked underage girls? Nope. I don't get why or where people think this witch hunt is gonna go. No where is the answer.

I'm making my final ruling on Epsteingate and Pazzagate: it is all bullshit and anyone who still believes in it is a gullible moron and probably eats soap in public restrooms.

Can we quote you later?

RWSGFY says

I'm making my final ruling on Epsteingate and Pazzagate: it is all bullshit and anyone who still believes in it is a gullible moron and probably eats soap in public restrooms.

How dare you. I bet you never even tried the soap in the public restrooms.

It's the panic at the fear of exposure that the hapless DC deep state lower-level employees exhibit when for example James O'Keefe confronts them with incriminating hidden camera footage that convinces me. These clowns are small fry, and they're in neck deep with malfeasance and most likely criminal activity. Imagine what the higher ups have to hide?

It's like that Buffy spin-off Angel, where they would ominously talk about the "Senior Partners." Those at the top are stained from head to toe with the blood of countless innocents.